I'm sick of the term "skinny-fat"
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skinny fat is a term referring to a thin person with a high bf%. You are not TIGHT and FIT but just skinny. you might be saggy and droopy or just soft. lacking in muscle tone.0
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skinny fat is a term referring to a thin person with a high bf%. You are not TIGHT and FIT but just skinny. you might be saggy and droopy or just soft. lacking in muscle tone.
Exactly, batwing arms, muffin tops come to mind.0 -
I don't think people are trying to be on anyone's back. They just understand that strength training is vital.0
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skinny fat is a term referring to a thin person with a high bf%. You are not TIGHT and FIT but just skinny. you might be saggy and droopy or just soft. lacking in muscle tone.
Exactly, batwing arms, muffin tops, flapjack buttcheeks come to mind.
And these descriptors are, of course, body positive, and in using them, you've not in any way got on anyone's 'back'?0 -
Good job losing so much weight! Of course cardio burns more calories than weight ligting.
Only very muscular people who are experienced weight lifters can burn some calories doing weight lifting. People who are just starting, it will take them a long time before they start doing it right or with any effect (unless you have a personal trainer who works with you every day - and even then it will be effective only in combibnation with aerobic workouts)
WHAT?!?!? Where do you get your information? Lots of assumptions going on here. ONLY WITH A TRAINER? and only in conjunction with aerobic workouts? says who? why? and only EVERY DAY--because your body suddenly realizes that if you take a 1 day break or go every other day that the workouts you did do are no longer effective and any progress is immediately taken back---it's only a sequence that makes it effective, right? 7 days a week or nothing. Interesting concept. Never thought of that.0 -
skinny fat is a term referring to a thin person with a high bf%. You are not TIGHT and FIT but just skinny. you might be saggy and droopy or just soft. lacking in muscle tone.
Exactly, batwing arms, muffin tops, flapjack buttcheeks come to mind.
And these descriptors are, of course, body positive, and in using them, you've not in any way got on anyone's 'back'?
i think the descriptors are useful...sucks if it describes someone's hangy rear but squats and lunges can fix that.0 -
I agree that I'm sick of the term skinny fat, but it is highly misused in these forums.
I'm sorry if people harass you about cardio. I also love it. It's a good....better...best thing.
Cardio is good. strength training is good. Cardio and strength training is better. Cardio, strength training and flexibility is best.
^^^This. But more power to you for just getting started to begin with.
A step forward is a step forward. No need to leap tall buildings your first day...0 -
I say do what you want and what works for you and to hell with any one who tells you different. If you come in asking for advice then be prepared for what you get but that is not what you did so good for you for doing something.0
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if I wanna do cardio instead of lifting "heavy" then get off my back about it! This is still the beginning of my journey, let me get comfortable with the fact that I am even moving my body anywhere besides from the bed to the couch. I haven't lifted one single weight yet and I've lost 30 lbs.
Good job! And keep it up!!
I started with just cardio and went from 300 lbs to 250 lbs. I also gained a lot of muscles in my legs and butt. Carrying my fat *kitten* around was strength-training in and of itself.
Later on, you may add strength-training to give your body a boost. But, for now, cardio is great. :flowerforyou:0 -
I was the classic skinny fat and much as you hate the term being where I was when I started is shocking . 10 months ago I waked into my gym at my goal weight and told my trainer although I was 128 lbs and a us size 4 when I looked in the mirror all I saw was flab . I was in the idel weight zone on BMi charts but when my body fat was measured I was 39 per cent body fat . It was a huge shock . I am now 10 months in and the exact same weight 128 lbs with a 24 per sent body fat working at getting to 20 per cent . I hate hate cardio . I dont knock anyone for doing it its just not for me . I lift heavy as I can for me and do strength ,core and stretching with 20 mins hiit cardio which works for me . I have lost so many inches and when I look in the mirror I see a different person .
I have had people walk past me who don't recognise me and guys from school tell me I am so much hotter now at 37 than when I was in school etc . A 39 per cent body fat in someone who was essentially a very normal weight was unhealthy and shocking so yes skinny fat does exist0 -
First of all, congrats on changing your lifestyle and the loss so far
You're right, you need to do what makes you happy and what you feel good about.
