Great Tasting and Good For You Carbs???

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  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Wheat Belly was a huge eye opener for me. Glad someone finally wrote a book explaining why wheat is NOT appropriate for our genetic make-up.


    Everything that moron ever said is wrong.

    http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/01/physician-phollies-ii-dr-william-wheat.html

    Yes, so many Cardiologists are considered "morons". I suppose you're far more qualified.
  • hbm616
    hbm616 Posts: 377 Member
    If you like bread then eat it!

    I personally don't want to give up bread so I just stick to portion control. The loaf I buy is a12 grain from whole foods and I try to only have one piece at a time (110 calories per slice) I eat a lot of open face egg sandwiches for breakfast or half sandwiches with plenty of raw vegetables on the side. If I buy a baguette I just make sure to weigh my piece so I know how much I'm actually eating..that way I don't "accidentally" mow down on half a loaf!
  • Not sure where you are, but I am in Canada and we have a bread called Squirrely Bread. Its very hearty and tasty. You know you have had a piece of bread when you eat that....I like it with Peanut butter & butter (which probably explains why I need to lose so much weight!!)
  • rosewatershay
    rosewatershay Posts: 39 Member
    Healthy Life has a 35 calorie a slice bread; white, 100% whole wheat, and Italian. Also have you tried the bagels thins?
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Whole wheat or any kind of wheat is bad for you.

    Stop making things up.

    she isnt making things up. just because you disagree, doesnt mean she made it up. grains dont offer anything that cant be obtained from a better source. you know it.
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Wheat Belly was a huge eye opener for me. Glad someone finally wrote a book explaining why wheat is NOT appropriate for our genetic make-up.


    Everything that moron ever said is wrong.

    http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/01/physician-phollies-ii-dr-william-wheat.html

    Yes, so many Cardiologists are considered "morons". I suppose you're far more qualified.

    LOL @ the appeal to authority. How, exactly is a cardiologist qualified to make the claims that this clown does? If you actually read the article, you would see that he lacks basic understanding of human physiology.

    Case in point.

    WheatBelly: "–Triglyceride-containing lipoproteins, such as chylomicrons and its remnants, are toxic to pancreatic beta cells: lipotoxicity."

    Response: " Chylomicrons, folks, as any idiot introductory soft-science nutrition student will learn, are the lipoprotein particles that carry dietary fat in the bloodstream. Their triglyceride load is delivered to peripheral tissues for energy and the adipose tissue (the proportion of which is determined by nutrient state and size of fat load with more going to periphery in fasted state, and more going to adipose tissue in recently fed state and/or large fat load). When these chylomicrons are depleted of triglycerides, they become .... chylomicron remnants (nothing fancy about that name!). Bottom line, chylomicrons themselves have nothing to do with carbohydrates in general, or any carbohydrate or protein component of wheat in particular. Zilch, nada, etc. "
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member

    LOL @ the appeal to authority. How, exactly is a cardiologist qualified to make the claims that this clown does?

    how exactly are you qualified to spout all your claims?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Wheat Belly was a huge eye opener for me. Glad someone finally wrote a book explaining why wheat is NOT appropriate for our genetic make-up.


    Everything that moron ever said is wrong.

    http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/01/physician-phollies-ii-dr-william-wheat.html

    Yes, so many Cardiologists are considered "morons". I suppose you're far more qualified.

    LOL @ the appeal to authority. How, exactly is a cardiologist qualified to make the claims that this clown does? If you actually read the article, you would see that he lacks basic understanding of human physiology.

    Dr Oz is ok though, right?
  • jlohcook
    jlohcook Posts: 228 Member
    I eat bread everyday and I'm still losing weight or have kept my weight as is. I'm at 119, at 5ft 3inches, dropped 2 pounds over the last 2 weeks keeping to my diet of bread and white rice.

