This 1200 calorie thing is driving me up a wall

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  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    My fitness pal put me at 1300 but that seems very little and I haven't lost a thing. I went to a bmr site and it said over 2000. I don't know what to do at all.

    what's your bmi?

    what is your height, weight, and activity level?

    Remember this, any website is only going to recommend based on "educated guesses". You may need to do some tweaking to get the numbers right for you. Don't be afraid to play a little bit with your calorie amounts, distribution, and macro nutrient percentages. this site (like me) isn't a god when it comes to calories, everyone is a little different. What works for me, may be a tiny bit different from what works for you, and so on and so forth.
  • paula123
    paula123 Posts: 91
    I ate my 1200 calories yesterday exactly not one over and I don't know how I can manage to eat more :noway: It was all healthy foods so I don't know how I could eat more and I had about 500 exercise calories I didn't get too because well, it was already late at night and I was just not hungry!!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I ate my 1200 calories yesterday exactly not one over and I don't know how I can manage to eat more :noway: It was all healthy foods so I don't know how I could eat more and I had about 500 exercise calories I didn't get too because well, it was already late at night and I was just not hungry!!

    Ha, you think that's tough, try finding 3200 healthy calories a day.
  • nitag
    nitag Posts: 706 Member
    My fitness pal put me at 1300 but that seems very little and I haven't lost a thing. I went to a bmr site and it said over 2000. I don't know what to do at all.

    what's your bmi?

    what is your height, weight, and activity level?

    Remember this, any website is only going to recommend based on "educated guesses". You may need to do some tweaking to get the numbers right for you. Don't be afraid to play a little bit with your calorie amounts, distribution, and macro nutrient percentages. this site (like me) isn't a god when it comes to calories, everyone is a little different. What works for me, may be a tiny bit different from what works for you, and so on and so forth.

    Boss I don't think I have ever respected someone's opinion on this subject as much as I do yours.. Now being a "newbie", I have been following the 1200 calorie a day thing because thats what this site directs me to do.. Some days I am fine and some days I am seriously feeling like I am starving.. How do we really know how much to eat, I am so confused.. I don't want to lose to fast. I want to do it slow and learn how to eat properly so I don't have to do this again... In 96 I lost 80 lbs in 6 months and well here I am again.. I was a lot younger in 96 and it just isn't as easy.. But I don't stress on that.. I just want to do it the right way... My Dr. said between 1200 and 1400 calories a day and not to eat my exercise calories back.. When I mentioned that to him he looked at me funny and said then why are you exercising.. Ugg.. So another confusing subject that so many have opinions on and another on that confuses me.. But my point is I want to do this right.....Period!!!

    I am 44, currently 200 lbs even, 5"4 " Current BMI 34.7..

    The BL site says I should be eating between 1400 - 1799 calories a day... I have kinda been following that plan but not eating that many calories.. I've lost 20 lbs in 6 weeks..

    Currently, I am working out 45 to 90 mins a day... Mostly cardio.... light weights (5 lbs) and 100 crunches a day...

    Give me your opinion and don't be afraid of saying it like it is.. I am here for support and to have a good swift kick in the butt to keep me in line....


    Anita
  • ChubbyBunny
    ChubbyBunny Posts: 3,523 Member
    MFP set me at 1200 cals when I first started.... even when I wasn't working out that was too low... I was a nightmare to be around.
    So, through asking advice and opinions from successful people on this site, I have gradually increased my calories (which was scary...before I joined this site I was living on anywhere from 700-1000 calories a day...working out insanely). First I went to 1400.... then 1500....now I am doing a trial 2 weeks at 1600...I've also had to re-think work outs due to my body type.

