Help!! Exercising like crazy but scale ain't changing!! =(

RoosMommy01

Ok I know it's not impossible to lose weight because I've already lost 50lbs. The only thing I did in the beginning was cut out cokes and sweets and start exercising since all I ever did was eat and watch tv.

I get confused on the whole calorie stuff. Some people tell me to eat less calories and exercise and I'll lose but then I have ppl tell me that Im not eating nearly enough! I'm stuck at my current weight. The scale only goes up and down like a lb or two but that's it.

Any tips and advice would be greatly appreciated! I'm never hungry during the day so if I have to eat more than I'll force myself to do so. As far as exercising goes, I walk and do an exercising dvd Monday-Friday and sometimes Saturday. Sunday is always my rest day.

sthrnchick

I am by NO MEANS an expert... and sometimes still find myself confused... but here is what i do..and my journey.

I eat around 1300-2000 cals a day, trying to stick around 1500ish. I eat very little some days, and much more others- this is deliberent. I keep a close eye on my sodium intake, which is the one thing that i struggle daily with- its hidden in EVERYTHING we eat! I have way upped my protein and lowered my carbs.

As far as exercise... I am for 5-6 days a week of cardio- I recently took up running, which I have a love hate relationship with still... I aim for 45 minutes of cardio. I started lifting heavier weights about 5 weeks ago- AND I LOVE IT!! I lift 3 days/week. Very empowering and I think has made the biggest and quickest changes to my body.

I went 3 weeks without loosing a single ounce, and then on the 4th lost almost 5 lbs. Remember...just keep plugging along and eating right ( clean, as unprocessed as possible) and exercising-it will come off! Its a marathon not a sprint.

SteveTries

Based on the information you provided, which isn't a great deal but.......

I don't know what you weighed but lets say it was 250lbs.

A 250lbs person requires a certain level of calories to stay at 250lbs

By cutting out the things you did and adding in the exercise you created a calorie defecit. That is to say you didn't eat enough calories for your level of activity to stay at 50lbs.

After losing 50lbs you are now 200lbs

A 200lbs person requires less calories to maintain themselves than the 250lbs person you were before. So what was a deficit back at 250 could now be the maintenance level at 200.

Long story short, cut out a bit more of the food.

ChasityLindsey

Well, I am no expert either, but it looks like you do need to eat more. I also see you skip breakfast a lot. Also I would limit the amount of the frozen meals, because they are full of sodium.

RipperSB

Well, I'm a bit of a noob myself (logged in for 90 days now) but what I do is to stick to the calorie goal that MFP defined for me which is 1560. I walk the dog daily (35 min long walk in the morning is the only one I log as exercise and then head to the gym Mon- Fri for 35 mins of cardio - elliptical, bike or treadmill). That usually gains me 300-400 extra calories (yippeee, snack time!), so between 1860-1960. I always have at least 1200 net calories and, as I said, stay below the upper limit. Progress on the ticker speaks for itself. Cheers.

sthrnchick

I eat six times a day... and try to cook as much REAL food as possible... I stay clear of the frozen dinners...they are a KILLER in the sodium department!

RoosMommy01

Yeah I've been extremely busy the last week or 2 in the morning so I found myself skipping breakfast but I'm normally really good at eating it. I just started those meals because I had a lady tell me that they were good to eat a week or 2 out of the month but I'm going to switch back to my other food that I usually eat.

I've also just started weight lifting and I can tell from clothes and appearance that my figure is changing so I guess I need to quit looking at the scale so much and just concentrate on my work out schedule...it just gets annoying seeing the same dang number time and time again.

artbkward

I'm certainly no expert but it looks like you need to eat more. You are allowed ~1500 calories per day and are burning upwards of 700+ on alot of days which means you need to eat about 2200 on a day where you work out that much.

That ~1500 that MFP gives you already has a deficit built in to accomodate your weight loss goal. When you burn 700 calories, you should eat an additional 700 calories that day that is what people mean when they say "eat back their calories". Personally, I try to each back about 1/2 to 2/3 of what I burn off to accomodate for underestimating.

Also- DO NOT SKIP BREAKFAST

For instance, yesterday you only ate 1077 calories! That isn't enough even if you just sit on your couch all day but additionally you burned 775 so you NEED to eat more. The exercise made your goal 2305 calories. That may seem like it will help you lose faster, but it won't. Your body needs fuel!

