Upset and needing advice and encouragement!
SoulSistaSarah
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I have been swimming my butt off the past month. The past couple of weeks, I have went every day for 90 minutes per day non stop swimming. This morning, I did 120 minutes non stop swimming. My issue is this: I weighed myself for my month marker to log how much I lost in a month. Scale was at 282.5. This morning it was time for my regular weigh in, and I was stoked to see if I lost more, and about cried because the scale read 285.0! I'm not taking in too much sodium, my carbs are well under my limits (no, I don't do low carb) and my diet is perfect. The only thing that I can figure is that it is muscle gain? Am I just trying to pacify myself? I mean, I definitely notice a change in my muscles! Everything is toning up nicely, but not bulking or anything of course lol. I'm just really frustrated. I'm not in the mindset of quitting, I couldn't imagine doing that! But I'm frustrated with my weight increase. Can anybody help me out? Offer some insight? Am I swimming too long and it is having a strange effect on me? Should I just be patient, Nd the weight will start coming off again? If it is muscle gain, how long will my weight stay up? Should I expect even more of an increase. Thanks for any insight you all can offer and for reading my rant this morning!?
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Have you lost inches? For some people, the inches come off before the pounds. Also, how much are you eating? You may need to take a look at how many cals, and possibly adjust upward, given the amount of time you are spending swimming. Good luck...please don't give up!0
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Did you by chance take your body measurements before you started swimming? You could very well be building muscle. Hang in there. Also open your diary because you can get more help that way0
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Maybe your diet isn't as perfect as you think. You should make it visible so others can really offer more insight and perhaps find something that could be going wrong there. Also, with as much swimming as you do, your body may just be so used to it it is not having as much of a positive effect as you would expect. I'm not saying to stop, but your body does respond to change. what else do you do for exercise? I am almost certain that with a new regime your body will change. Muscle might definitely be a factor here but when you have weight to lose, you can't possibly stay the same weight forever if you're doing the right things. the scale can absolutely become your worst enemy. It's good that you don't weigh yourself often. It's not the most accurate indicator of your weightloss journey. For example, two different ppl could both weigh in at 140 and can be in great shape while the other is completely out of shape, you know? Hang in there and stay focused. It doesn't happen overnight. Take it day by day and set small goals. Looking at the big picture can be scary sometimes. You're doing the best thing for yourself right now. It just takes a little time to get it all right.
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Are your muscles sore? if so, you are retaining water as your muscles repair themselves. I would suggest to introduce some strength training into your routine.
I agree, to get measurements and track them. That is a better indication of fat loss then the scale. I could not see your diary, so I am not sure if your choices are hurting your efforts. Processed foods tend to be extremely high in sodium, thus water retention.
When I started to lose weight, I fell for a lot of the lean cruisines, smart ones. low cal, low fat, its got to be good for you. But I never felt good after eating them. Keep the diet clean, continue to do the swimming, and introduce some strength training. The journey will be long , but oh so worth it!0 -
I don't want to break your spirit but I highly doubt you are building muscle by swimming...
It really comes down to your diet. You can exercise all you want, which is great by the way, but if your diet isn't spot on you won't lose the weight. You should reevaluate your calorie intake, get a kitchen scale, prepare all of your foods yourself, and give it a good month to see some changes.
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Are you eating back your exercise cals that you burn? Because I wonder if you are overestimating your cals burned, eating them back and then not losing because of it. Just curious.
Also are you taking measurements? Tracking Body fat percentage? The scale isn't the only way to track your progress ... Try adding some other workouts to the routine - HEY I posted a challenge today that shouldn't be too difficult, maybe give it a try. If you need to you can modify it some :-)
***Oh I remember you saying a day or so ago you were struggling consuming your cals. That may also be a part of it, make sure you are getting all your calories in for the day... Too little is just as bad as too much when it comes to losing weight- BOTH cause the scale to act up.0 -
I started swimming last year because it was a fun way of exercise that I could commit to. I was the same, I gained about 5 lbs and didn't lose anything for the first couple of months. I did breastroke/front crawl for about an hour, 3 times a week. It's just the muscle building up because of the resistance in the water, so you're likely to gain weight. It's possibly one of the best ways to exercise in my opinion. Stick at it though! After a couple months I noticed the weight started to come off and I lost a stone in the third month. That was with a 1400 cal a day allowance. But everyone's different. Hope you start to see results soon.x0
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I take in 1400 calories a day. My sodium intake doesn't go above 2400 and my carbs are typically about 160 a day. I eat about 30-35 grams of fiber a day and I get about 90-100 grams of protein per day. I eat very healthy, no processed foods. Whole grains, lean meats, veggies and very small amounts of fruit to keep my sugar intake down. That also never goes up to the allotment MFP says I can have at 1400 calories a day. MFP said to maintain my weight currently, I would have to eat almost 2800 calories! I'm half that lol. I don't make my food log public for everyone. Nothing personal lol. I do measure myself. Haven't done it this week yet. No muscle soreness. Actually the opposite. My body feels amazing and my muscles feel stronger than ever. I have a ton of energy and I couldn't imagine feeling like I used to.0
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No way to eating extra calories! I take in 1400 a day and that is it! I always have a negative calorie intake when my day is done.0
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Could be muscles but really only if you were jumping into exercise for the very first time ("noob gains"). Those mucles might even just be retaining water, since when you're stressing them out they tend to hold on to water for repair purposes.
