Preachers and Naysayers get off your soap box.

carloc
carloc Posts: 135 Member
It seems that with the advent of the internet everyone now has a voice that they think allows them to be outraged by the most meaningless things said or done by someone else.

Anything someone does is probably going to go against the morals or ethics of someone else.

Do they have the right to preach their brand of morality back at you?
Does someone else have the right to try and force what they believe to be good, right and proper on the rest of us, because we see the world differently?
Or, does this just show that person's lack of self esteem, confidence in themselves. When I see this behavior what I see is that the person preaching is uncomfortable with who and what they are. That's just me though.

What are your opinions?

Old saying "One man's poison is another man's food".
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  • ChristineMarie89
    ChristineMarie89 Posts: 1,079 Member
    oh **** your going to hades for that!!! :O lol
    well said
  • frosty73
    frosty73 Posts: 424 Member
    What gives *you* the right to say this? Haven't you ever heard of the first amendment---- or whichever one gives the right to free speech?
    <<<trolling>>>>
  • ChristineMarie89
    ChristineMarie89 Posts: 1,079 Member
    What gives *you* the right to say this? Haven't you ever heard of the first amendment---- or whichever one gives the right to free speech?
    <<<trolling>>>>
    the same thing that gives you the right to say ^^ this
  • PapaverSomniferum
    PapaverSomniferum Posts: 2,670 Member
    if your religion is not the same as my religion

    you are clearly persecuting me, all people like me, and everyone else who SHOULD be like me

    by believing differently.

    you're not me, so you're WRONG, you stupid Troll.

    The beliefs I was raised with are THE ONLY VALID BELIEFS EVER

    and i shall practice my first amendment rights spamming you about how right i am

    and how wrong you are

    and how horrible you are treating me with your non-confrontational different-ness

    .
    .
    .
    go burn in a firey eternal make-believe land of doom
  • DietingMommy08
    DietingMommy08 Posts: 1,345 Member
    You know your judging the judgers (is that a word?)

    This post is nonsense....
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    What gives *you* the right to say this? Haven't you ever heard of the first amendment---- or whichever one gives the right to free speech?
    <<<trolling>>>>

    The First Amendment protects citizens from having their right of expression restricted by the GOVERNMENT, and even then there are exceptions.
  • Articeluvsmemphis
    Articeluvsmemphis Posts: 1,987 Member
    It depends on the topic. Some things are fact, some things are an opinion. Much of what people consider as "preaching" is merely someone giving advice or general counsel. Sometimes people don't want that information for whatever reason they have. The world would not be able to thrive if we each stayed in our own little worlds. On the other side of that, sometimes it would be best if we did so (some foreign relations issues, perhaps).
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    It seems that with the advent of the internet everyone now has a voice that they think allows them to be outraged by the most meaningless things said or done by someone else.

    Anything someone does is probably going to go against the morals or ethics of someone else.

    Do they have the right to preach their brand of morality back at you?
    Does someone else have the right to try and force what they believe to be good, right and proper on the rest of us, because we see the world differently?
    Or, does this just show that person's lack of self esteem, confidence in themselves. When I see this behavior what I see is that the person preaching is uncomfortable with who and what they are. That's just me though.

    What are your opinions?

    Old saying "One man's poison is another man's food".

    It depends. If someone says something racist, sexist, homophobic or generally bigoted, I feel obligated to respond, and I don't believe the moderators would allow offensive statements to stand. I also tend to respond if I read posts in which people espouse dieting and fitness theories that have been challenged or refuted.
  • angryguy77
    angryguy77 Posts: 836 Member
    Problem is, when someone has a core beliefe, they are labeled and called close minded by the same people who say we should except everyone's view. I find it hypocritical to say the least. There is a distinct difference between a person to say my belief should be forced onto someone through the law, and someone who states twhat they believe is right and people/society would be better off following that beliefe/system.

    There is nothing wrong with having a set of beliefs and telling people why it's correct.
  • DietingMommy08
    DietingMommy08 Posts: 1,345 Member
    There is nothing wrong with having a set of beliefs and telling people why it's correct.

    UNLESS said person didnt ASK.

    Its when you get the people who see you and dont agree with who you are or dont agree with what your choices are and they make it their obligation to tell you what they believe and why thier way of thinking is correct and yours is not.
  • bcampbell54
    bcampbell54 Posts: 932 Member
    1. There is a first amendment, and anybody can and should be able to say anything they want. 2. We enforce morality every day, they're called Laws. 3. You are free to listen or ignore what somebody says, and to reply if you feel the need.
  • delilah47
    delilah47 Posts: 1,658
    What really makes me laugh is the control freaks on the internet. If you do something differently than them, they call you all kinds of stupid, then get p!ssed off when they can't make you see their way. It must be very frustrating for them. :laugh: :laugh:
  • m60kaf
    m60kaf Posts: 421 Member
    It seems that with the advent of the internet everyone now has a voice that they think allows them to be outraged by the most meaningless things said or done by someone else.

    Anything someone does is probably going to go against the morals or ethics of someone else.

    Do they have the right to preach their brand of morality back at you?
    Does someone else have the right to try and force what they believe to be good, right and proper on the rest of us, because we see the world differently?
    Or, does this just show that person's lack of self esteem, confidence in themselves. When I see this behavior what I see is that the person preaching is uncomfortable with who and what they are. That's just me though.

    What are your opinions?

    Old saying "One man's poison is another man's food".

    Oh sooo true - that southern state blinkered mentality so winds me up
  • carloc
    carloc Posts: 135 Member
    If you don't know which amendment grants people in the US to the right of Free Speech, I would suggest you have some reading and studying on American history to do.