    Don't rely solely on what MFP tells you.... it is a machine making an educated guess...sometimes it's not guessing right for your life.
    :flowerforyou:
  • farmgirlh
    farmgirlh Posts: 240
    I am 5'4" with hypothyroidism. It is a totally different than with a healthy metabolism. I am on replacement hormones but it still isn't the same. After talking with my doctor we set my weight loss calories to 1250 with no workout never more than 1500. This is for me, my activity level, my workout intensity level, if I change any of them then I need to go back and we will reevaluate.

    I do think that unless you have a medical issue or under 5ft tall you have no reason to 1200 a day. Good luck to everyone!!:drinker:
  • stillkristi
    stillkristi Posts: 1,135 Member

    what's your bmi?

    what is your height, weight, and activity level?

    Remember this, any website is only going to recommend based on "educated guesses". You may need to do some tweaking to get the numbers right for you. Don't be afraid to play a little bit with your calorie amounts, distribution, and macro nutrient percentages. this site (like me) isn't a god when it comes to calories, everyone is a little different. What works for me, may be a tiny bit different from what works for you, and so on and so forth.

    This is beginning to make so much more sense. smiley-bow.gif

    Ok, one more question, as long as I have come to the mountain where the guru lives... :wink: How can I use my BMI as a tool to guage caloric intake? Don't feel like you have to re-create a dissertation, just point me in the right direction, please. Thanks so much for sharing your experience and wisdom.
  • renae77
    renae77 Posts: 3,394 Member
    On here I have my weight calculated at 177 and they have my calories set at 1290. So I went in and changed some things and it still has me set at 1380. Does this seem right to anyone? I can almost starve on that small amount of calories.
  • It really is just a number.
    I'm funny; if I'm hungry, I'm going to eat.
    Life is too short not too.
    For me, it's all about fiber and nutrition
    but I think I haven't quite gotten the 500 calorie deficit each week. I mean obviously, because I haven't been losing. But I've only just started back so I'm hopeful.

    I think for some people it's 1200, for others 1400, for some 1600. We have to eat for fuel
    and fuel gets us exercising and then we can eat...but the food has to be whole grains, really filling and low in fat.
  • jenszoo
    jenszoo Posts: 19
    Banks I don't know if anyone has posted the link to your other post about extra calories but here it is...

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo

    I found this very helpful.
  • 1200 is too low, but for us personally, My wife and I absolutely stop at 1500. We're trying to keep it at a 1000 cal deficit and this does it for us. It's just personal preference. Don't let other people tell you what to do. Take their advice and do what you want with it.
  • stillkristi
    stillkristi Posts: 1,135 Member
    Banks I don't know if anyone has posted the link to your other post about extra calories but here it is...

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10589-for-those-confused-or-questioning-eating-your-exercise-calo

    I found this very helpful.

    Thanks, that was very helpful!
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    to answer your question stillkristi,

    yeah, as a general guideline you can use your BMI.

    I used to do it like this:

    over 30: 1000 calorie a day deficit is fine
    27 to 30: about 600 should work

    25 to 27: about 400 should work

    anything lower then 25, you probably shouldn't be at a deficit, or if you are, a very small one.

    that's just my rule of thumb. It's not law, and it may not work for everyone. But it should be pretty accurate for most people, and unless you have a specific medical condition, it should be a guideline even if those numbers don't work, you may just need to tweak them a bit.

    All that said, don't rely on BMI too much, as it is a flawed calculation. People with higher then average muscle to fat ratios don't get an accurate picture with BMI (typically athletes BMI's aren't true to form). also use as a gauge your body fat %, and weight, and general feeling of health. they should all be used in conjunction to help you realize your true health.
  • jtintx
    jtintx Posts: 445 Member
    to answer your question stillkristi,

    yeah, as a general guideline you can use your BMI.

    I used to do it like this:

    over 30: 1000 calorie a day deficit is fine
    27 to 30: about 600 should work

    25 to 27: about 400 should work

    anything lower then 25, you probably shouldn't be at a deficit, or if you are, a very small one.

    that's just my rule of thumb. It's not law, and it may not work for everyone. But it should be pretty accurate for most people, and unless you have a specific medical condition, it should be a guideline even if those numbers don't work, you may just need to tweak them a bit.