Could be youre not eating enough (I can't see your diary...) I know that's counter intuitive, but with huge burns like that it's important to fuel your body properly. Even if that's just a "spike day" once a week. Do a forum search for plateau busting, you'll see tons of people having success when they bump their calories (again I don't know what you're eating so I apologize if this is something you already know).
Could be youre not calculating your burns and your calories properly. could be underestimating food and overestimating burns, or any combo of that.
Could be your diet is under all your macros, but it's "crap." Try eating "real" food, nothing processed, and see if that helps push things along. Not to say you cant lose weight eating whatever at a deficit, but I've found that quality DOES matter.
Good luck
I know you work hard!!
Edit - JUST saw your second post. Really, eat your exercise calories, at least half of them. Search the forums for people who do so, or have busted through plateaus by EATING MORE. It's not a joke. You don't have to eat all of them, but make sure your net calories are at least 1200ish so you're not starving. Your body will freak out and not cooperate.0 -
Don't worry, you're buliding muscle. Add an intense cardio routine to change it so that you can lose weight. I am doing turbo fire and I'm seing results already. Be blessed!0
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Why don't you open your diary so people can help? Also, try and get your body fat measured by a professional at a gym and see where you are at....and then try using that as a guide, rather than the scale. Also take your measurements.0
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No way to eating extra calories! I take in 1400 a day and that is it! I always have a negative calorie intake when my day is done.
That'll harm your body in the long run... It would probably be best not to give this advice to other people.0 -
Because your weight is so high, you are probably one of the rare people who actually do build muscle on a calorie deficit. Since the gain is slight, I would probably attribute it to that. However, I will also be the first to tell you that there is no need to swim for more than 60 minutes at a time, unless you're refueling for longer bouts. People have this vision that swimmers are lean because of the long hours they spend in the pool. What they don't see is that many swimmers eat well over 5,000-8,000 calories a day too.
If you're swimming that long without any kind of protein refueling, then eventually you'll start to lose lean muscle tissue along with fat and you can lower your metabolic rate which will take you much longer to lose the weight you want. IMO, you should use the other 60 minutes to strength train to help retain what muscle you already have.
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No way to eating extra calories! I take in 1400 a day and that is it! I always have a negative calorie intake when my day is done.
Well then continue on the way you are going, because it sounds like you are set in your ways. You are not going to find anyone here to support that.
The fact is that you are not eating enough food to fuel your swimming so your body is holding on to every single bit of fat it can. And it's not healthy.0 -
No way to eating extra calories! I take in 1400 a day and that is it! I always have a negative calorie intake when my day is done.
Well then continue on the way you are going, because it sounds like you are set in your ways. You are not going to find anyone here to support that.
The fact is that you are not eating enough food to fuel your swimming so your body is holding on to every single bit of fat it can. And it's not healthy.
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Because your weight is so high, you are probably one of the rare people who actually do build muscle on a calorie deficit. Since the gain is slight, I would probably attribute it to that. However, I will also be the first to tell you that there is no need to swim for more than 60 minutes at a time, unless you're refueling for longer bouts. People have this vision that swimmers are lean because of the long hours they spend in the pool. What they don't see is that many swimmers eat well over 5,000-8,000 calories a day too.
If you're swimming that long without any kind of protein refueling, then eventually you'll start to lose lean muscle tissue along with fat and you can lower your metabolic rate which will take you much longer to lose the weight you want. IMO, you should use the other 60 minutes to strength train to help retain what muscle you already have.
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How many calories should I be taking in per day then? I'm getting mixed messages from MFP I guess. I'm told there to eat 1400 calories a day. Why eat all the calories back I just lost swimming? Seems counterproductive.0 -
Educate yourself. I mean that honestly, not in a mean way.
Your metabolism is more complex than just burning off or cutting calories... if it was that easy, everyone could be skinny.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/squishycow7/view/so-many-links-so-little-time-233614
I have a lot of links in that post that should explain things to you. Read #3 and #5 especially.0 -
Why do you feel I am set in my ways? That's not it at all. I didn't say anything to support that idea. I just answered a question.0
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How many calories should I be taking in per day then? I'm getting mixed messages from MFP I guess. I'm told there to eat 1400 calories a day. Why eat all the calories back I just lost swimming? Seems counterproductive.
Because you're already eating at a deficit, MFP calculates that for you already. Your body NEEDS energy; ever tried to run a car without fuel? It's the same thing.0 -
No way to eating extra calories! I take in 1400 a day and that is it! I always have a negative calorie intake when my day is done.
I am not sure if you heard this already but maybe increasing you calories by 150-200..say 1600 might get your body out if its rut
Maybe it thinks you are hitting a bit of starvation mode as you are really active.
