How do you eat low fat & low carb

Hanni

and still make your daily calories goal? :huh:

Doc suggested I try eating low fat and low carb for a while and I tell you I am struggling here.
I am on 125g carbs and 35g fat per day. But even with trying my best and thinking of all the food I can eat, I dont make it to 1200 calories. Only if I go over on carbs or fat then I can get to 1200 calories. :frown:

Any suggestions please?

kpnuts23

Meat

Salmon, Fish of any type really.. as long as its not deep fried...
Prawns, Chicken, Lean meat )
Eggs, Mix in Almonds if your not reaching your goal for Fat intake.. FRUIT!! Veggies... Drink Milk..

Porridge? lol im tying to think of the things i eat.. look at my diary if you want?

Hanni

:sick: meat bleagh no.

Only eat salmon and that is high in fat too. :ohwell:
I will have a look at your diary thanks for the tip!

fanta014

I seem to never reach my fat or carbs levels.. but I go over on protein and sugar rather often. You won't get much out of checking my food diary out since there are some things in Finnish, but.. check it out if you want to

Anyways, some things that come into my mind are rye bread (perhaps with some low-fat cheese, turkey, ham, low-fat cottage cheese, and of course some tomato or cucumber or sweet pepper) and, like it's been said, porridge. Vegetables are so good! Of course, they don't add up to much in your calorie intake but have LOTS of them, that's only good for you

Hmm.. what else... I can't come up with anything else right now. Maybe you should take a look at the Scarsdale diet, it's both low-fat and low-carb and maybe you could get ideas of it. Here's some website of it (I haven't really looked into it, so.. just trying to offer you ideas )

http://www.scarsdale-diet.com/

Hanni

Thank you fanta for the link. i have never heard of this diet before, I will have look :happy:

BrenNew

Meat

Salmon, Fish of any type really.. as long as its not deep fried...
Prawns, Chicken, Lean meat )
Eggs, Mix in Almonds if your not reaching your goal for Fat intake.. FRUIT!! Veggies... Drink Milk..

Porridge? lol im tying to think of the things i eat.. look at my diary if you want?

I've heard you mention "prawns" before. What are they?

SHBoss1673

Meat

Salmon, Fish of any type really.. as long as its not deep fried...
Prawns, Chicken, Lean meat )
Eggs, Mix in Almonds if your not reaching your goal for Fat intake.. FRUIT!! Veggies... Drink Milk..

Porridge? lol im tying to think of the things i eat.. look at my diary if you want?

I've heard you mention "prawns" before. What are they?

prawns are shrimp.

Wait, you don't like most meat? Well, that's interesting, low fat AND low carb is not a good combination in MHO. I guess there would be some specific conditions that would cause a Dietitian to recommend that, but I would think it would need to be a very specific reasoning, did your doctor tell you why he/she wanted you to be both low carb and low fat? The reason I say that is generally because when you go low carb, fat tends to take the place of some carbs as your energy source (either that or protein, and if that's the case you need to eat extra protein in your diet).

Are you sure your doctor didn't mean low carb and low SATURATED fats? That would make much more sense in my opinion. Remember, many GP doctors don't have the training to recommend nutritional intake to patients, be wary of you GP's recommendations on nutrition, not saying your doctor is wrong, just saying that many times, they are less well educated in that respect than we may be lead to believe. Maybe it's time to go to a registered Dietitian, they are specifically trained for this type of advice. Again, I don't know your doctor, or their background, so he/she may have a perfectly valid reasoning, but just saying, make sure there is a reason, not just cuz it sounds good to them.

kpnuts23

As SHBoss said.. Shrimp.. Soooo Yummy.. Especially the Large ones!! Great food!! :happy:

BrenNew

As SHBoss said.. Shrimp.. Soooo Yummy.. Especially the Large ones!! Great food!! :happy:

Oh, thanks! I love shrimp, just never heard em called prawns before! :laugh:

kpnuts23

As SHBoss said.. Shrimp.. Soooo Yummy.. Especially the Large ones!! Great food!! :happy:

Oh, thanks! I love shrimp, just never heard em called prawns before! :laugh:

LOL.. How random!! I do actually find that with a lot of foods - USA one thing UK the other.. sometimes makes the food diary a little hard at times!

TCASMEY

I would also look at the South Beach Diet. Very similar to Atkins but also stresses eating lower fat meats.

We use a lot of Turkey. Fish is good. Lots and lots of veggies. But watch the veggies some are high in carbs.

Not sure how your Dr. figures carbs, but on Atkins and South Beach it is net carbs you need to look at. Net carbs is grams of carbs minus the grams of fiber.