Just something to consider though, I did the same thing as you - I lost the weight through healthy eating and occasional cardio. Now I find that even though I lost (most of) the weight I wanted to lose, I'm still not thrilled with my body because I want that sexy toned look. I'm thin now, sure, but there's no definition anywhere. Now I lift weights and am starting to see results, but I wish I'd listened to the advice to "lift heavy" a lot sooner. Would've saved me a lot of time - I could've toned AS I lost the weight, instead of losing weight and then starting over with toning. Just my 2 cents
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Someone who truly is "skinny-fat" won't even look particularly skinny. They'll have a low to normal body weight, but high body fat percentage. It's the result of losing weight on very low calories over a prolonged period of time, without proper nutrition and exercise necessary to maintain lean muscle mass. So a lot of muscle is lost, but not much body fat. Since muscle is more dense than fat, the person drops a considerable amount of weight, but she won't be happy with her body composition, and will reach her goal weight and think, "Ugh. Maybe if I lost another 10 pounds." And she keeps doing the same thing she's been doing, and loses more muscle. Maybe her weight loss has even stalled (maybe a few times) and she thinks the only way to lose more is to drop her calories more. So she keeps eating very little and keeps losing muscle, and she gets lighter in weight, but doesn't change her shape all that much.0
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OP. You do understand that if you didn't post the thread in the 1st place, no one would be getting on your back about anything.
^This. My first thought was obviously there was something asked or said first to MAKE it a concern.0 -
I was the classic skinny fat and much as you hate the term being where I was when I started is shocking . 10 months ago I waked into my gym at my goal weight and told my trainer although I was 128 lbs and a us size 4 when I looked in the mirror all I saw was flab . I was in the idel weight zone on BMi charts but when my body fat was measured I was 39 per cent body fat . It was a huge shock . I am now 10 months in and the exact same weight 128 lbs with a 24 per sent body fat working at getting to 20 per cent . I hate hate cardio . I dont knock anyone for doing it its just not for me . I lift heavy as I can for me and do strength ,core and stretching with 20 mins hiit cardio which works for me . I have lost so many inches and when I look in the mirror I see a different person .
I have had people walk past me who don't recognise me and guys from school tell me I am so much hotter now at 37 than when I was in school etc . A 39 per cent body fat in someone who was essentially a very normal weight was unhealthy and shocking so yes skinny fat does exist
Yes. Excellent comment here.
I look a lot smaller than I really weigh from all the weight training I've done over the course of my weight loss. It's been awesome.0 -
I agree the self-righteous fluff can be more than a bit irritating. I enjoy strength training but I didn't always. Ease into it, reach your goal and then use strength training as a way to keep improving.
Also - did everyone just ignore the fact that she said she just started her journey? One step at a time. I'd be afraid of how judgemental you people would be of a person that decided to start with JUST giving up soda. She ate a COOKIE?! She only walks 3mph and not 4mph?! My god, the world is coming to an end. :huh:
Baby steps. I ignore the pompus parade whenever I feel like.
I agree with this! I do plan on doing a lot of toning and I would love to pick up strength training and get some muscles but not everyone wants a lot of muscles and that's okay. I think if you are skinny then yes, you should make sure you're also in good health but people throw that term around to people who choose not to do weight lifting too and it's annoying. Everyone has different goals and body type preferences.
OP, congrats on the weight loss!! I'm with you- at this point skinny anything sounds good to me lol0 -
I hate the term "toning" but that doesn't anyone is going to change.
Putting together a fitness plan that you enjoy is important. It also have to be enjoyable and EFFECTIVE. If what you are doing is enjoyable and effective go with that...until it's not effective anymore...anf that day will come. When that day does come consider what people have told you about lifting.0 -
I don't like it either. I have lost 79 pounds with mostly cardio and have about 70 more to go. I plan to do cardio for the rest but with some added strength training too. I think once you come to a point, strength training is a good idea. I definitely feel a lot stronger now than I did when I just did cardio and I hardly do any weight training, just a little. If you don't like weights tho, maybe try some other muscle toning stuff? If not, it's really just YOUR body and you are free to do with it what you please.