RoosMommy01

See that's where I always get confused because I've had people tell me before that for instance if I eat 1,200 a day then I need to put at least that much in exercise before I would lose any weight. It made sense to me because it's like you are burning off everything you put in your mouth for that day...but now I'm seeing that I need to eat more to refuel my body from the day's work I put it through.

Thanks for the info and tips..looks like I'll be getting more food when I grocery shop tonight. *L*

artbkward

See that's where I always get confused because I've had people tell me before that for instance if I eat 1,200 a day then I need to put at least that much in exercise before I would lose any weight. It made sense to me because it's like you are burning off everything you put in your mouth for that day...but now I'm seeing that I need to eat more to refuel my body from the day's work I put it through.

OMG NO! Your body burns 2000 (give or take based on size, gender etc) a day if you do absolutely nothing. It burns calories by doing things like digesting food and pumping blood. If you don't eat enough, your body thinks it is starving and desperately holds on to the few calories you give it making it much hard to lose. Search for "starvation mode" in the topics and you'll see tons and tons of examples.

This is why MFP tells you to eat ~1500 calories before working out. By eating ~1500 and your body naturally burning about 2000, you are creating a 500 calorie per day deficit that will lead to weight loss. If you burn more by working out, then you have to eat more.

bradthemedic

I never skip meals... ever. I eat what seems like 20 hours a day. I think this is helping a huge amount in itself.

sleepytexan

Living With Obesity At 700 Calories Per Day!
By: David Greenwalt

I want you to consider a common female client. She's a woman about 5'5" and 185 pounds. A combination of a mostly sedentary lifestyle, quick-fix, processed foods and consistent excessively low calories has resulted in an incredibly stubborn fat loss scenario. Not only has it created a stubborn fat loss scenario but her ability to add body fat is remarkably strong.

Most would believe there is simply no possible way she could be 185 pounds eating mostly low calories. While it's true the average obese American created their own obesity by being a huge over consumer, a sedentary glutton if you will, many are able to maintain their level of obesity with the following formula in very precise ratios: starvation + binges + sedentary lifestyle.

An initial review of this woman's calories indicates she is just above starvation level in the 400-700 per day range. The food choices are mostly protein in this case (low-carb is all the rage you know) and there are virtually no vegetables or fruits to speak of.

Five or six days per week the calories remain low in this range, however, there are nighttime binges from time to time and weekend binges where carbs loaded with fat (doughnuts, rolls, cookies, pizza etc.) are consumed.

So while the calories are very low the majority of the time, there are one to two days per week where this isn't always the case. Even so, the nighttime binges and weekend slack offs don't amount to what you might presume would be thousands of extra calories, thus explaining the 185-pound body weight.

Very few foods are prepared from home. There are lots of fast foods being consumed. Convenience and taste rule.

I must say. Early on in my coaching and teaching career this woman was a real head scratcher for me. Isn't it calories in and calories out? Even if she's not active she's starving!

How in the heck does she stay at 185 eating an average, including all binges, of maybe 750 calories per day? She's frustrated beyond belief. She sees her friends and coworkers eating more and weighing less. Is she simply unlucky? Is everyone else blessed? And what in the world is she supposed to do to fix this, if it can be fixed?


Why Is She Not Losing Weight?


First, let me tell you why she's not losing weight. Then I'll tell you what she has to do to fix the situation. With a chronic (months and months) intake of less than 1000 calories per day and a 185-pound body weight her metabolism is suffering greatly. It's running cool, not hot. It's basically running at a snail's pace.

Think of it this way. Her metabolism has matched itself to her intake. She could, indeed, lose body fat but she's in that gray area where she is eating too few calories but not quite at the concentration-camp level yet.

If she were to consume 100-300 calories per day her body would have virtually no choice but to begin liberating stored body fat. This is NOT the solution. It's unhealthy and, in fact, quite stupid.


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Not only has her metabolism matched her intake, her body has maximized production of enzymes that are designed to help store any additional calories as fat. Anytime additional, immediately-unnecessary calories are consumed the enzymes are there and waiting to store the additional calories as fat. Her body is starved nutritionally and it has one thing on its mind - survival.

Being mostly sedentary, her metabolism (hormones play a large role here) can do a pretty good job of keeping things slow enough so that the pathetically low calories she's consuming are just enough to maintain.

But since certain enzymes are elevated, waiting for more calories so more bodyfat can be stored, every nighttime binge or weekend mini-feast will contribute to fat stores.

