cut out grains (not all carbs) and WOW

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  • Greg127
    Greg127 Posts: 100 Member
    I follow no specific "diet" but I have found that by cutting out the complex carbs including rice, milk, breads, pasta etc... I feel better and can maintain weight loss easier. I substitue Unsweetened Vanilla Almond milk (35 cals/cup) for dairy, I eat eggs, cashews, vegan protein shakes, lean steaks (sirloin), fresh vegatables and a salad every day.

    Flour, any kind, potatoes, rice, breads are all like crack to me. Once I start I can't stop. So I try hard to stay away from them. Not saying I don't partake in a piece of cake at birthdays but it's usually a small piece.

    I watch my cholesteral, sodium and keep by carbs are 150 a day.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    I believe that the reason people are doing well on this is actully due to a food allergies. If you are allergic to these foods your body will respond to this differently. If you are not allergic you will not notice a difference.

    hmmmm...well I was once tested for allergies ( a whole bunch) not sure if grains was among them but I wasnt allergic to anything and I have never felt any adverse effects from grains, but who knows? maybe
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    I believe that the reason people are doing well on this is actully due to a food allergies. If you are allergic to these foods your body will respond to this differently. If you are not allergic you will not notice a difference.

    hmmmm...well I was once tested for allergies ( a whole bunch) not sure if grains was among them but I wasnt allergic to anything and I have never felt any adverse effects from grains, but who knows? maybe

    It's also possible that you have some sort of intolerance that isn't visible with an allergy test. It's also possible that it's placebo (doubt it) but either way, you should obviously continue doing it since it's making you feel great.
  • olong
    olong Posts: 255 Member
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  • stroken96
    stroken96 Posts: 436 Member
    Where do you get your fiber?
    I have been doing the same for a week now and feel great.
  • rheelizabeth
    rheelizabeth Posts: 160 Member
    At first I thought you cut out grains and World of Warcraft.

    hahahah this!
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Where do you get your fiber?
    I have been doing the same for a week now and feel great.

    I still eat carbs...fruit (limited but I eat fruit) and vegetables like broccoli, spinach, celery, And nuts...almonds and pisatchios mainly
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Where do you get your fiber?
    I have been doing the same for a week now and feel great.

    I still eat carbs...fruit (limited but I eat fruit) and vegetables like broccoli, spinach, celery, And nuts...almonds and pisatchios mainly


    What was your average change in intake when you eliminated grains and replaced them with meats/fats? You're likely going to end up with a lower carb intake overall, and a higher p/f intake. Curious about this only because there's a reasonable chance that the weight loss is from the above changes and not necessarily the elimination of grains. Could also make you feel differently depending on how your total fat intake increased due to this change.

    To be clear, I'm asking because it interests me, not because I wish to challenge your elimination of grains.
  • kaji13
    kaji13 Posts: 172 Member
    I cut out eating grains 20 days ago, yes, even oatmeal, and am really amazed at the difference. I have more energy, sleep better and a few stubborn pounds are gone. Also with cutting grains, I have more calories available for steak and fish. Are these improvements all due to cutting out grains? Well, I havn't really changed anything else and I was eating pretty clean before cutting them out. I am eating more protein foods like meat and fish. I use to eat oatmeal on a regular basis, sprouted grain breads (ezekial), whole wheat tortillas, hamburger buns, etc.

    I am not suggesting anyone do this, I know there are those who consider grains a required food group (it really isn't) but I don't see or feel a downside and only positives so far. Do I miss them? It is a bit inconvenient as I like making hamburgers and skipping the hamburger bun changes the experience and I love carne asada tacos...but eventually I will still eat an occasional bun or taco.

    Give it a try for 21 days and see if you feel better.

    This is pretty much exactly what I did. I cut out almost all breads/pastas and most grains and I feel SO much better. My energy is way up as well, I almost never crash halfway through the day. Sure I'll occasionally indulge in a bowl of mac & cheese or a handful of doritos, but a year ago almost my entire diet was pasta and bagels and pizza and cereal. Major, major improvement on my life, and I lost 30lbs doing this!
  • yummummum
    yummummum Posts: 257
    I cut out grains also and WOW for me too!!! It was EXACTLY the difference I needed to finally feel good and lose weight!

