Can too much cardio kill your metabolism?

danifo0811

My step brother and wife are bodybuilders at the national level. When they are doing the weight loss part of the muscle building they do almost no cardio. They say they can lose 30 lbs with just weights and see the same people at the gym on the treadmill everyday losing no weight.

Their main criticism of it is it makes you hungrier and you have to fuel it properly which can impair the weight loss/muscle maintenance+growth they are aiming for.

monty619

My step brother and wife are bodybuilders at the national level. When they are doing the weight loss part of the muscle building they do almost no cardio. They say they can lose 30 lbs with just weights and see the same people at the gym on the treadmill everyday losing no weight.

Their main criticism of it is it makes you hungrier and you have to fuel it properly which can impair the weight loss/muscle maintenance+growth they are aiming for.

100% accurate

sirabe

This is good stuff. Thanks

ninerbuff

which I understand, but my problem is it's my job. I'm a stay at home mom, and teaching group ex is how I help contribute monetarily so it's not like I'm just putting my foot down to be stubborn. I stop the classes, I stop the income.

Then be an "instructor". You DON'T have to do the class. Show the movement and "walk" the class. That's what an instructor should do. If you're making the class your workout, then how are instructing if someone has bad form? Are you physically walking over and making corrections? Or are you cueing them?
I instruct kickboxing and walk the class. My own workout, I do on my own.

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I'm pretty sure with Body Pump ( les mills programs) she CAN'T "walk" the class. She HAS to DO the workout. She could use less weight on her bar, but more than likely, participants will notice and probably not be as motivated to "load up" their own......
I teach Group Power (which is basically the same as Body Pump. I actually do weights on my own at least once a week and/or go to a boot camp class. My body is so used to Power classes, I just don't get the same benefit anymore. I have to do other stuff.

So you show a squat and have to do all the reps with the class? The classes are based on repetitions so showing the movement then walking the class shouldn't be an issue. It's not like step where you have to cue like every 8 beats or so.


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graysmom2005

which I understand, but my problem is it's my job. I'm a stay at home mom, and teaching group ex is how I help contribute monetarily so it's not like I'm just putting my foot down to be stubborn. I stop the classes, I stop the income.

Then be an "instructor". You DON'T have to do the class. Show the movement and "walk" the class. That's what an instructor should do. If you're making the class your workout, then how are instructing if someone has bad form? Are you physically walking over and making corrections? Or are you cueing them?
I instruct kickboxing and walk the class. My own workout, I do on my own.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I'm pretty sure with Body Pump ( les mills programs) she CAN'T "walk" the class. She HAS to DO the workout. She could use less weight on her bar, but more than likely, participants will notice and probably not be as motivated to "load up" their own......
I teach Group Power (which is basically the same as Body Pump. I actually do weights on my own at least once a week and/or go to a boot camp class. My body is so used to Power classes, I just don't get the same benefit anymore. I have to do other stuff.

So you show a squat and have to do all the reps with the class? The classes are based on repetitions so showing the movement then walking the class shouldn't be an issue. It's not like step where you have to cue like every 8 beats or so.


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Incorrect. She's actually right. Except for spin all the classes I teach are Les Mills. This means they are choreographed to the music and I'm expected to be up front teaching the whole time. If I break off for even a second the whole class falls apart...even squats in Pump are done at different tempos to the music. I'm basically the conductor. I do lighten my weights to help fatigue, but we are expected to use "role model weight". Combat, CXWORX, and Sh'bam same thing. All choreographed.

ninerbuff

Incorrect. She's actually right. Except for spin all the classes I teach are Les Mills. This means they are choreographed to the music and I'm expected to be up front teaching the whole time. If I break off for even a second the whole class falls apart...even squats in Pump are done at different tempos to the music. I'm basically the conductor. I do lighten my weights to help fatigue, but we are expected to use "role model weight". Combat, CXWORX, and Sh'bam same thing. All choreographed.