Example 1 cup broccoli =

41 calories
7 carbs
4 protien
5 fiber

7-5=2

Broccoli has net carb of 2 grams.

Hanni

We tried for a baby for a while and nothing happened so saw a specialist gynaecologist.
He found out I have PCO and am therefore being treated with medication now and doc also said to reduce carbs and fat and up protein.

He said to start at 40% carbs and go lower bit by bit if no improvement shows.

He said to balance my protein and carb intake as well. Has to do with insulin if I remember right.

I ate alot of carbs before, so I can see why that was bad now. I still plan on having the occasional brown bread/pasta but need to reduce the amounts alot and am running out of ideas what to use to reach my daily calories. :ohwell: I am vegetarian as well, and have gone back to eating salmon now for the protein and calories. Not happy. And there is no way I will go back to eating meat. :sick:

It is so difficult :frown:

stormieweather

I'm not clear on how PCO is related to insulin. But carbs do affect insulin because carbs are converted to sugar by our bodies easier and faster than fat and protein are. Simple carbs are converted the fastest so eating a lot can cause blood sugar spikes which in turn, affects your body's insulin production. Complex carbs take longer to convert and carbs with fiber can further reduce the conversion speed..

I am limiting my carbs (for blood sugar reasons) as well as fat. It is a struggle to meet my calories and not go over. I usually do go over a bit on fat if I make my calorie quota...oh well.

Shrimp, eggs, tofu, artichokes, low fat/fat free cheese, turkey, and complex carbs such as whole grains (lots of fiber to slow that coversion process).

SHBoss1673

We tried for a baby for a while and nothing happened so saw a specialist gynaecologist.
He found out I have PCO and am therefore being treated with medication now and doc also said to reduce carbs and fat and up protein.

He said to start at 40% carbs and go lower bit by bit if no improvement shows.

He said to balance my protein and carb intake as well. Has to do with insulin if I remember right.

I ate alot of carbs before, so I can see why that was bad now. I still plan on having the occasional brown bread/pasta but need to reduce the amounts alot and am running out of ideas what to use to reach my daily calories. :ohwell: I am vegetarian as well, and have gone back to eating salmon now for the protein and calories. Not happy. And there is no way I will go back to eating meat. :sick:

It is so difficult :frown:

You mean PCOS? Well, that changes everything, if you mentioned that at the outset, I would have understood completely. Yes insulin resistance goes along with PCOS, as does diabetes and other metabolic syndromes. YOu should Definitely go see a Registered Dietitian that specializes in PCOS diets, as there are specific low glycemic diets that are just for people like you. YOu don't nececessarilly need a low carb diet with PCOS, and low fat won't help with insulin as far as I know, but low saturated fat will, PCOS comes with High cholesterol many times, and saturated fats can increase this, but high GOOD fats can actually help with cholesterol levels too, this is stuff you should talk to a dietitian about, they will be much more helpful and PCOS is serious, don't mess around on here asking for advice, we're amatures, go find a a pro, and get ALL the facts and what you should be doing (a dietitian that specializes in PCOS, there are tons of them out there, but make sure it's a registered dietitian and NOT a nutritionist!).

LeanLioness

and still make your daily calories goal? :huh:

Doc suggested I try eating low fat and low carb for a while and I tell you I am struggling here.
I am on 125g carbs and 35g fat per day. But even with trying my best and thinking of all the food I can eat, I dont make it to 1200 calories. Only if I go over on carbs or fat then I can get to 1200 calories. :frown:

Any suggestions please?

That is South Beach, which personally I can not do....................

I like Atkins because it is moderate fat (healthy fats from animal, fish, olive oil, coconut oil, butter) and lots of veggies at first, then add back in healthy carbs in the forms of more veggies, nuts, fruit, and some whole grains that your body can tolerate.........................

LeanLioness

We tried for a baby for a while and nothing happened so saw a specialist gynaecologist.
He found out I have PCO and am therefore being treated with medication now and doc also said to reduce carbs and fat and up protein.

He said to start at 40% carbs and go lower bit by bit if no improvement shows.

He said to balance my protein and carb intake as well. Has to do with insulin if I remember right.

I ate alot of carbs before, so I can see why that was bad now. I still plan on having the occasional brown bread/pasta but need to reduce the amounts alot and am running out of ideas what to use to reach my daily calories. :ohwell: I am vegetarian as well, and have gone back to eating salmon now for the protein and calories. Not happy. And there is no way I will go back to eating meat. :sick:

It is so difficult :frown:

Check out my blood work on Atkins.......................

I have PCOS and diabetes and I do very well on Atkins. I get about 1600 calories per day also and feel great with lots of energy..............