    All that said, don't rely on BMI too much, as it is a flawed calculation. People with higher then average muscle to fat ratios don't get an accurate picture with BMI (typically athletes BMI's aren't true to form). also use as a gauge your body fat %, and weight, and general feeling of health. they should all be used in conjunction to help you realize your true health.
    Banks, I'm curious if you would agree that once a person reaches their optimal or healthy BMI range then body fat testing should be used to determine if the individual should continue with a calorie deficit or not? Well...I don't know how I missed that one sentence at the end of your post...disregard...I see you do feel body fat % is a good gauge. I would have deleted this if it allowed me. Sorry folks.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    to answer your question stillkristi,

    yeah, as a general guideline you can use your BMI.

    I used to do it like this:

    over 30: 1000 calorie a day deficit is fine
    27 to 30: about 600 should work

    25 to 27: about 400 should work

    anything lower then 25, you probably shouldn't be at a deficit, or if you are, a very small one.

    that's just my rule of thumb. It's not law, and it may not work for everyone. But it should be pretty accurate for most people, and unless you have a specific medical condition, it should be a guideline even if those numbers don't work, you may just need to tweak them a bit.

    All that said, don't rely on BMI too much, as it is a flawed calculation. People with higher then average muscle to fat ratios don't get an accurate picture with BMI (typically athletes BMI's aren't true to form). also use as a gauge your body fat %, and weight, and general feeling of health. they should all be used in conjunction to help you realize your true health.
    Banks, I'm curious if you would agree that once a person reaches their optimal or healthy BMI range then body fat testing should be used to determine if the individual should continue with a calorie deficit or not?

    I think that body fat is a far better judge at that point. Although with a healthy BMI, it's tough to be at a deficit. At that point you can probably maintain and still gradually lose the fat and build muscle just by exercising, adding some resistance or weights, and eating healthy.

    but I get your point, yeah, you can have a "healthy" BMI and still have a high Body Fat %. Not extremely high, but for a woman, I could see someone having a BMI of 25 and haveing a Body fat % of like 30 or so. Which is a little higher then it should be. for a man I imagine 20 or 21% would probably be the limit you could do and still be a healthy BMI.

    those are just top of my head numbers, I didn't do any calculations to get them, so I may be a percentage point or two off there.
  • criztawl
    criztawl Posts: 34
    I serioulsy don't understand why people do not get eating their calories AND the exercise calories. People don't seem to understand what their body needs nor do they seem to know about putting your body into starvation mode and screwing up your organs.

    Also, I can' t believe that this site is telling the majority of people to eat 1200 cal/day. I'm to eat 1440 cal/day ... if I exercise, I eat those calories, maybe not all of them but most of them because I know to stay healthy AND lose weight that I need to give my body energy.


    People need to learn that to lose weight doesn't mean that you need to starve yourself ... you need to eat to lose weight. Obsvioulsy not over eat, but eat a good amount of calories.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I serioulsy don't understand why people do not get eating their calories AND the exercise calories. People don't seem to understand what their body needs nor do they seem to know about putting your body into starvation mode and screwing up your organs.

    Also, I can' t believe that this site is telling the majority of people to eat 1200 cal/day. I'm to eat 1440 cal/day ... if I exercise, I eat those calories, maybe not all of them but most of them because I know to stay healthy AND lose weight that I need to give my body energy.