    I had surgery recently and let them back in (except for wheat/gluten) and let me tell you, I do NOT feel as good!

    Have you heard of eating paleo/primal? It is basically a diet without grains based around protein and veggies and fruit.
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz1vJzqHqai
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Where do you get your fiber?
    I have been doing the same for a week now and feel great.

    I still eat carbs...fruit (limited but I eat fruit) and vegetables like broccoli, spinach, celery, And nuts...almonds and pisatchios mainly


    What was your average change in intake when you eliminated grains and replaced them with meats/fats? You're likely going to end up with a lower carb intake overall, and a higher p/f intake. Curious about this only because there's a reasonable chance that the weight loss is from the above changes and not necessarily the elimination of grains. Could also make you feel differently depending on how your total fat intake increased due to this change.

    To be clear, I'm asking because it interests me, not because I wish to challenge your elimination of grains.

    Yes...cutting the grains was a significant percentage of my total carbs. I increased vegetables some to keep getting carbs but find it hard to eat that many vegetables to account for the grain decrease.

    I havnt totally analyzed my macro changes yet, but to replace the grain/carb calories I did up the fat more than the protein. I was already at what I think is a decent protein level. ( about 1 gram per pound of LBM) I now go over that a bit. But the bigger increase was in fats. More red meat and alot more nuts (not peanuts)
  • For many of us, grains and carbs from those grains create inflamation. Take them out of your diet, and WOW!!! Things start to happen quickly!! I do not eat any carbs from processed foods. My only source of carbs comes from vegetables. When I eat like this, I feel great, lose weight, have energy, have better cognitive skills... it works for me. My results at the doctor also tell me that I am on the right track. After a while, you get used to eating without the help of bread to hold your meats. And, you do not even miss it. If I eat processed carbs or too much fruit, I bet brain fog, hot flashes, and bags under my eyes. I stay away from carbs. No matter what anyone says, this works for me. People tell me that my body needs carbs, but when I eat them, I gain weight QUICKLY, feel like crap, and lose motivation. So, for me, it is the carbs that come from vegetables onnly.
  • kaji13
    kaji13 Posts: 172 Member
    is it a healthy thing to do for long term?............ When you start eating carbs again, if you have, did you gain back the weight or inches lost?

    I've been doing this for the better part of a year. I don't completely deprive myself of carbs - I will eat a piece of pizza occasionally (I just love love love pizza) or a bowl of cereal or something on occasion, but it's not a regular part of my diet anymore. So long as I stay within my daily calorie intake, I haven't gained any weight when I indulge, but it does sometimes effect my energy level. Those kinds of carbs just aren't good for me, I've found. If I have pasta now, I make sure it's whole grain, or if I have rice, it's brown rice, but I only eat these things MAYBE once a week, or less, and in small quantities.
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    Yes...cutting the grains was a significant percentage of my total carbs. I increased vegetables some to keep getting carbs but find it hard to eat that many vegetables to account for the grain decrease.

    I havnt totally analyzed my macro changes yet, but to replace the grain/carb calories I did up the fat more than the protein. I was already at what I think is a decent protein level. ( about 1 gram per pound of LBM) I now go over that a bit. But the bigger increase was in fats. More red meat and alot more nuts (not peanuts)

    It would be an interesting experiment to re-introduce grains but keep your macro intake the same as it is NOW (post-grain-elimination). You would then get a better idea as to whether or it was the grain removal or the change in macro intake.

    I'm not saying you should do it because clearly you're happy with what you've got right now, but the above would be good information :)
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Yes...cutting the grains was a significant percentage of my total carbs. I increased vegetables some to keep getting carbs but find it hard to eat that many vegetables to account for the grain decrease.

    I havnt totally analyzed my macro changes yet, but to replace the grain/carb calories I did up the fat more than the protein. I was already at what I think is a decent protein level. ( about 1 gram per pound of LBM) I now go over that a bit. But the bigger increase was in fats. More red meat and alot more nuts (not peanuts)

    It would be an interesting experiment to re-introduce grains but keep your macro intake the same as it is NOW (post-grain-elimination). You would then get a better idea as to whether or it was the grain removal or the change in macro intake.