    I've been baking my own bread and realized that many store bought bread esp the white loaves are high on butter ( fats) and sugar and some with milk, tHat you really don't need that extra in your body. So, now I bake Italian bread that's mainly made up of salt, flour, olive oil, yeast and water. I add in things like olives, walnuts that are really nutritious. And you may also check out artisan loaves that usually have only the 4 main ingredients of flour, salt, water and yeast ( usually natural)

    Even store bought whole wheat bread or light rye may be filled with lots of sugar, butter, to make them soft, and those that have whole grains, Ok, some are good, but if you break down to the calories, all those whole grains are high in calories by itself. And you may be under counting your calories. So, be careful with what you buy. I don't like whole wheat bread as well, so I usually stick to white bread, or mix a quarter portion of rye or whole wheat flour. When you buy, you may look for light rye, Which I find taste better than whole wheat if you don't like the taste of whole wheat.

    The key is not to go over board with bread and white rice. I usually take my bread in the morning, 2 slices up to 100g, eat them with peanut butter 1 spoonful, that will already be about 250-300 calories, or eat with 1/2 avocado, or tuna, or cheese ( Gouda -25g). And lunch is 1/2 cup rice or max up to 100g pasta, try to keep 50 g if possible, with meat and vegetables. What I do is keep such complex carbo out in dinner. ie, no rice, no bread for dinner. Ok, Once awhile I will though.

    Keep away from donuts, high on sugar and they are deep fried, croissants or flaky pastries, pie, those sweet dough with lots of cream in them, those are the ones that have lots of butter and sugar. I found out that croissants from Starbucks is 330 calories high in fats and sugar! I stayed away from it after that. Well, unless I have calories, sugar, fats to spare, I will treat myself to that.

    Other carbo are potatoes - love making potato egg salad, No mayo, just slightly salted with black pepper, If you like, put some cheese on it.

    Yam or sweet potatoes are also great tasting carbs. Make them into mash or add into your chicken or meat when you bake or grill. They are great tasting on its own.

    Hope this helps explains that your carbo can be great tasting!
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member

    LOL @ the appeal to authority. How, exactly is a cardiologist qualified to make the claims that this clown does?

    how exactly are you qualified to spout all your claims?

    What claims have I made that haven't been backed with evidence?
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    What I said made no sense without the quote below.
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.
  • SweetSammie
    SweetSammie Posts: 391 Member
    I like Ezekial Sesame ...
    BUT if the cals are the issue, Arnold Whole Grain Sandwich thins are good...

    Quinoa (I'm sure that's spelled wrong), is DELICIOUS and super healthy. I also like brown basmati rice a lot. I consider sweet potatoes a good, nutrient rich way to "spend" my carbs.

    I've learned to love a good whole wheat wrap for a sandwich, but the "wrap" size tortillas are HUGE, so I'll use regular size tortillas to make wraps, or eat 1/2 of a big one.
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    Why do you think this matters.

    Do you understand how evolutionary adaptations work? Or the role of gut-microbia in human digestion?
  • popat89
    popat89 Posts: 83 Member
    Hey! I looked and searched for a bread that was healthy and delicious. I really liked Ezekeil 4:9 for the health aspect but it was just okay taste wise. At 80 cals a slice it didn't kill my diary.

    Then, I found trader joe's sprouted whole wheat fiber bread. It's 90 calories a slice and I think it's much more fluffy and delicious than Ezekeil.

    If you are just looking for low calorie bread, and you don't really care much about how healthy it is the Sara Lee 45 calorie bread tastes fine. It's just full of ingredients that aren't exactly wholesome.
  • erinkeely4
    erinkeely4 Posts: 408 Member
    One of my very favorite healthy carb foods is sweet potato!

    I'm gluten intolerant, so I don't have many options for bread... however, I love Udi's whole grain sandwich bread. It's 75 calories a slice. Udi's also makes amazing cinnamon raisin bread that's 80 calories per slice.
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    Why do you think this matters.

    Do you understand how evolutionary adaptations work? Or the role of gut-microbia in human digestion?

    Nope. But I'm sure that you've googled a few lame sources that back up your point of view that no one cares about.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    Why do you think this matters.

    Do you understand how evolutionary adaptations work? Or the role of gut-microbia in human digestion?

    is it really necessary to be so condescending to make your point?
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    One of my very favorite healthy carb foods is sweet potato!

    I'm gluten intolerant, so I don't have many options for bread... however, I love Udi's whole grain sandwich bread. It's 75 calories a slice. Udi's also makes amazing cinnamon raisin bread that's 80 calories per slice.