    I am English and know the answer, and that very "First Amendment" give me the right and the freedom to ask a question in a constructive manner.

    Didn't use the quote option here... doh.
  • lporter229
    lporter229 Posts: 4,907 Member
    If I don't like what a person has to say or if I decide they are an idiot, I just move on. No one is forcing me to read their rants and certainly not forcing me to respond. The only time I engage in an argument on a forum is if I respect what the other person is saying in the first place. Sometimes I just like to play devil's advocate. I wouldn't waste my time trying to argue with someone that i feel is spewing rubbish.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Dear America,

    To go through life without being offended has not ever been and will never be, one of your human rights.

    Sincerely,

    America
  • MrsSamB
    MrsSamB Posts: 143 Member
    Everyone is entitled to their opinions even if I don't happen to subscribe to what others may or may not believe. Given that the internet is a free market for soapboxes, I would just say that if you happen to disagree with what someone believes or doesn't believe, ignore it. Arguing about the differences isn't going to make someone change their minds.


    When I was in high school, I was one of those kids who was always "preaching" for people to come to Jesus and get saved. While I felt that I was doing some good, I wasn't for the most part. People did come up to me later and say that they respected the way that I stood for my beliefs (even when other kids were throwing milk cartons and food and yelling mean stuff).

    Later down the road, I realized that me harping on my fellow students wasn't going to make them change their life and love Jesus. It may make them angry or resentful, though. And that wasn't my intention...

    Now, I still love Jesus and I talk to people about Him but only when the conversation permits it. I am not pushy. I am not trying to convert every person that I come across. I am hoping that my life will be an example of how Jesus would have treated people. Who knows.

    I said all of that to say: People can say whatever they want, we don't have to agree with them and we certainly don't have to argue about it.

    Stepping off of my soapbox now,
    sam
  • jackpotclown
    jackpotclown Posts: 3,275 Member
    I have Linkin Park tickets!! \m/
  • MrsSamB
    MrsSamB Posts: 143 Member
    Dear America,

    To go through life without being offended has not ever been and will never be, one of your human rights.

    Sincerely,

    America

    LOVE IT!!!
  • ChristiH4000
    ChristiH4000 Posts: 531 Member
    The interweb has given people a whole new brand of "bravery". If it weren't for the virtual curtain protecting many of these judgey mcjudgertons, many wouldn't have the courage to spew the vitriol they spew. Many also would keep themselves in groups that hold their same ideologies and would never hear the opinions of those whose views don't line up with their particular brand of crazy.
  • Tybalt71
    Tybalt71 Posts: 1,064 Member
    Respectively, if you put something out there into a open public forum then you open your self upto the critisism or public ridicule and being called on your statement(s) if you want an honest opinion and cant handle the answer you were looking for or wanted to hear, then dont ask!!!!!!!!!!!-Ty, i hold myself to the same accountabilty, in the end you didnt have to post, OWN IT!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    People have a right to say whatever they want (for the most part). I have a right to ignore them.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
    Respectively, if you put something out there into a open public forum then you open your self upto the critisism or public ridicule and being called on your statement(s) if you want an honest opinion and cant handle the answer you were looking for or wanted to hear, then dont ask!!!!!!!!!!!-Ty, i hold myself to the same accountabilty, in the end you didnt have to post, OWN IT!

    Bingo.

    If you don't want people to comment, don't post it on the interwebz. Simple.
  • mrmanmeat
    mrmanmeat Posts: 1,968 Member
    I like to say GD.

    This is humorous in the south too.
  • ArroganceInStep
    ArroganceInStep Posts: 6,239 Member
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  • kurenaikumo
    kurenaikumo Posts: 271 Member
    It's my policy to give not 2, not 1, but a whole ZERO s**ts what anyone else's opinion is, and I don't care if someone disagrees with me, either. I'm shocked, surprised or offended by VERY little. Makes life a whole lot less stressful...
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    You should bring this topic over to the debate club
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    It seems that with the advent of the internet everyone now has a voice that they think allows them to be outraged by the most meaningless things said or done by someone else.

    Anything someone does is probably going to go against the morals or ethics of someone else.

    Do they have the right to preach their brand of morality back at you?
    Does someone else have the right to try and force what they believe to be good, right and proper on the rest of us, because we see the world differently?
    Or, does this just show that person's lack of self esteem, confidence in themselves. When I see this behavior what I see is that the person preaching is uncomfortable with who and what they are. That's just me though.

    What are your opinions?

    Old saying "One man's poison is another man's food".

    Your whining offends me.
  • Vi0l33t
    Vi0l33t Posts: 117 Member
    if your religion is not the same as my religion

    you are clearly persecuting me, all people like me, and everyone else who SHOULD be like me

    by believing differently.

    you're not me, so you're WRONG, you stupid Troll.

    The beliefs I was raised with are THE ONLY VALID BELIEFS EVER

    and i shall practice my first amendment rights spamming you about how right i am

    and how wrong you are

    and how horrible you are treating me with your non-confrontational different-ness

    .
    .
    .
    go burn in a firey eternal make-believe land of doom



    bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Respectively, if you put something out there into a open public forum then you open your self upto the critisism or public ridicule and being called on your statement(s) if you want an honest opinion and cant handle the answer you were looking for or wanted to hear, then dont ask!!!!!!!!!!!-Ty, i hold myself to the same accountabilty, in the end you didnt have to post, OWN IT!

    False, you can jump on the forums and say a bunch of insane crap and then log off and never check back for responses.
    Also- too many people on here have alternate fake accounts so they can get away with saying asperger-y nonsense anyway.
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