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I don't carry water for anything under 12 miles, and I may go up to 16 without water if the weather is cool. I came to these numbers after doing some calculations on my sweat rate. It's advised by medical research that you not lose more than 5% of your body weight in fluids, so I did some experimentation to find out how many miles that is for me and under what conditions. I find that if I stay hydrated all the time (I drink over a gallon of water every day), that I can do runs of these lengths and lose between 3% and 5% of my body weight in fluids, within the acceptable range. Rarely am I thirsty when I run. I don't have dry mouth that I feel like I need to drink.
I will have to do the sweat rate thing. The weather is so fickle and my water retention rate changes drastically depending on my salt intake it seems. But, if I can find an easy way to do figure it out quickly from day to day, I might give it a try. Thanx for the info.0 -
I"m just trying to build up my distance and went for 4.25 miles this past Friday. After 2 miles in the 85+ degree weather I would feel very dizzy after every run interval so I ended up walking just over the last mile. At least I got the distance in
Next time I will bring water. 0 -
I always have water on me when running on the treadmill at the gym or outdoors on my own. At the gym I use my water bottle and on a trail (or any distance run) I use a fuel belt. The only time I won't run with water or a sports drink is when it is an organized run. They typically will have enough water on the course.0
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I don't carry water for anything under 12 miles, and I may go up to 16 without water if the weather is cool. I came to these numbers after doing some calculations on my sweat rate. It's advised by medical research that you not lose more than 5% of your body weight in fluids, so I did some experimentation to find out how many miles that is for me and under what conditions. I find that if I stay hydrated all the time (I drink over a gallon of water every day), that I can do runs of these lengths and lose between 3% and 5% of my body weight in fluids, within the acceptable range. Rarely am I thirsty when I run. I don't have dry mouth that I feel like I need to drink.
I will have to do the sweat rate thing. The weather is so fickle and my water retention rate changes drastically depending on my salt intake it seems. But, if I can find an easy way to do figure it out quickly from day to day, I might give it a try. Thanx for the info.
What I do is weigh myself right before a run and then again as soon as I get home. Use a shorter distance so you don't endanger yourself, so like a 5 or 6 miler. Do this on humid and not humid days and also at different temperatures. Eventually you'll get a pretty good idea of when you "need" water and when you don't. Also, there is a mindset that you need to replace what you sweat out and that's not entirely true. If you sweat 5 lbs of water, you don't need to and won't be able to drink 5 lbs of water on that run. All you can do is replenish, not replace. So, make sure that when you do need water, that you just have enough to keep yourself under that 5% number.0 -
Sorry, this should have been a QUOTE of Scotts comment:
Thats what I don't want to happen. To have to stop running because I didn't bring water. You also said you hate carrying it. I don't have a problem carrying water, in fact I love wearing my 2 liter camelbak. I just want to make sure Im not being a wuss.0 -
I never carry water with me but I also virtually never run outside if it's over 85, I'll wait till the sun sets or run on a treadmill. If I decide I do want water, I will run a 3 or 4 mile loop and stash my bottle under a shrub.
I should be less judgemental but I usually internally roll my eyes at people doing 5Ks and such while loaded down with water. I did Race for the Cure 5k on Saturday and it was warm, maybe 80, and I saw people wearing those waist bands that hold 5 or 6 little water bottles. The race had 2 stops on the course.0 -
If it's super hot out, I'll carry my camelbak, but if it's under 70, regardless of distance, I won't bother. Yeah I'll sweat and feel thirsty, but even on my longer run days (5-10 miles), I've never felt anything major. I just make sure to hydrate plenty once I'm back.0
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Well, having to stop has only happened to me about twice. Up to the 90s I know I can make 10 miles without killing myself because I have done it many times. 110 was pushing my luck and my limits. I have tried camelbacks and the one on my back rubbed my arm raw and the one around my waist makes my back hurt. I have a fuel belt I use for long runs and I have stashed water in the bushes a few times.Sorry, this should have been a QUOTE of Scotts comment:
Thats what I don't want to happen. To have to stop running because I didn't bring water. You also said you hate carrying it. I don't have a problem carrying water, in fact I love wearing my 2 liter camelbak. I just want to make sure Im not being a wuss.0 -
It really depends on the day. If I find it to be tolerable I probably won't carry water for anything shorter than 10k.
If I feel I need to bring water just in case I'll use my fuel belt but I am one of those people that would rather plan a route with water fountains than carry anything.
Last year instead of doing a 16 mile route I just did 4 short out and backs of 4 miles each making a pit stop at my truck to get water so I wouldn't have to carry anything.