    People need to learn that to lose weight doesn't mean that you need to starve yourself ... you need to eat to lose weight. Obsvioulsy not over eat, but eat a good amount of calories.

    unfortunately criz, the goals calculator is dumb. It doesn't factor in how much people have to lose, all it will do is ask you for a goal (1lb, 2lbs...etc) and give you a deficit. the only thing it will do is stop at 1200 calories. No matter what your size is, the site won't give you a deficit that brings you below 1200, well, not with the guided goals anyway.

    and a lot of people just don't have the knowledge. There's so much crap out there that people get confused. It's not really their fault, this knowledge has been hidden for a long time from people. It's just now beginning to go main stream. Eventually everyone will (hopefully) have a better understanding of metabolism, but for now all we can do, as people who have researched it, is try to give out as much knowledge as we can and be patient and do our best to explain it.
  • stef_e_b
    stef_e_b Posts: 593
    My fitness pal put me at 1300 but that seems very little and I haven't lost a thing. I went to a bmr site and it said over 2000. I don't know what to do at all.

    what's your bmi?

    what is your height, weight, and activity level?

    Remember this, any website is only going to recommend based on "educated guesses". You may need to do some tweaking to get the numbers right for you. Don't be afraid to play a little bit with your calorie amounts, distribution, and macro nutrient percentages. this site (like me) isn't a god when it comes to calories, everyone is a little different. What works for me, may be a tiny bit different from what works for you, and so on and so forth.

    Ugh, I guess the first step to recovery is admitting my faults so here goes:
    BMI...38
    Height...5'6
    Weight...237
    Activity Level...I put sedentary because I'm a student
    I'm only 20 so I'm hoping I'm fixable. The other problem is that I have cerebral palsey so I can be limited when it comes to fitness. My left arm doesn't really do what it's told because I'm so weak from never using them.
    I changed my goals from 2 pounds per week which left me at 1300 cals to 1 pound per week which is 1800 cals...I just don't know.
  • jtintx
    jtintx Posts: 445 Member
    Recently I've been reading some stuff by Covert Bailey. Covert Bailey earned his undergraduate degree at Harvard and received a M.S. degree in biochemistry from MIT. So I'm assuming he knows what he is talking about. He has been studying "fatness" for many, many years. The first book of his I read was Fit or Fat back in the early 80s. I would highly recommend his books. Anyhow, the point of this is that he says that men should have a body fat % (BF%) of 15 and women 22. He says that these are just guidelines kind of like blood pressure of 120/80 is a guideline. I found it really interesting that he says the average man is 22% fat and the average woman is 32% fat. It just goes to show that the average man and woman are over-fat. Just a few more numbers because I find this really interesting. The lowest BF% he ever test was 1% and 6% (man/woman) and the highest he ever tested was 55% and 68%. Anyhow, if you have a NetLibrary account you can read his book, The Ultimate Fit or Fat online for free.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I want to throw a few pennies in the pond.

    I know a lady who is skinny (think Olive Oyl) She barely ate anything all day long. Pretzels or such.

    In the lunch room ppl would comment they wish they could eat like her so they could lose weight.

    She is the 1st of my friends to have a major heart attack.

    I went on 1200 calories for a while just to see what would happen. I plateaued. I then ate 1400-1500 and started to lose weight again.

    I am 5'2" , 47 yr old female who gave birth 3 times. I was 105 after my Csection and 115 after my last child-so no excuse from preggo weight

    Right now I am now 138 and feel healthier than I did in my 20s. I am eating good fuel foods, better fats, lots of veggies and fruits. I exercise 3-4 x a week. If I see I have eaten only 1100 or 1200 cals for the day (w/o exercise of course) I drink a protein shake.

    It is slow going. I dont mind because I am HEALTHY!!

    EAT people!!! :happy:
  • kerrilucko
    kerrilucko Posts: 3,852 Member
    My fitness pal put me at 1300 but that seems very little and I haven't lost a thing. I went to a bmr site and it said over 2000. I don't know what to do at all.

    what's your bmi?

    what is your height, weight, and activity level?

    Remember this, any website is only going to recommend based on "educated guesses". You may need to do some tweaking to get the numbers right for you. Don't be afraid to play a little bit with your calorie amounts, distribution, and macro nutrient percentages. this site (like me) isn't a god when it comes to calories, everyone is a little different. What works for me, may be a tiny bit different from what works for you, and so on and so forth.