    I'm not saying you should do it because clearly you're happy with what you've got right now, but the above would be good information :)

    ya...I agree. My conclusion that eliminating grains has caused my changes is flawed since there were those other changes.
  • Klamber26
    Klamber26 Posts: 212
    At first I cut out grains, potato products, rice, and oatmeal. I felt like a zombie all day so I added back in oatmeal, whole grains, and brown rice. Much better energy levels for me. As for weight loss, well I haven't really lost any in a long time even though I'm supposed to be losing 0.5 lb per week--but that was on both diets. My macro levels have been 40%, 40%, 20% regardless of whether I eat grains or not.
  • jb_2011
    jb_2011 Posts: 1,029 Member
    Just this past week I've started lowering carbs by greatly reducing grains, breads, potatoes, rice and pasta. I'm aiming for 50-60 net carbs (which is carb count minus fiber). I get fiber from beans, nuts, seeds, lots of vegs and leafy greens. Breakfast is a little yogurt, half an apple, a handful of walnuts and tablespoon of ground flaxseed. Mid-morning I usually have an egg with cheese. At lunch I have a giant salad with tuna or beans or chicken and maybe a little feta, evoo and balsamic vinegar dressing. Dinner is usually grilled lean meat and vegs, and we always have a starch, too, but that's where I'm really trying to cut back. Baked potatoes, rice, pasta all go so well at dinner time, but I hear that's the worst time of day to eat those carbs if you're going to eat them at all. This week we had tacos, and I do love corn tortillas, let me tell you. But I bit the bullet and used 3 leaves of romaine lettuce for the taco shells, which worked wonderfully. It's all about making little changes, I think, and watching carb count closely. Be sure to get plenty of fiber. The big bad carbs aren't good for me, but I'll allow myself a tiny bit now and then.
  • tinytemple
    tinytemple Posts: 87 Member
    I used to do this and truly believed in a seriously low carb diet and sugar-free diet, thinking I was getting enough carbs from vegetables. I stuck to it religiously for months and lost weight.
    Then one day I hosted a BBQ party at my house and decided to treat myself and ate some bread and sweet desert. My stomach swelled up and I was in some much agony I had to make myself sick. From that point I lost control over sugars and started a continual battle of avoiding carbs and sugars and then binging on them... this led to a serious eating disorder which I still struggle with.
    Sorry for sounding all dramatic but I am quite passionate about this subject. Some people are more suseptable to sugar than others, just like any intolerance, and obviously cutting out certain foods is really beneficial for some people.
    Ultimately I would just like to advise moderation and common sense. Don't just eliminate whole foods groups on a whim and focus on enjoying variety, for example, I know that too much wheat makes me very tired and sugar triggers me to binge eat so I try to stick with wholegrain brown rice and quinoa as my grains:)
  • PixelTreason
    PixelTreason Posts: 226 Member
    At first I thought you cut out grains and World of Warcraft.

    dont know what World of Warcraft is. Does it need cutting out?

    For some people the removal of World of Warcraft will result in weight loss through increased NEAT and sometimes EAT, unless they played it while on a treadmill.

    (It's abbreviated WoW, and any world of warcraft player will read your title and make this connection).


    Glad your grain elimination was successful.


    Oddly enough, when I was playing WoW I LOST a ton of weight. I just wouldn't get up to eat. I think I lived on cereal and granola bars for 2 years.
  • LiftBigtoGetFit
    LiftBigtoGetFit Posts: 3,399 Member
    I have also cut out most sugar, grains and pastas. I still eat them occasionally, but nothing like i used to. most of my weight loss can be attributed to this change. i replace these foods with more veggies, fruit, protein. like i said i still eat them some just not as much as before, i.e. no more toast with eggs, no more spaghetti/mac n cheese/other pasta dishes every day, no more sandwiches for lunch every day. this was a big change for me, but something i needed to do to get my calorie intake under control.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,220 Member
    To me it sounds like you're on the Paleo Diet - no grains, pasta, rice, etc. I have been thinking more and more to give it a try for 30 days because I have a few friends who say after being on the Paleo Diet they have more energy, sleep better and lots of other positive things. Have nothing to lose but weight anyway so why not try it?!?

    hmmm...well I dont know if they allow milk and cheese and I love both and still eat both.