OMG, How do you double back 4 times!!!!! Thats running the same route 8 times! UGH! I don't double back, I'll blaze my own trail if I have too! lol!0 -
OMG, How do you double back 4 times!!!!! Thats running the same route 8 times! UGH! I don't double back, I'll blaze my own trail if I have too! lol!
Me too. I hate running "laps". One out and back is tolerable (sometimes) but I really try to do loops whenever possible.0 -
oh girl ~ I am TOTALLY with you!
I always carry water for anything over 5.
Its not so much that I HAVE to have it - but I've been out and NOT had it and felt terrible.
getting dehydrated on any run would be NO BUENO!
and yes - when I see people that dont have it, I just wonder "why not?".
but - if they're runners, then they must know what they need while they're out!
:drinker:
Exactly my thought. I might not need it but ...What if......0 -
Lately, my runs are in 100+ temps, and since I usually don't go out for less than 5-6 miles, I always have water with me. After a 12 mile, hilly run in 103 temps last week, I drank approx 60 ounces of fluids, and still managed to lose 5 pounds in the 1:45 it took to run. I just don't understand why anyone would want to play around with their lives by running far in hot weather without having fluids on-hand.
Good point. It doesn't usually get 100+ where I am, and there's usually a cool breeze at the beach, even on a hot day (90+), so it's not that big of a deal for me. If it was 100+, and I was running 10 or 12 miles, I'd probably need to bring some water with me.
Same here, I would have to adjust. In the summer, I get out before it's gets too hot. My LSD is usually done before 9 AM in the summer time, so at worst, I might see 90 toward the end.
All you early morning SoCalians. Psh! Think hot,humid, stagnant air and mosquitos. Maybe I need to reconsider where I run. The trees tend to deflect all the "Breeze" around here.0 -
I try to find a time when it is not too hot in the summer (my marathons are in October and January so there is no reason that I HAVE to go when the temps get too high), when I do go and the temp gets over 80 I will either take the water with me or stash it somewhere along the course.
I made the mistake of doing a 15K in hot weather that turned into brutally hot weather about 8K in. We got so bad that we were forced to walk after about 12K and it took a surprisingly long time to recover. Never again.0 -
I am easily dehyrdrated so I always carry water with me for any runs over 6 miles (or 4 miles when it's over 60 degrees). I have even carried water with me when I did a 10 mile run in 25 degree weather!
But that's me... I've suffered extreme heat exhaustion on four occasions (twice from hiking in the heat and twice from running) and really don't want to go through that again. I use a little 12oz bottle on my iFitness belt for runs from 6 to 9 miles and use my Camelback for anything over that.
I don't feel like I'm wimping out... I just happen to know that I need to drink more water (or more often) than most other runners.0 -
I think its all about what you get used to. 75 degrees isn't hot to me. Anything over 85 is hot and I would probably carry water. I ran 12 miles on Sat. and the temp was in the high 70's to low 80's and I didn't carry water. I'm in SC. I think its all about what you get used to. I hear people say they run in 30 degree weather and I think how ?? But, I'm sure they are used to it.0
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All you early morning SoCalians. Psh! Think hot,humid, stagnant air and mosquitos. Maybe I need to reconsider where I run. The trees tend to deflect all the "Breeze" around here.
I think general conditions have a lot to do with it. Like my training has always been in high desert areas with extremely low humidity. In Reno where I grew up, the average is around 10-15%,In the area of southern Colorado I'm in now, it's around the same. All the sweat evaporates pretty quickly, so even though I feel like I sweat a lot, it does a good job of regulating my temperature, so I don't sweat excessively.
When I ran in lower elevations with increased humidity, like Kansas City area (that area is just brutal in the summertime, even at night), I had a lot more issues with feeling fatigue due to lost water and electrolytes. It makes a BIG difference running and feeling like your sweat is actually going somewhere besides just coursing off your boobs in rivers. And of course it just makes a big difference being acclimated in general. Running in the heat takes adjustment.0 -
Thank you for everyones replies. There is alot of good information in your comments. I don't think I drink as much water as I should, in general. If I did, maybe I would have better luck like some people. I don't really "Want" to run 10 miles without water, however, it would be nice to know that I could. Maybe it would be good to build up my tolerance. I suppose you never know when you'll have to run for your life without your favorite pair of running shoes and 80 oz. of water on your back.:laugh:0
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I wouldn't call myself a seasoned runner but yesterday I learned the hard way just how necessary water is when out for a run in high temperatures. Today I brought my armband water bottle with me and I was so thankful that I had it. Yesterday i had to cut my run short and it was such a disappointment! Live and learn 0
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1) When you run in warm temperatures, lets say 75-100 degrees, what distance do you have to be going in order to bring water with you? (Assume there are no drinking fountains or what have you)
5 miles plus, before I bring water
2)Do you not take water because you just have not found a form of hydrating that you like to carry or wear?