I had to up my calories to 1600 as my body was not reacting as well to my weightloss norm of 1440. Things are going down....slower than before but I know its still good as I am working on weight training as well as cardio now.
remember Muscle is heavier than fat.....fed those muscles and they will love you back!
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How some of you are coming across is really condescending and judgemental. I'm just saying. I wouldn't have asked this question if I thought that I had it all figured out, hence the needing advice. I'm new to MFP. I've only been on here a month! I have lost 30 pounds thus far and that was encouraging to me obviously, but I'm trying to get past this rut.0
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Because if the calorie deficit is too high, then metabolically your body will slow down on energy consumption. That's just how human physiology works.Because your weight is so high, you are probably one of the rare people who actually do build muscle on a calorie deficit. Since the gain is slight, I would probably attribute it to that. However, I will also be the first to tell you that there is no need to swim for more than 60 minutes at a time, unless you're refueling for longer bouts. People have this vision that swimmers are lean because of the long hours they spend in the pool. What they don't see is that many swimmers eat well over 5,000-8,000 calories a day too.
If you're swimming that long without any kind of protein refueling, then eventually you'll start to lose lean muscle tissue along with fat and you can lower your metabolic rate which will take you much longer to lose the weight you want. IMO, you should use the other 60 minutes to strength train to help retain what muscle you already have.
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How many calories should I be taking in per day then? I'm getting mixed messages from MFP I guess. I'm told there to eat 1400 calories a day. Why eat all the calories back I just lost swimming? Seems counterproductive.
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No way to eating extra calories! I take in 1400 a day and that is it! I always have a negative calorie intake when my day is done.
I am not sure if you heard this already but maybe increasing you calories by 150-200..say 1600 might get your body out if its rut
Maybe it thinks you are hitting a bit of starvation mode as you are really active.
I had to up my calories to 1600 as my body was not reacting as well to my weightloss norm of 1440. Things are going down....slower than before but I know its still good as I am working on weight training as well as cardio now.
remember Muscle is heavier than fat.....fed those muscles and they will love you back!
Good luck girl!
Thank you so much for your help! That gives me a number to shoot for, which really helps! I lost those 30 pounds faster than I ever expected, I was shocked lol. I'm not trying to lose tons of weight fast, just lose in general. Thanks for your support, I truly appreciate it! 0 -
How some of you are coming across is really condescending and judgemental. I'm just saying. I wouldn't have asked this question if I thought that I had it all figured out, hence the needing advice. I'm new to MFP. I've only been on here a month! I have lost 30 pounds thus far and that was encouraging to me obviously, but I'm trying to get past this rut.
Sorry if I did
There's a lot to understand so it's just important to understand WHY as much as HOW weight is lost. Check out the links I gave you.
Don't let us mean forum-monsters get ya down.0 -
Could be muscles but really only if you were jumping into exercise for the very first time ("noob gains"). Those mucles might even just be retaining water, since when you're stressing them out they tend to hold on to water for repair purposes.
Could be youre not eating enough (I can't see your diary...) I know that's counter intuitive, but with huge burns like that it's important to fuel your body properly. Even if that's just a "spike day" once a week. Do a forum search for plateau busting, you'll see tons of people having success when they bump their calories (again I don't know what you're eating so I apologize if this is something you already know).
Could be youre not calculating your burns and your calories properly. could be underestimating food and overestimating burns, or any combo of that.
Could be your diet is under all your macros, but it's "crap." Try eating "real" food, nothing processed, and see if that helps push things along. Not to say you cant lose weight eating whatever at a deficit, but I've found that quality DOES matter.
Good luck I know you work hard!!
Edit - JUST saw your second post. Really, eat your exercise calories, at least half of them. Search the forums for people who do so, or have busted through plateaus by EATING MORE. It's not a joke. You don't have to eat all of them, but make sure your net calories are at least 1200ish so you're not starving. Your body will freak out and not cooperate.
Oh, okay! I didn't realize that I should still have a positive calorie in that, honest error lol. I had thought it just meant that I was losing more weight by the defecit, so that helps me out a lot! Thank you! And yes, I'm working VERY hard! 0 -
If your not eating your exercise cals back and are burning as much as you are, you may need to increase your calorie consumption by a few hundred. The idea is to NET the amount that you were given. If you are eating 1400, burning 700 your body is only living off of 700 cals for that day... You tend to burn A LOT of cals swimming, so you may need to increase your calorie consumption to make up for that.0
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Research BMR (basic metabolic rate} and TDEE . Your body needs, and burns calories to breath, heart beat, kidney function, and so on. This is your BMR. Your TDEE are the calories you burn on a normal day, with normal activities. So essentially, you need to net more than your BMR, and slightly less than your TDEE to lose weight in a slow and healthy way. That is one of the reasons to eat back your exercise calories. Having said that, IMHO, MFP grossly overestimates calorie burn in exercise. If you use the data base here for your calorie burn , I would take 20-30% off the top, before you eat those calories back.0
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