    Ugh, I guess the first step to recovery is admitting my faults so here goes:
    BMI...38
    Height...5'6
    Weight...237
    Activity Level...I put sedentary because I'm a student
    I'm only 20 so I'm hoping I'm fixable. The other problem is that I have cerebral palsey so I can be limited when it comes to fitness. My left arm doesn't really do what it's told because I'm so weak from never using them.
    I changed my goals from 2 pounds per week which left me at 1300 cals to 1 pound per week which is 1800 cals...I just don't know.

    because you want to lose so much, it is usually safe for you to be at a 2 lb loss per week. Those in the obese category are usually safe to do that. Just, at 1300 cals, eat back your exercise cals too. Of course you're fixable! :laugh: If you're more comfortable at 1 lb a week you can do that instead but seriously, don't be afraid to go with 2lbs a week, at least until you're out of the Obese zone... that's what I did.:flowerforyou:
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    My fitness pal put me at 1300 but that seems very little and I haven't lost a thing. I went to a bmr site and it said over 2000. I don't know what to do at all.

    what's your bmi?

    what is your height, weight, and activity level?

    Remember this, any website is only going to recommend based on "educated guesses". You may need to do some tweaking to get the numbers right for you. Don't be afraid to play a little bit with your calorie amounts, distribution, and macro nutrient percentages. this site (like me) isn't a god when it comes to calories, everyone is a little different. What works for me, may be a tiny bit different from what works for you, and so on and so forth.

    Ugh, I guess the first step to recovery is admitting my faults so here goes:
    BMI...38
    Height...5'6
    Weight...237
    Activity Level...I put sedentary because I'm a student
    I'm only 20 so I'm hoping I'm fixable. The other problem is that I have cerebral palsey so I can be limited when it comes to fitness. My left arm doesn't really do what it's told because I'm so weak from never using them.
    I changed my goals from 2 pounds per week which left me at 1300 cals to 1 pound per week which is 1800 cals...I just don't know.

    Steph I am so proud of you!! 25 pounds gone....forever!!

    can you lift light weights? Ask the Dr first but I bet with light weights you could increase the power in yoru left arm. Even 1 or 2 pounds with a few reps each morning.

    You are doign so well!!! So proud of you!!:flowerforyou: Jeannie
  • kerrilucko
    kerrilucko Posts: 3,852 Member
    I want to throw a few pennies in the pond.

    I know a lady who is skinny (think Olive Oyl) She barely ate anything all day long. Pretzels or such.

    In the lunch room ppl would comment they wish they could eat like her so they could lose weight.

    She is the 1st of my friends to have a major heart attack.

    I went on 1200 calories for a while just to see what would happen. I plateaued. I then ate 1400-1500 and started to lose weight again.

    I am 5'2" , 47 yr old female who gave birth 3 times. I was 105 after my Csection and 115 after my last child-so no excuse from preggo weight

    Right now I am now 138 and feel healthier than I did in my 20s. I am eating good fuel foods, better fats, lots of veggies and fruits. I exercise 3-4 x a week. If I see I have eaten only 1100 or 1200 cals for the day (w/o exercise of course) I drink a protein shake.

    It is slow going. I dont mind because I am HEALTHY!!

    Eat PEOPLE!!! :happy:

    don't forget you also look fabulous! :flowerforyou:
  • age1389
    age1389 Posts: 1,160 Member
    How and where can you get your fat measured? I remember they did it gym class but haven't gotten it done since then....
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    How and where can you get your fat measured? I remember they did it gym class but haven't gotten it done since then....

    I googled our local University and found they have an entire clinic for their students. I am going to schedule a full work up and it is free!!
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I want to throw a few pennies in the pond.

    I know a lady who is skinny (think Olive Oyl) She barely ate anything all day long. Pretzels or such.