I'm fast, and don't need water under 5 miles. I wear a hand water bottle, or a camelback on long(er) distances.0 -
I always felt like I wasn't a "real runner" because I carry water and almost no one else does! I only would do 5k in various temps, but if I didn't take water I was miserable. I did notice a lot of water bottles on people running the Colfax Marathon yesterday though!0
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I sweat like a wildabeast, and run in high temps with horrible humidity. I use a fuel belt, which I love (yay pockets!), but I don't generally carry water for anything under 9 miles.
It used to be 13, but the humidity makes me want it sooner than that. I don't know, I just don't get thirsty until after I stop -- but I have noticed that when I do hydrate mid-run, I feel so much better.0 -
I ALWAYS carry water with me, AND the water is flavored with green tea and a Energy Shot(actually 4) made by MIO......0
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I usually carry something if I'm going over 6 miles, but sometimes that's just some seedless grapes, not a beverage.0
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I don't consider myself a seasoned runner, but I never take any water/drinks with me when I run. The longest run I have done so far is 5.7 miles and I can only do that on a completely empty bladder in the morning...if I had water with me I'd have to keep stopping to go pee (and since I run around our subdivision that would mean constantly coming back inside my house while my DH and sons are sleeping)...so maybe some of the other runners that you see are like me and their bladders just won't allow them to drink without having to stop. 0
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I always carry water or sports drink. I have a mini-Camelback and I carry it for anything 4 miles or longer. I have a really small stomach and can't just gulp down fluids so the consistent intake of fluids, in a sipping manner, is perfect for me--and I can do it without stopping.
As for running a 1/2 marathon with little or no fluids as some folks on here apparently do...all I can say is "wow". You must have some amazing fluid retention skills. That wouldn't work for me! In fact, I'm looking at getting a larger Camelback for anything over 10 miles since I can drink the whole liter and a half I carry now within 6 miles.0 -
I never carry water with me but I also virtually never run outside if it's over 85, I'll wait till the sun sets or run on a treadmill. If I decide I do want water, I will run a 3 or 4 mile loop and stash my bottle under a shrub.
I should be less judgemental but I usually internally roll my eyes at people doing 5Ks and such while loaded down with water. I did Race for the Cure 5k on Saturday and it was warm, maybe 80, and I saw people wearing those waist bands that hold 5 or 6 little water bottles. The race had 2 stops on the course.
I don't care what other people do/don't carry on a run. They know their bodies and psyche better than I do. I think the fact they're there and racing is a "high five" on their part. Believe me, it's not that I don't have my judgemental issues, but in sports and exercising, I could not care less. The whole "suck it up" attitude has no place in good sportsmanship, in my opinion.0 -
On road runs, even the 20-milers, I won't carry water unless its over 80 or so. My routes have water fountains every few miles, so I'm good. I hate carrying a water bottle, even a 16 oz one unbalances me and I end up with a cramp in my opposite shoulder.
Trail runs, however, are different. I run in LA, so if I'm headed to the top of Mt Hollywood, I always carry water. Something about those sustained climbs makes me thirsty, even if the total distance is only 6 miles.0 -
If it's 80 degrees or hotter I bring water on 4+ mile runs.... sometimes even for 3 miles runs if I feel dehydrated in any way. I have a handheld water bottle that has the strap, but I DESPISE carrying stuff. So I go with a fuel belt and carry 3 or 4 small water bottles on my waist. I usually prefer just water. If I do bring gatorade I always cut it with water in a 50:50 mixture. Straight gatorade makes me nauseous.0
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I have no set distance or temperature where i will take water. It just all depends. Usually in the summer i have no set distance as i'm not training for a race so i will just run as far as i can & if i get thirsty just stop or find a fountain.0
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Lately, my runs are in 100+ temps, and since I usually don't go out for less than 5-6 miles, I always have water with me. After a 12 mile, hilly run in 103 temps last week, I drank approx 60 ounces of fluids, and still managed to lose 5 pounds in the 1:45 it took to run. I just don't understand why anyone would want to play around with their lives by running far in hot weather without having fluids on-hand.
Good point. It doesn't usually get 100+ where I am, and there's usually a cool breeze at the beach, even on a hot day (90+), so it's not that big of a deal for me. If it was 100+, and I was running 10 or 12 miles, I'd probably need to bring some water with me.
Same here, I would have to adjust. In the summer, I get out before it's gets too hot. My LSD is usually done before 9 AM in the summer time, so at worst, I might see 90 toward the end.
All you early morning SoCalians. Psh! Think hot,humid, stagnant air and mosquitos. Maybe I need to reconsider where I run. The trees tend to deflect all the "Breeze" around here.
I'm not from SoCal, I'm just down the road from you in Northern Baltimore County. 0
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