Avoiding Weight Gain Whilst Fasting

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  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
    LOL. A religion with 1.6 billion people in it isn't going to suggest something as crazy as not eating anything for 30 days. xD You can actually eat EVERY day. Just not all day long hahaha.

    :laugh: I never underestimate what people will do for their faith. Plus, I at first wasn't sure if there were Muslims who observed Ramadan more strictly than others.
  • dontwantausername1
    dontwantausername1 Posts: 120 Member
    LOL. A religion with 1.6 billion people in it isn't going to suggest something as crazy as not eating anything for 30 days. xD You can actually eat EVERY day. Just not all day long hahaha.

    :laugh: I never underestimate what people will do for their faith. Plus, I at first wasn't sure if there were Muslims who observed Ramadan more strictly than others.
    You can't ever underestimate people :laugh:. Religion and the need to be thin make people do crazy things haha.
  • EngineerPrincess
    EngineerPrincess Posts: 306 Member
    To answer the OP's original question, here's an article my friend just showed me!

    http://www.suhaibwebb.com/personaldvlpt/worship/fasting-ramadan/the-ramadan-nutrition-and-workout-plan-for-success-by-rehan-jalali-the-protein-shaikh/

    Also, just avoid eating TONS of food after sunset and make sure you eat enough at suhoor to avoid running out of energy during the day, I usually have one hardboiled egg or a protein shake, and then as much water as I can drink! (This might sound drastic but it's usually around one cup lol, I can't hold much water.)
  • AllTehBeers
    AllTehBeers Posts: 5,030 Member
    The time of day or number of meals you eat has no bearing on weight loss. All you need to do is stay under your calories for the day. Further reading by someone that has more knowledge then I:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency
  • Sidesteal
    Sidesteal Posts: 5,510 Member
    The fasting phase doesn't cause you to slow down your metabolism and gain weight. What causes you to gain weight is stuffing your face.

    ^ Ultimately this, and this:
    The time of day or number of meals you eat has no bearing on weight loss. All you need to do is stay under your calories for the day.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/529002-a-compliation-on-meal-frequency


    OP: In short, keep control over your total daily intake of calories and macronutrients and you'll be just fine.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    Honestly, I'd recommend NOT fasting. If you're not getting any benefit out of it, why do it?

    Ramadan is a religious fast observed by Muslims. It's a Very Big Deal.

    I get that.
    I simply don't recommend doing harm to your body, whether it be in the name of a deity or a custom or otherwise. Ultimately it's personal choice, but that's my recommendation.

    Fasting sun up to sun down is not going to harm your body. OP- count your calories at night, just as you do during the day. I would suggest, if you are currently trying to lose weight to eat at maintenance for the week to give yourself some extra room to work with. It is only a short time. Whatever you do gain will be mostly water weight anyways and should come off quickly.
  • Roni_M
    Roni_M Posts: 717 Member
    A friend of mine used to switch to a night shift... That way he was able to sleep through the fasting period. I'm not Muslim, so not familiar with the customs, but I always thought that seemed like cheating! LOL

    You got some great suggestions on diet, I hope you're able to avoid the yummy treats! Good luck!! :flowerforyou:
  • srpm
    srpm Posts: 275 Member
    Try to eat your carbs/protein/fat/dairy during your morning meal (Sorry I don't know the names!) try to get in lean protein (white meat/eggs?) and fruits/veggies in at night, but not dried fruit try to stick with whole fruits & veggies.
    If you can manage to not eat any meat/dairy/bread/etc at night, some studies say the body digests fruit & veggies very easily especially when eaten without any meat or bread so that can help keep the problems of going to bed after eating at bay since they are digested faster.
  • Dead_Darling
    Dead_Darling Posts: 478 Member
    I can't wait for Ramadhan to start :) although it'll be more difficult this year with the longer hours!

    Last Ramadhan I managed to keep 28 fasts out of 30 (but that was because my hormones messed up, and I didn't get a week's break, so to say) and lost half a stone from it! The weight went back on when I went on holiday to Tenerife about a month later though lol

    What I did was eat Weetabix (or any other porridge) with fruit (I had banana with mine) for Sehri and drank as much water as I can so I wouldn't feel dehydrated during the day. At Iftari, I had a couple of dates, some more water and before Taraweeh I'd have dinner of lean meats and vegetables...sometimes I'd have roti, but not all the time :wink:

    Since Ramadhan's going to be in the summer, it's important to have as much water as possible during Sehri and Iftari

    I hope this helps a little bit :smile:
  • Guitarjon
    Guitarjon Posts: 204 Member
    I don't fast, nor am I Muslim. If I did I think I'd still make and PLAN meals before you have them to ensure they are within your 1200 calorie allowence. I'd also think about getting up earlier to ensure I can get in 2 meals a day. One in the morning (early before the sun) and one as soon as it goes down.

    I don't know the science behind it but a few people on here have said that it doesn't actually matter when you eat the calories as long as you get them in and dont go over them.