So on the days she's not bingeing her body does not lose fat, or if it does, it's very little. And on the few days or times she does binge a bit her body is quite efficient at storing fat. So, while she may lose a smidge of fat from starving it is quickly replaced with every binge.

Remember, these binges aren't a gluttonous 4000-calorie feast. Oh no, a binge might be 4-5 cookies worth about 500-700 calories. Nevertheless, since the binge foods are mostly carbs and fat it's very easy for the enzymes to shuttle the dietary fat into stored body fat. It's what they were designed to do.


So, What's The Solution?


Well then, now that we presumably know some valid reasons why she's not seeing a scale change and definitely no body fat change how do we fix her? We have to do something she's going to freak out over.

We have to get her eating more. Not only do we have to get her eating more but more of the right, whole foods need to be eaten. Foods lower in fat that aren't as easily STORED as body fat have to be consumed. And we have to warn her.

A Discouraging Start


We have to warn her that since she's been sedentarily living on protein with binges of carbs and fats she is likely to see a weight gain right away. It's true.
Once we begin really feeding her body with nutritious carbohydrates so she can become more active, her glycogen-depleted body will hang on to some of those carbohydrates (in skeletal muscle and liver) so she has stored energy for activity.

When her body hangs on to those carbohydrates it has no choice but to hang on to more water too. For every gram of glycogen (stored carbs) she stores she'll hang on to three grams of water.

This is not a negative response by the body but it will be interpreted by her as quite negative when she steps on the scale.

It's quite likely she'll see a five to seven pound weight gain when she really starts eating properly again. This weight gain will remain for one to three weeks before it starts moving in the other direction.

For argument's sake let's assume my Calorie Calculator and Goal Setter at Club Lifestyle suggests a 1500-calorie per day average in week one for a one-pound loss per week. First, she is going to freak out about this many calories.

For months she's been eating less than 1000 and usually around 400-700 in one to three feedings total per day. To her 1500 calories is a ton of food. And if she even begins to eat less fast and packaged-foods it will be a ton of food.

There is no doubt whatsoever that she will resist the increase. This resistance may take one to three weeks to overcome. During this period no weight loss will occur. She is too fat already in her mind and believes it will only hurt her to increase her food intake.

I mean, after all, isn't that how she got fat to begin with? In her early stages of fat gain this was probably true. She overconsumed. But as I've said already, that's not why she's staying heavy.

In addition to a freaked-out mindset about adding more food to her already overfat body she will simply find that it's all but impossible to eat four or more times per day.

She's just not hungry at first. Makes sense when you think about it. Why would she be hungry three hours after eating a 300-calorie, balanced breakfast? Her body is used to 400-700 calories per day!

So, even though she gets a plan and begins using my nutrition analyzer to log foods and meals she finds after having a balanced breakfast of 250 calories she couldn't force herself to eat meal number two on time.

It'll take several more days of realizing what is going on and being one-hundred percent honest and diligent with her logging and planning before she begins to eat her meals as planned no matter what - even if she's not hungry.

By now two to four weeks have passed and the only thing she's seen on the scale is it going up--not very encouraging if I say so myself.

Raising The Grade


After the first two to four weeks have passed she's probably beginning to consume her meals as planned although not quite like an "A" student yet. That is coming. She feels better because she's working out and is more active.
And she feels like she has more energy throughout the day because she's feeding her body more calories and the right kinds of calories.

She has finally begun eating the right kinds of fast foods (low in fat, moderate in protein) and less packaged food overall. She is making more meals from home and taking them to work for lunch rather than always grabbing something quick from a vending machine or the break room that always has some treat another employee brought in.

After another two weeks or so she's moved from a "B" grade to more consistent "A"s. She's planning her days one day ahead in the Nutrition Analyzer; she's consuming fresh veggies and fruits on a daily basis.

Her calories are almost ALWAYS in line with what is recommended by my Lean Account and she has seen her first signs of the scale moving in the right direction.

She is now dropping from 190 pounds (her high after reintroducing food and carbohydrates again) to 189.3! "Progress at last!" she says. In actuality, the entire process was progress. But that's not how she saw it in the beginning.






With a total of two to four weeks of increased caloric intake behind her and eating more consistently the right kinds of foods her metabolism has truly begun to rebound.

