When do you start to lose the llbs with weights?

HeidiHoMom

if you want to lose weight you're better off doing more cardio. weights help to tone up, but it's better to lose the excess fat first before you try to tone up. also, measuring yourself is a lot better than weighing as muscle weighs more than fat so you may think you've put on weight when you probably haven't.

so much wrong here....

ninerbuff

Someone said "Carbohydrates have nothing to do with body fat."....

Body fat is impossibly simple:

(1) When you ingest carbohydrates,

(2) It makes your pancreas generate insulin,

(3) insulin causes glycerides in your blood to form in to triglycerides inside your fat cells

that's just all there is to it.

There is absolutely nothing else.

It is unbelievably simple.

There is no other mechanism - nothing - utterly nothing, else, whatsoever, is involved in body fat. (ie, adipose tissue)

It's just that simple. To repeat,

(1) When you INGEST carbohydrates,

(2) It makes your pancreas GENERATE insulin,

(3) insulin causes glycerides in your blood to FORM in to triglycerides inside your fat cells

("triglycerides inside your fat cells" is "body fat" .. the chubby stuff you feel.)

There is nothing else to it - absolutely nothing else, no other mechanism involved.

there is absolutely, whatsoever, nothing else - at all - involved.

Ingesting carbohydrates, causes you pancreas to create insulin, insulin causes your fat cells to add fat.

End of story.

So you can't get fat eating surplus of protein and fats? If you can, then the story continues..............:laugh:

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shimmer_glo

I haven't had a chance to read this entire thread yet, but just want to chime in and mention that it's not a good idea to drastically increase to heavier weight. It should be done in gradual increments over a period of time to avoid injury.

kalynn06

Someone said "Carbohydrates have nothing to do with body fat."....

Body fat is impossibly simple:

(1) When you ingest carbohydrates,

(2) It makes your pancreas generate insulin,

(3) insulin causes glycerides in your blood to form in to triglycerides inside your fat cells

that's just all there is to it.

There is absolutely nothing else.

It is unbelievably simple.

There is no other mechanism - nothing - utterly nothing, else, whatsoever, is involved in body fat. (ie, adipose tissue)

It's just that simple. To repeat,

(1) When you INGEST carbohydrates,

(2) It makes your pancreas GENERATE insulin,

(3) insulin causes glycerides in your blood to FORM in to triglycerides inside your fat cells

("triglycerides inside your fat cells" is "body fat" .. the chubby stuff you feel.)

There is nothing else to it - absolutely nothing else, no other mechanism involved.

there is absolutely, whatsoever, nothing else - at all - involved.

Ingesting carbohydrates, causes you pancreas to create insulin, insulin causes your fat cells to add fat.

End of story.

So you can't get fat eating surplus of protein and fats? If you can, then the story continues..............:laugh:

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

Yes this. There is not sufficient time to deal with the over simplified physiology, but that question gets to the heart of the biochemical diatribe in my head .

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Jeff92se

Since lifting weights will either help you gain / maintain muscle mass, the weight loss might be slower. vs losing fat AND muscle.

The OP should be more interested in the loss of inches off the waist. Probably more of a relavent measure her.

Who cares what you weigh if the inches come off?

crisanderson27

I haven't had a chance to read this entire thread yet, but just want to chime in and mention that it's not a good idea to drastically increase to heavier weight. It should be done in gradual increments over a period of time to avoid injury.

Sort of.

What's heavy to you...probably isn't to me (assuming you're female from your screen name). If I'm doing dumbbell shoulder presses with 55lbs, and you try with 55lbs, you're going to rip your shoulders out of the sockets...if you could even get the weights up. When I took my ex girlfriend to the gym for her first attempts at lifting weights...she was only capable of doing shoulder presses with 15lb weights. Trust me, she was putting every ounce of effort into her 15lb lifts, that I do my 55lb lifts.

This, to her...was lifting heavy...and she was getting all the benifits from her 15lbs, that I do from my 55's.

With proper form, and stretching before working out (as EVERYONE should), her risk of injury was no more than mine.

Masterdo

Someone said ... "I eat around twice that many grams of carbs and I'm still losing fat...?"

It's true, you can. But it's incredibly difficult.

I suggest, for merely two weeks, you just set your carbohydrate intake to 72 grams per day - exactly. See what happens.

It is an extremely simple test to try.

The first few days can be little difficult, because most people are hugely addicted to carbohydrates, but it gets much easier. And after as little as a few weeks, your pancreas begins to heal itself. After that. it's a pure breeze - you will have no DESIRE to eat more carbohydrates than that. And body fat will just fall off your body.