    Oh yeah, I forgot about dairy. No, they don't allow dairy on the diet either.
    Yes you have to watch out for the "they" people.......they have spies also, so be careful.
  • spngebobmyhero
    spngebobmyhero Posts: 823 Member
    I have been doing this since January. I eat occasional corn and white rice, but its like once every week (as in one or the other, not both once a week). I've maintained gluten free, because that bothers my stomach to no end.

    The weight loss is great, but the way I feel is even better. I have more energy, my gut is happy, and I'm happier. I used to have fatigue all the time, and this has mostly gone away.

    Congrats on feeling awesome :)
  • Toddrific
    Toddrific Posts: 1,114 Member
    At first I thought you cut out grains and World of Warcraft.

    dont know what World of Warcraft is. Does it need cutting out?

    For some people the removal of World of Warcraft will result in weight loss through increased NEAT and sometimes EAT, unless they played it while on a treadmill.

    (It's abbreviated WoW, and any world of warcraft player will read your title and make this connection).


    Glad your grain elimination was successful.


    Oddly enough, when I was playing WoW I LOST a ton of weight. I just wouldn't get up to eat. I think I lived on cereal and granola bars for 2 years.

    WoW helped me quit smoking, I couldn't be bothered to go outside =P

    ---
    On subject, I am glad that it worked for you. As someone mentioned earlier I would try reintroducing them occasionally (for your burgers and tacos) but keep your macros the same and see if you can get by on that. It would truly suck not to have grains for the rest of your life.
  • autumnk921
    autumnk921 Posts: 1,374 Member
    bump for later
  • sweetnlow30
    sweetnlow30 Posts: 497 Member
    bump for later :)
    I am really interested in this way of eating since my stomach bloats up like a balloon when ever I eat white pasta or bread. It is especially hard to make this change since I have a family to feed and they are all a healthy weight and are not one bit interested in a grain free lifestyle LOL. I am a bit of a salty carb addict too.
  • iris8pie
    iris8pie Posts: 224 Member
    Ive cut out grains for the better part of 3 weeks and am totally amazed at how much better I feel....I used to have terrible gas...its decreased dramatically.
  • veerichie
    veerichie Posts: 214 Member
    Interesting. I would love to try this but as others have said it would be really hard! A nutritionist I used to work with once told me that it's hard on a humans digestive system to eat too many grains or base so much of their diet on grain consumption. This is also why grass fed beef is better for cows than corn fed. Also, you said you are a meat lover... do you eat grass or corn fed? ( Just curios)

    I used to work at a natural food store so I've heard a lot about people eliminating items from their diet. I know that this isn't the exact same thing as gluten free (which is eliminating all wheat / wheat protein foods, but still consuming other grains) but I know people who have tried gluten free by choice and they said they felt like they gained a ton of energy, better skin, and of course lost a few pounds.

    I think your post has maybe nudged me a little to try eliminating grain and/or wheat from my diet for a short period of time.
  • caraiselite
    caraiselite Posts: 2,631 Member
    excellent!
    a lot of people eat way too many grains/carbs anyway.
  • caraiselite
    caraiselite Posts: 2,631 Member
    At first I thought you cut out grains and World of Warcraft.

    dont know what World of Warcraft is. Does it need cutting out?

    For some people the removal of World of Warcraft will result in weight loss through increased NEAT and sometimes EAT, unless they played it while on a treadmill.

    (It's abbreviated WoW, and any world of warcraft player will read your title and make this connection).


    Glad your grain elimination was successful.


    Oddly enough, when I was playing WoW I LOST a ton of weight. I just wouldn't get up to eat. I think I lived on cereal and granola bars for 2 years.

    i thought wow too!

    if i lived on cereal and granola bars i'd gain weight!
  • onikonor
    onikonor Posts: 473 Member
    If you are consuming around 50 grams of carbs or less you are probably going through ketosis which is great for fat reduction. When our bodies don't have much carbs to burn they produce ketones that burn fat for energy instead.

    You will know if your body is producing ketones if your pee smells (even though you are well hydrated).