She didn't kill it as she thought. She only wounded it. And since our metabolisms are like kids (they are quite resilient) and she doesn't have thyroid issues or diabetes or any known wrench that could be thrown into the spokes of fat loss, she will begin, for the first time in months or years, to see results that make sense and that one would expect of someone who is active (30-60 minutes five or more days per week) and consuming a caloric intake of 1300-1500 calories per day.


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Avoiding Sabotage


This process is in no way easy. I think you can see a plethora of ways it could be screwed up, sabotaged, given up on too early and so forth.
A key to success for this very common woman (men too) is not giving up too soon, having faith in the fix, and moving sooner rather than later to the increased, quality food intake.

It's going to take effort to overcome the mental hurdles of eating more food as well as the increase in scale weight that is going to occur in weeks one to three or so. It's disheartening, however, to charge hard down the weight-loss field only to get to the one-yard line and decide it's time to quit.



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Many don't realize they only had one more yard to go and they'd have had a touchdown. You gotta hang in there with this plan. It's going to take some time for the glycogen levels to be replenished and level out. It's going to take some time for mental adjustments to occur.
It's going to take some time before hunger signals are restored to anything close to normal. It's going to take time for the metabolism to rebound and not be in its protective mode.

Giving A Stubborn Body The Message


In certain, very stubborn cases, it may be necessary to eat at a eucaloric (maintenance) or hypercaloric (over maintenance) level for a few weeks to ensure the metabolism does get the signal that everything is alright and you aren't going to kill the body.
Remember, your body could care less about your desire for fat loss. It just wants to survive.


Some Take-Home Points



The most common cause of obesity is Americans are sedentary overeaters/drinkers. Nothing in this article should be construed as to say that under eating is the root cause of obesity. It's not.

It IS common for many men and women to be under eating with sporadic binges as I described here. This creates a perfect environment for continued obesity even if total caloric intake is quite low on average.

Low-carb followers or "starvers" WILL see the scale go up when calories are consumed at reasonable levels again and carbohydrates are reintroduced. Live with it. Deal with it. It's going to happen. 98% of the gain will be water.

The time it takes for mental acceptance and other adjustments to occur will vary but one should expect a two to four week window for these things to take place. Being forewarned with an article like this may speed this process up some.

Once the right types of foods are consumed and the right caloric intake is consumed and the right ratios of carbohydrates, proteins and fats are consumed on a consistent basis, then, and only then, will metabolism begin to be restored and the key to fat loss be inserted into the lock with a noticeable drop in the scale resulting.
This may take an additional two to four weeks to occur. Your metabolism is never dead or broken for good. But it may take several weeks of proper eating and activity for it to be restored.


From day one, until the first, noticeable drop in the scale occurs may be four to six weeks--maybe one to two weeks longer. Those who give up on the one-yard line will never see the scale drop as will occur when intelligent persistence and consistency over time are adhered to.
David Greenwalt

sandrahermione

Thank you for this. Finally I know why my overweight friend would forever be eating half of what I did. She would say that my food levels would one day make me her weight. Scary. Twenty years later I had fallen into the over eaters with longterm indigestion. Changing slowly at 1650kcal is doing me the world of good. Last year I lost fast, regained faster and since then every excess seems to stick fast. I was on my way to becoming that woman.
Your explanation makes since and describes common psychological issues very well.

Aleara2012

Based on the information you provided, which isn't a great deal but.......

I don't know what you weighed but lets say it was 250lbs.

A 250lbs person requires a certain level of calories to stay at 250lbs

By cutting out the things you did and adding in the exercise you created a calorie defecit. That is to say you didn't eat enough calories for your level of activity to stay at 50lbs.

After losing 50lbs you are now 200lbs

A 200lbs person requires less calories to maintain themselves than the 250lbs person you were before. So what was a deficit back at 250 could now be the maintenance level at 200.

Long story short, cut out a bit more of the food.

I respectfully disagree Somebody who is eating between 900 and 1300 calories a day and exersising 6 days a week is eating very little already IMO (did you check OP's diary?)

Thomakk

Wow! Eat more....eat less...what to do.

I think the real point is to make a change. If you've been working through the same exercise routines for a long time, it may be time to give your body a change.

Mix things up. If you've been walking, try a bike, weights, stairs, just something different. If you're consistenly high in carbs, fat, sodium, etc, increase your veggies....you get my point.

I didn't look at your diary, but doubling my water from 8 to 16 has made a world of difference for me.