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I agree the self-righteous fluff can be more than a bit irritating. I enjoy strength training but I didn't always. Ease into it, reach your goal and then use strength training as a way to keep improving.
Also - did everyone just ignore the fact that she said she just started her journey? One step at a time. I'd be afraid of how judgemental you people would be of a person that decided to start with JUST giving up soda. She ate a COOKIE?! She only walks 3mph and not 4mph?! My god, the world is coming to an end. :huh:
Baby steps. I ignore the pompus parade whenever I feel like.
I agree with this! I do plan on doing a lot of toning and I would love to pick up strength training and get some muscles but not everyone wants a lot of muscles and that's okay. I think if you are skinny then yes, you should make sure you're also in good health but people throw that term around to people who choose not to do weight lifting too and it's annoying. Everyone has different goals and body type preferences.
OP, congrats on the weight loss!! I'm with you- at this point skinny anything sounds good to me lol
well people who don't want to be opposed shouldn't make such controversial remarks that are likely to elicit such feedback. You wouldn't wear a damn circus tent and expect someone to tell you that you'll fit in nicely at a funeral...similarly...don't go posting a rant about being sick of a term that has validity and then posting confirmation that your lifestyle is such that you're likely to achieve said physique without modifying your exercise regimen. WE get it, you're making progress--okay. That's great--but don't start a thread about the term skinny fat when you're really just upset about people ignoring your progress.0 -
I love the term, "skinny-fat".
It reminds me of what I never ever want to be.0 -
I'd rather be skinny fat than fat fat, so I can't really see anything wrong with it at the moment.0
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Eh, I was skinny fat. I will admit it. I did majority of cardio to lose all my weight. Then I started lifting when I reached my first goal then my belly and everything else started to shrink.
It is great you are getting up and moving though.0 -
skinny fat is a term referring to a thin person with a high bf%. You are not TIGHT and FIT but just skinny. you might be saggy and droopy or just soft. lacking in muscle tone.
Exactly, batwing arms, muffin tops, flapjack buttcheeks come to mind.
And these descriptors are, of course, body positive, and in using them, you've not in any way got on anyone's 'back'?
i think the descriptors are useful...sucks if it describes someone's hangy rear but squats and lunges can fix that.
Negative descriptions of other people's bodies are never useful....0 -
Just my 2 cents:
A year ago when I was really beginning my journey, I did mostly all cardio. It's what burned the most calories and that is all I cared about! As I got more comfortable at the gym I slowly started utilizing different machines. When I got within 5lbs of my goal, I ditched the scale, started eating more, and starting lifting.
I sometimes wonder to myself if I had told the "old me" from a year ago that I should only be lifting weights, and not doing any cardio, if I would've actually been successful. I think no, just because I was so uncomfortable with myself and unsure of what I should be doing. It took a year for me to do enough research and learn enough about my body to successfully train with heavy weights. The cardio really helped me drop the weight, now that the weight is gone, I am focusing on building muscle to give my body a nice shape. So far, it's working wonders, and seeing muscles grow is absolutely amazing. But I'd never see those changes if I didn't drop the weight first.
So what I'm trying to say is, although I am on the light cardio/heavy lifting train now (I do also do some HIIT too), I wasn't always and I don't think it would've worked for me from the beginning. Don't worry about what anyone else says, when and if the time comes for you to switch over, you'll know it and be ready for it!
Good luck on your journey!!
Jumpin Johosaphat! ^This exactly.0 -
I love the term, "skinny-fat".
It reminds me of what I never ever want to be.
Me too.
Reminds me of where I started and how hard it is to fix0 -
if I wanna do cardio instead of lifting "heavy" then get off my back about it! This is still the beginning of my journey, let me get comfortable with the fact that I am even moving my body anywhere besides from the bed to the couch. I haven't lifted one single weight yet and I've lost 30 lbs.
30 lbs down from 279 is healthier...any way you look at it.
That is all.