    In the lunch room ppl would comment they wish they could eat like her so they could lose weight.

    She is the 1st of my friends to have a major heart attack.

    I went on 1200 calories for a while just to see what would happen. I plateaued. I then ate 1400-1500 and started to lose weight again.

    I am 5'2" , 47 yr old female who gave birth 3 times. I was 105 after my Csection and 115 after my last child-so no excuse from preggo weight

    Right now I am now 138 and feel healthier than I did in my 20s. I am eating good fuel foods, better fats, lots of veggies and fruits. I exercise 3-4 x a week. If I see I have eaten only 1100 or 1200 cals for the day (w/o exercise of course) I drink a protein shake.

    It is slow going. I dont mind because I am HEALTHY!!

    Eat PEOPLE!!! :happy:

    don't forget you also look fabulous! :flowerforyou:

    Oh you are so sweet Keri:blushing:

    And I didnt mean you had to eat some people:huh: You will NOT lose weight this way.:laugh: :laugh:
  • age1389
    age1389 Posts: 1,160 Member
    How and where can you get your fat measured? I remember they did it gym class but haven't gotten it done since then....

    I googled our local University and found they have an entire clinic for their students. I am going to schedule a full work up and it is free!!

    Oh wow that's cool, I'll have to look into that... Thanks..
  • Recently I've been reading some stuff by Covert Bailey. Covert Bailey earned his undergraduate degree at Harvard and received a M.S. degree in biochemistry from MIT. So I'm assuming he knows what he is talking about. He has been studying "fatness" for many, many years. The first book of his I read was Fit or Fat back in the early 80s. I would highly recommend his books. Anyhow, the point of this is that he says that men should have a body fat % (BF%) of 15 and women 22. He says that these are just guidelines kind of like blood pressure of 120/80 is a guideline. I found it really interesting that he says the average man is 22% fat and the average woman is 32% fat. It just goes to show that the average man and woman are over-fat. Just a few more numbers because I find this really interesting. The lowest BF% he ever test was 1% and 6% (man/woman) and the highest he ever tested was 55% and 68%. Anyhow, if you have a NetLibrary account you can read his book, The Ultimate Fit or Fat online for free.
  • Tess
    Tess Posts: 16
    Ok there are 500 000 000 replies but i'll say what my nutritionist and personal trainer said.

    I've been trying to loose extra fat for about 2 years, and do aprox 12hours or more of cardio exercise plus weight toning a week and i see 0 results. Absolutely NONE, no more muscle tone, no loss of fat, not change in inches no change in weight.

    Why???

    She said i'm likely not eating enough actually. Apparently eating too little has the EXACT same effect as eating too much. She said i should be getting 2100 cal per day (from very good sources of course). She said if i'm eating too little it's likely the reason that my motabalism has stalled.
  • Hi, i'm 5'5" and weigh 184lbs and my recommended calorie intake is 1200. I did a BMR thingy and it told me i needed 1700 calories just to function. Iv had no problem only eating 1200, in fact i'm eating less cos i now eat loads of fruit and salad etc to fill me up.

    I have a friend who is a body builder and he NEVER counts calories in food he always counts the fat content.

    calories give me energy, i work night shifts so binge on junk cos they are high colorie and high sugar (and high fat)

    Basically its a case of eating everything in moderation and exercising regualrly. It just become too much like hard work when u count things and weigh things. I just can't be arsed with all the fuss!!!

    Now I use a smaller plate and don't pile food to compensate therefore shrinking my portion size. I now have a smoothie for breakfast and supper made with 5 pieces of fruit and like i say i have more veg/salad that pots/pasta etc.

    Ive read thru the forums and have read of people injecting themselves, only eating carbs one day, veg the next, protein the next. I cant ever imagine injecting myself to lose weight.

    A BALANCED DIET AND EXERCISE IS THE WAY!!!!
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