    In England at the moment its light really early and doesn't go dark straight away so I would struggle really badly getting up before the sunrise, good luck to you :)
  • GabrielleZelda
    GabrielleZelda Posts: 190 Member
    Woah - I don't think Umeboshi is being rude - it's an honest recommendation, up to you to take it or leave it!

    I have a few friends who celebrate Ramadan as well, and they have the same problem. One of them has honestly told me that she has to drink a bit of juice through out the day, other wise she just feels weak and binges during the feast. I don't know if this is an option for you, probably not, but this is how she manages it!

    And when you are able to eat - since you are doing it once every day during this period, I think it would make sense to eat regular portion sizes, but a few, through out the feast. That way, you're still taking in let's say 1800-2000 cals to maintain your weight.

    It must be SO hard to make healthy choices when you haven't eaten all day though!

    Good luck, let us know how it goes!
  • GabrielleZelda
    GabrielleZelda Posts: 190 Member
    P.S. I would read up on some "intermittent fasting" articles, because tha's pretty much what you'll be doing. I think they might help!
  • Sublog
    Sublog Posts: 1,296 Member
    Hi Everyone!!

    So Ramadan is fast approaching with only 8 weeks to go. What we tend to do is fast (food + water) from sun rise till sun set for 30 days, as it is in the Summer the fasting days are going to be painfully long.

    Generally every year I tend to gain weight despite fasting :( once you can eat all you want to do is just stuff your face...and as it is so late in the night as well it just sits around thanks to a slower metabolism and adds to the chub around my stomach.

    Would anyone be able to give some tips on what to do during this period to carry on weight loss/or at least maintain the weight?

    Thanks!
    Warda

    Fasting does NOT lead to fat gain. Eating too many calories does. With that being said, simply control your calories when you break your fast instead eating like a bottomless pit.

    Also, your metabolism is not slower at night. Calories in/out over the span of a day.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Warda,

    The only thing you can do is keep tracking and logging your foods and remain in a calorie deficit under your maintenance (TDEE). Use the fasting opportunity to your advantage. Do cardio and weight train WHILE fasted.
  • transfixedtoast
    transfixedtoast Posts: 89 Member
    I'm not sure if my advice might help but if I were in yoru situation I'd have a routine of two meals not during the day, when coming out of the fasting period I would make the meals smaller and gradually move them back to normal eating times.
    If you eat in the morning before the sun and in the evening after the sun then when coming out of the fast move the two meals back into normal times and add in lunch aswell. Hopefully you can gradually get back to your normal eating habits.
  • lesita75
    lesita75 Posts: 379 Member
    There are so many reasons for fasting, one of which is learning *self control*. And *respect* for things that you don't see the reason for now but might later, respect which should extend to traditions unless you see an obvious reason that the custom is degrading or destructive, which this one really isn't. There's been tons of research on the health effects of Ramadan and it's perfectly sound. I love some of the respect I see going on for other's cultures and religions here and I'm gonna ignore the people who aren't. ;)
    I've fasted for several Ramadans now and I've lost a small bit of weight each time and DID NOT gain it back, it's not a diet it's a ritual which is different.

    EDIT:
    I've never met anyone that felt like they didn't have a choice, because forcing someone or pushing them into fasting is actually against the religion, you have to do it because you *want* to or it doesn't count. So forcing someone to fast would be quite counter-productive to the point, never heard of anyone doing that. I know tons of Muslims that choose not to fast due to everything from health reasons to personal reasons.

    Beautifully said; I'm not Muslim and am currently fasting now for my spiritual beliefs as a Christian. Fasting for the right reason is an awesome feeling! :flowerforyou:
  • lesita75
    lesita75 Posts: 379 Member

    I did mention fasting during sunrise and sunset :)

    I must have missed it. My fault!
    Hope you can understand why I didn't think eating nothing for 30 days was a good idea. :laugh: Next time I'll read more carefully.

    Lol makes more sense now...and no I don't think I have required self control to not eat or drink for 30 whole days let alone even think about it!

    ^^ This :noway:
    Couldn't imagine that either. I did do a 24 hour water only fast once. At the 23:59:00 mark I was sitting down with a plate waiting for the last minute to go by. Hardest thing I've ever done.
  • P_Thomas042106
    P_Thomas042106 Posts: 5 Member
    Yes with only 1200 calories this should be easy for you to do. I would just be sure that like an earlier person expressed be sure that your morning meal consists of alot of slow burning carbs. I am new to the whole dieting thing but I know that with my body when I eat high protien meals i seem to loose more weight. So at night I would be sure to eat high protien foods. That away you will burn while sleeping vs gaining because you have had alot of sugar and carbs at night. Good luck and hope this helps.
  • lastchance2010
    lastchance2010 Posts: 494 Member
    this has been a very informative thread as I too am excited about the fast approach of Ramadan!! I hope it goes as well as last year. The first week is always the hardest, but from there it's smooth sailing! Everyones thoughts and opinions are much appreciated and Warda, jazakallah khair for posting this topic!!! :flowerforyou:
  • Spanaval
    Spanaval Posts: 1,200 Member
    The only thing I would add is that you may want to consider eating at maintenance or at a smaller deficit than usual (TDEE - 10%) during Ramadan if you feel that it's too hard to stay within your low calorie goal.
  • myfitnessnmhoy
    myfitnessnmhoy Posts: 2,105 Member
    Log all the food you eat and stay within your daily calories.