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I agree the self-righteous fluff can be more than a bit irritating. I enjoy strength training but I didn't always. Ease into it, reach your goal and then use strength training as a way to keep improving.
Also - did everyone just ignore the fact that she said she just started her journey? One step at a time. I'd be afraid of how judgemental you people would be of a person that decided to start with JUST giving up soda. She ate a COOKIE?! She only walks 3mph and not 4mph?! My god, the world is coming to an end. :huh:
Baby steps. I ignore the pompus parade whenever I feel like.
I agree with this! I do plan on doing a lot of toning and I would love to pick up strength training and get some muscles but not everyone wants a lot of muscles and that's okay. I think if you are skinny then yes, you should make sure you're also in good health but people throw that term around to people who choose not to do weight lifting too and it's annoying. Everyone has different goals and body type preferences.
OP, congrats on the weight loss!! I'm with you- at this point skinny anything sounds good to me lol
well people who don't want to be opposed shouldn't make such controversial remarks that are likely to elicit such feedback. You wouldn't wear a damn circus tent and expect someone to tell you that you'll fit in nicely at a funeral...similarly...don't go posting a rant about being sick of a term that has validity and then posting confirmation that your lifestyle is such that you're likely to achieve said physique without modifying your exercise regimen. WE get it, you're making progress--okay. That's great--but don't start a thread about the term skinny fat when you're really just upset about people ignoring your progress.
I didn't said it wasn't a valid term. I said I'm sick of it. I also made no such confirmation that I would achieve any certain physique without modifying my routine. And...I don't feel that my progress has been ignored. I'm just sick of a_ _holes who feel like I should jump in head-first because they feel "that's how it should be done."
AGAIN... this is the beginning of my new lifestyle. Let me get a grip on one big change before we throw another one in. I would love to lift, someday, hopefully soon.0 -
Skinny fat beats fat fat every day of the week.
Personally, I'd rather look like a lean cyclist than a buffed-up body builder. The mistake that the lifters make is to assume that everyone wants to look like Schwarzenegger. We don't.0 -
Skinny fat beats fat fat every day of the week.
Personally, I'd rather look like a lean cyclist than a buffed-up body builder. The mistake that the lifters make is to assume that everyone wants to look like Schwarzenegger. We don't.
It takes a lot more than lifting heavy 3x per week to look like Schwarzenegger. Just pointing that out.
Point taken though.0 -
IF you are exercising and making good food choices and you are happy with your lifestyle, that's what counts. Just ignore what the others are saying. Good luck with your journey 0
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It doesn't make sense for marathon runners to have upper-body bulk. It does nothing for them and represents extra weight they have to move forward in a race. Your body adapts to the sports you do. If you are a runner, bulky muscles don't make sense and are actually a hindrance to performance.Isn't 'skinny fat' referring to very skinny people who are unhealthy? So whilst they aren't fat, because of their lifestyle it's more like a 'fat' persons?
Not sure what this has to do with cardio V lifting? Except that for skinny people they don't need the cardio to lose weight, they need the lifting to get a better body?
skinny fat means people who are close to a healthy body weight but still have high body fat. basically for them it's more about increasing their lean body mass (through weight training) than losing weight.
the broscience people want to have us believe that cardio makes you fatter because it burns muscle or something like that.
Brofessors don't claim that running makes you fatter, but long distance running cuts through muscle like a hot knife through butter. So even though you are losing fat, you are losing a lot of muscle as well. So when you do lose a significant amount of weight, you total body fat % may remain unchanged despite being a thinner version of your pre running self.
it's not the running so much as most marathoners arent lifting heavy weights. no matter what they were doing, if you dont use your muscle then it becomes more efficient for your body to get rid of it. back when i played rugby i did tons of long distance running for conditioning (maybe like 30-45 miles a week) and never had any issue keeping my muscle mass because i was also lifting like crazy and eating what i needed to stay at the weight i wanted
i'm friends with a few pro athletes in rugby and football. these are HUGE dudes. they lift serious weight and they also do crazy amounts of cardio, lots of it steady state. they have no issues with losing muscle either.0
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