The one and ONLY way to know if it's "true or not" if you don't believe the science, is simply try it. It's extremely easy to try, and only takes 2 or 3 weeks!

Too much bro science Oh btw, if you eat those precise 72g at 10:43 pm, with a leg wrapped in bacon it's even MORE efficient! Crazy weight loss!

Find me even one published, peer reviewed article that backs anything you wrote in this thread Hint : It doesn't exist.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC333231/pdf/jcinvest00645-0194.pdf
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12684364

The systematic review of over 107 articles on weight loss evaluation a low carbs diet found NO link between low carbs and weight loss any stronger than the general caloric deficit that is induced by those diets in general. Read them, they are both free, you might even learn something!

Enjoy

Masterdo

While it's not peer-reviewed, the famous Twinkie diet kinda throws your theory out the window too.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Carbs galore!

eedossa

Bumping for later!

osualex

Someone said ... "I eat around twice that many grams of carbs and I'm still losing fat...?"

It's true, you can. But it's incredibly difficult.

I suggest, for merely two weeks, you just set your carbohydrate intake to 72 grams per day - exactly. See what happens.

It is an extremely simple test to try.

The first few days can be little difficult, because most people are hugely addicted to carbohydrates, but it gets much easier. And after as little as a few weeks, your pancreas begins to heal itself. After that. it's a pure breeze - you will have no DESIRE to eat more carbohydrates than that. And body fat will just fall off your body.

The one and ONLY way to know if it's "true or not" if you don't believe the science, is simply try it. It's extremely easy to try, and only takes 2 or 3 weeks!

I'm the one who said that. And it's really not that difficult, I promise I'm not doing some sort of magic so that I can eat more carbs. Plenty of people lose fat with carbs! Bodybuilders, athletes, and normal people like me.

I HAVE tried low-carb diets - I hated them and while I lost plenty of water weight my body did not look significantly different. I was a pretty mean person for a few weeks though.

Unless one has a medical insensitivity to carbs, eating whole, healthy carbs will not hinder fat loss.

connie_messina

Bump

crazedcujo

Bump it!

erickirb

Someone said "Carbohydrates have nothing to do with body fat."....

Body fat is impossibly simple:

(1) When you ingest carbohydrates,

(2) It makes your pancreas generate insulin,

(3) insulin causes glycerides in your blood to form in to triglycerides inside your fat cells

that's just all there is to it.

There is absolutely nothing else.

It is unbelievably simple.

There is no other mechanism - nothing - utterly nothing, else, whatsoever, is involved in body fat. (ie, adipose tissue)

It's just that simple. To repeat,

(1) When you INGEST carbohydrates,

(2) It makes your pancreas GENERATE insulin,

(3) insulin causes glycerides in your blood to FORM in to triglycerides inside your fat cells

("triglycerides inside your fat cells" is "body fat" .. the chubby stuff you feel.)

There is nothing else to it - absolutely nothing else, no other mechanism involved.

there is absolutely, whatsoever, nothing else - at all - involved.

Ingesting carbohydrates, causes you pancreas to create insulin, insulin causes your fat cells to add fat.

End of story.

But you will not increase fat stores if you total caloric intake is below maintenance regardless of type of Macro, please stop with this carb bashing BS.

My body fat is in the 9-11% range and I eat 45% of my cals from carbs, prior to my cut it was 50%, which means I am eating over 200 grams of carbs/day, and my abs are showing now more then ever.

erickirb

Someone said ... "I eat around twice that many grams of carbs and I'm still losing fat...?"

It's true, you can. But it's incredibly difficult.

I suggest, for merely two weeks, you just set your carbohydrate intake to 72 grams per day - exactly. See what happens.

It is an extremely simple test to try.

The first few days can be little difficult, because most people are hugely addicted to carbohydrates, but it gets much easier. And after as little as a few weeks, your pancreas begins to heal itself. After that. it's a pure breeze - you will have no DESIRE to eat more carbohydrates than that. And body fat will just fall off your body.

The one and ONLY way to know if it's "true or not" if you don't believe the science, is simply try it. It's extremely easy to try, and only takes 2 or 3 weeks!

What will happen is you will lose water weight as your glycogen stores would be lower and glycogen stores water, unless you are in a deficit cutting carbs will do nothing for fat loss. You may lose weight with cutting carbs but that will be mainly water, not fat.

FYI: trying to over-simplify the body's processing of carbs does not make what you say true, End of Story (that was to mock your End of story BS you put in to make it sound like an open and shut case). You completely left off deficit, surplus, etc.