    Timing is largely irrelevant, though you want the fast to last as little as possible each day to keep your metabolism as high as possible as much as you can.

    Eat a decently-balanced meal just before sunrise to break your overnight fast - focus on some complex carbs and lots of protein and fat. Then have another decently-balanced meal as soon as the sun sets. Have a healthy snack before bedtime if you can. Keep all of this intake within your daily calorie allotment.
  • jerzypeach
    jerzypeach Posts: 176 Member
    Honestly, I'd recommend NOT fasting. If you're not getting any benefit out of it, why do it?

    Ramadan is a religious fast observed by Muslims. It's a Very Big Deal.

    I get that.
    I simply don't recommend doing harm to your body, whether it be in the name of a deity or a custom or otherwise. Ultimately it's personal choice, but that's my recommendation.

    THIS! Religion is very dangerous to women and children. :-)
  • smartandtrim
    smartandtrim Posts: 123 Member
    Honestly, I'd recommend NOT fasting. If you're not getting any benefit out of it, why do it?

    Ramadan is a religious fast observed by Muslims. It's a Very Big Deal.

    I get that.
    I simply don't recommend doing harm to your body, whether it be in the name of a deity or a custom or otherwise. Ultimately it's personal choice, but that's my recommendation.

    THIS! Religion is very dangerous to women and children. :-)

    Why just to women and children? I know my religion at least is just as strict (if not more so, actually) for men.

    To OP: Jew here. When I fast for Tisha B'Av and Yom Kippur I just make sure at the end of the day to avoid all the fried things. It also helps to set out what you intend to eat beforehand... and to TELL your family you're watching what you eat (doesn't always work, my grandmother acts offended, but it is a start).
  • yhwhsesther
    yhwhsesther Posts: 204 Member
    Our family does fasting as well during Ramadan but are not muslim and i find that if i ease into it before the start of Ramadan it helps. I remove sugary and fatty foods( most of the fatty foods cause i still crave it) and then i make sure we have salads and fruits to eat that have beans and nuts etc to give us our protien. Fasting is a good way to cleanse the body and helps one focus on prayer and God. there are many benefits if one chooses to see the whole person not just the body,it helps the mind, body, and spirit. if you need support add me :) ill be glad to fast with you for suppor
  • Glucocorticoid
    Glucocorticoid Posts: 867 Member
    So is there a limit to how much you can eat once the sun sets?
    If not, just eat your calories/protein then and plan your workout around that period as well. Eating adequate calories (not too large of a deficit) and protein (1g/lb as a rule of thumb), along with a high tension muscle stimulus (weight training) should allow you to maintain fairly well.
  • EngineerPrincess
    EngineerPrincess Posts: 306 Member
    Honestly, I'd recommend NOT fasting. If you're not getting any benefit out of it, why do it?

    Ramadan is a religious fast observed by Muslims. It's a Very Big Deal.

    I get that.
    I simply don't recommend doing harm to your body, whether it be in the name of a deity or a custom or otherwise. Ultimately it's personal choice, but that's my recommendation.

    THIS! Religion is very dangerous to women and children. :-)
    Children't are NOT supposed to fast before they're teenagers, and women don't have to for a week and/or if they are pregnant or sick. I love that people are interested in other cultures but it's recommended to do a three second google search before making a statement condemning/criticizing someone's religion. :)
  • rawhidenadz
    rawhidenadz Posts: 254 Member
    Honestly, I'd recommend NOT fasting. If you're not getting any benefit out of it, why do it?

    Ramadan is a religious fast observed by Muslims. It's a Very Big Deal.

    I get that.
    I simply don't recommend doing harm to your body, whether it be in the name of a deity or a custom or otherwise. Ultimately it's personal choice, but that's my recommendation.

    THIS! Religion is very dangerous to women and children. :-)

    WTF?
  • rawhidenadz
    rawhidenadz Posts: 254 Member
    Anyway, OP, my family is Muslim and what my parents do every year is eat very lightly when they first break their fast (like soup and salad or something), then they go pray and wait a little bit, like 30 minutes or so until they eat a second, larger meal. They don't go crazy with the sweets and fattening foods like a lot of people do - they just eat the same way they usually do for the most part. They basically never gain weight during Ramadan and usually they lose a few pounds, even. So it's definitely possible.

    I'm not very religious and I actually skipped Ramadan last year because I was so focused on losing weight (I know, terrible), but I think I might do it this year since I'm very near goal at this point (hopefully will be at goal by then). I basically do Intermittent Fasting most of the time anyway, so it's not much of a leap. I suggest reading up on Intermittent Fasting if you want more info. Basically, if you stick to your calorie limit you will lose weight. A lot of my relatives gain weight during Ramadan but that's because they gorge themselves during the eating period. That's not healthy. In the end, calories will always matter much more than meal timing, so watch your calories and you'll be okay.