If you don't like meat to get adequate protein you need to add in beans, nuts, seeds and sprouted grains...............like Ezekiel bread.

Hanni

You mean PCOS? Well, that changes everything, if you mentioned that at the outset, I would have understood completely. Yes insulin resistance goes along with PCOS, as does diabetes and other metabolic syndromes. YOu should Definitely go see a Registered Dietitian that specializes in PCOS diets, as there are specific low glycemic diets that are just for people like you. YOu don't nececessarilly need a low carb diet with PCOS, and low fat won't help with insulin as far as I know, but low saturated fat will, PCOS comes with High cholesterol many times, and saturated fats can increase this, but high GOOD fats can actually help with cholesterol levels too, this is stuff you should talk to a dietitian about, they will be much more helpful and PCOS is serious, don't mess around on here asking for advice, we're amatures, go find a a pro, and get ALL the facts and what you should be doing (a dietitian that specializes in PCOS, there are tons of them out there, but make sure it's a registered dietitian and NOT a nutritionist!).

No, I dont have PCOS yet. PCO and PCOS are different. But you are right. I should ask a dietician. I have searched for a dietician specialised in PCO and PCOS but couldnt find any in the UK.
I live in London, you would think there is someone! I will continue with my search. I wasnt lookign for PCO advise on here. just what people eat if they are tryign to lower their carb and fat intake, that's all.

LeanLioness

You mean PCOS? Well, that changes everything, if you mentioned that at the outset, I would have understood completely. Yes insulin resistance goes along with PCOS, as does diabetes and other metabolic syndromes. YOu should Definitely go see a Registered Dietitian that specializes in PCOS diets, as there are specific low glycemic diets that are just for people like you. YOu don't nececessarilly need a low carb diet with PCOS, and low fat won't help with insulin as far as I know, but low saturated fat will, PCOS comes with High cholesterol many times, and saturated fats can increase this, but high GOOD fats can actually help with cholesterol levels too, this is stuff you should talk to a dietitian about, they will be much more helpful and PCOS is serious, don't mess around on here asking for advice, we're amatures, go find a a pro, and get ALL the facts and what you should be doing (a dietitian that specializes in PCOS, there are tons of them out there, but make sure it's a registered dietitian and NOT a nutritionist!).

No, I dont have PCOS yet. PCO and PCOS are different. But you are right. I should ask a dietician. I have searched for a dietician specialised in PCO and PCOS but couldnt find any in the UK.
I live in London, you would think there is someone! I will continue with my search. I wasnt lookign for PCO advise on here. just what people eat if they are tryign to lower their carb and fat intake, that's all.

More than likely if you are having problems losing weight and it seems like you are in this endless cycle or have any other symptoms, you have PCOS already, not just PCO............I ended up going to 10 or 12 doctors before I found one that actually diagnosed me and I had full blown diabetes by then, not just insulin resistence.

I also don't understand why your Dr wants you to lower fat intake. Fat intake can increase immensely in the absence of refined carbs.............

Good Luck and if you need or want to talk to someone that has been there and done that over the past 6 years, just send me a message.

LeanLioness

prawns are shrimp.

Wait, you don't like most meat? Well, that's interesting, low fat AND low carb is not a good combination in MHO. I guess there would be some specific conditions that would cause a Dietitian to recommend that, but I would think it would need to be a very specific reasoning, did your doctor tell you why he/she wanted you to be both low carb and low fat? The reason I say that is generally because when you go low carb, fat tends to take the place of some carbs as your energy source (either that or protein, and if that's the case you need to eat extra protein in your diet).

Are you sure your doctor didn't mean low carb and low SATURATED fats? That would make much more sense in my opinion. Remember, many GP doctors don't have the training to recommend nutritional intake to patients, be wary of you GP's recommendations on nutrition, not saying your doctor is wrong, just saying that many times, they are less well educated in that respect than we may be lead to believe. Maybe it's time to go to a registered Dietitian, they are specifically trained for this type of advice. Again, I don't know your doctor, or their background, so he/she may have a perfectly valid reasoning, but just saying, make sure there is a reason, not just cuz it sounds good to them.

That is what I was thinking and generally, if you think of the body like a furnace, it takes fat to burn fat............

I am reading a book called Eat Fat, Get Thin...................very interesting read.

SHBoss1673

I agree with LL on this one. PCO don't usually show symptoms of insulin resistance and High Cholesterol, so if you have those symptoms, you may well already have PCOS. Considering the condition of the Health Care system in England, I would be skeptical of any initial diagnoses and look for a 2nd (and 3rd) opinion if possible.