Probably why I never bought into the system when offered to teach it.:smokin: Guess your choices are continue with what you're doing, or cut back on a few classes.
I instruct k-box 7days a week, but only one class (cardio kickbox) relies on me spending a little more time on choreography (which is solely my own). The other classes I just have to demonstrate, then I get to walk the class and correct form and motivate.

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suziecue66

I met up with an old friend today who used to be a cardio bunny/group ex'er like me. She since started training to be in fitness competitions and it's teeny tiny/very low body fat. She said that too much cardio can kill your metabolism and that that is probably why I can't lose any weight. I teach 10 strength/cardio classes a week. I never heard of this before. Has anyone else? It sucks because unless I give up my classes/job, I'm stuck where I am.

So you're not at goal weight? Thought you were from ticker.

Royaltvii

It can, It can over load the central nervous system...All i can say is eat back your calories add some different excerrcises like weight training and see where that takes you.

ednabnana

I have few friends that compete. They aren't very fond of cardio. They said that you burned as much calories, or more doing resistance training. I see them at the gym almost every day & their cardio is treadmill walking or the stairmaster. These people are RIPPED.

pinkita

My step brother and wife are bodybuilders at the national level. When they are doing the weight loss part of the muscle building they do almost no cardio. They say they can lose 30 lbs with just weights and see the same people at the gym on the treadmill everyday losing no weight.

Their main criticism of it is it makes you hungrier and you have to fuel it properly which can impair the weight loss/muscle maintenance+growth they are aiming for.

OMG can they adopt me? :laugh: I really need help... sigh

sleepytexan

Cardio is useful for heart and lungs. Endurance.

Lifting is useful for strength and bone density.

Both are beneficial, however it is difficult to train hard in one without the other suffering; eg: you will not run a marathon well while adding weight on the bar on your off days, nor will you win a powerlifting contest while training for Ironman.

There isn't a "best" exercise contest going on--don't forget the fun factor!

Just because I love lifting heavy and adding weight on that bar consistently, doesn't mean I don't also love the endurance challenge of riding a century, the pure joy of paddlebaording out on the water on a glorious sunny day, or spending an evening salsa dancing.

Multifaceted people are more interesting. And meatheads have arms that stick out strangely from their body when they walk. JMO.

chelseaflorez

I got some good info here. Tons of cardio worked for me about 8 years ago.. now that i'm 41... things have changed ha ha ha I need to UP my calories apparently and cut back at least one day on the cardio. I wasn' the one who asked the initial question... but got the answers I needed . Thanks.

p4ulmiller

Wait.

So this thread thinks that cardio doesn't help weight loss.

ninerbuff

which I understand, but my problem is it's my job. I'm a stay at home mom, and teaching group ex is how I help contribute monetarily so it's not like I'm just putting my foot down to be stubborn. I stop the classes, I stop the income.

Then be an "instructor". You DON'T have to do the class. Show the movement and "walk" the class. That's what an instructor should do. If you're making the class your workout, then how are instructing if someone has bad form? Are you physically walking over and making corrections? Or are you cueing them?
I instruct kickboxing and walk the class. My own workout, I do on my own.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 28+ years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

I'm pretty sure with Body Pump ( les mills programs) she CAN'T "walk" the class. She HAS to DO the workout. She could use less weight on her bar, but more than likely, participants will notice and probably not be as motivated to "load up" their own......
I teach Group Power (which is basically the same as Body Pump. I actually do weights on my own at least once a week and/or go to a boot camp class. My body is so used to Power classes, I just don't get the same benefit anymore. I have to do other stuff.

Good thing that I don't instruct BodyPump then.:laugh: I teach a strength class (although it's still the plastic weights) and try to encourage participants to use as much weight a possible for each exercise. And I start with exercises that use the heaviest weights first (legs and back) then then we strip it down as we progress to smaller body parts.
But I still walk the class. I show, then have them do it while I count. Our job should be to assist in correct form and execution with members since that's what they pay and attend for. Every week I'm adjusting people on exercises I introduce (each week I have a different workout). Moving hands apart, flattening out backs, teaching proper breathing, etc. And I'm more than sure it's appreciated because the class is always packed.

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