    Sweet potatoes are yummy. Too bad they can't make bread from them, right? That would be awesome.
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    Is there even such a thing as great tasting and good for you in the card department? My downfall is bread, all types of bread:sad: ! I know that the whole wheat is supposed to be my best friend, but can any of you recommend another type of bread with flavor, but doesn't spike my caloric count? I'm all eyes and ears on this one :happy:
    FRUIT!!!!!!! (skip the bread) The more fruit you eat, the the better equipped you are to handle cravings for the carbohydrates in bread.
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    Why do you think this matters.

    Do you understand how evolutionary adaptations work? Or the role of gut-microbia in human digestion?

    is it really necessary to be so condescending to make your point?

    I've found that people who don't put their real pictures and post tickers indicating zero weight loss are a) the first ones to offer advice b) always condescending
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    I doubt the people of the paleolithic would have wasted their time cultivating crops that were not nutritionally beneficial in some way. And while I am aware of the fact that cultures that relied on grains as a primary source of their nutrition did suffer from poor nutrition, that doesn't mean that grains can't be included in a healthy diet.
  • sherrirb
    sherrirb Posts: 1,649 Member
    I like Ezekial Sesame ...

    Ezekial breads are pretty good. They use sprouted grains which are supposed to be better for you.

    Just a note to the bicekering going back and forth over grains/breads being good or bad for you. This doesn't exactly pertain to the majority of the population. Everyone reacts differently to different foods. Some people out there cannot handle grains, but it is a small percentage. Just like there is a percentage of people who cant tolerate dairy. Don't throw everyone into the mix just because you feel that grains are bad for you.

    The OP wanted some ideas and alternatives to regular bread. Don't hi-jack her thread for your own cause.
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    Why do you think this matters.

    Do you understand how evolutionary adaptations work? Or the role of gut-microbia in human digestion?

    Nope. But I'm sure that you've googled a few lame sources that back up your point of view that no one cares about.

    Wow. Really? You don't care that it could be possible that the human body evolved and adapted to having grains as a part of our diet?
  • scagneti
    scagneti Posts: 707 Member
    There is a ton of research about how grains are bad for you. I didn't make it up, do some research.

    Humans have been cultivating and eating grains since, I don't know, the end of the paleolithic era. We've been eating them for at least 6,000, if not 8,000-10,000 years. If our bodies had problems with them (besides the people with gluten intolerance or celiac disease) we wouldn't have been eating them for so long.

    In other words, a small fraction of a percent of our existance.

    Why do you think this matters.

    Do you understand how evolutionary adaptations work? Or the role of gut-microbia in human digestion?

    Nope. But I'm sure that you've googled a few lame sources that back up your point of view that no one cares about.

    Wow. Really? You don't care that it could be possible that the human body evolved and adapted to having grains as a part of our diet?

    The awesome thing about the internet is one is always able to find like minded people -- no matter how pathetic. I'm sure that "Ron Swanson" was able to google such sources.
  • sherrirb
    sherrirb Posts: 1,649 Member
    we made cauliflower crust pizza for dinner tonight. i had half a 12" pie for just over 500 calories. and it was amazing.

    the calorie count isn't considerably different than a regular pizza, but the protein count is enormous and the fiber count is pretty good, too. the carb count is fantastic. and did i mention it is amazing? A.MA.ZING.

    http://www.recipegirl.com/2012/01/16/cauliflower-crust-hawaiian-pizza/

    there are all kinds of ways to put cauliflower into "bread" form, so you can feel somewhat relieved to satisfy a craving without blowing your carbs

    This is very interesting, I'm going to ahve to check into this. Thanks for sharing!
  • Christine1110
    Christine1110 Posts: 1,786 Member
    I don't eat bread very often....I love it, but it doesn't like me. When I do treat myself I eat Dave's killer sprouted grain. It is not low calorie but so yummy!!!

    Check it out http://www.daveskillerbread.com/killer-bread/nutritional-comparison.html
  • bugjudy
    bugjudy Posts: 2 Member
    Always look at the carb content of a loaf of bread -- try to select the ones that are 6 or 8% of daily recommended value. Allow yourself 2 slices per day.

    You'll be surprised to see so-called "healthy" bread can have up to 12%!

    My fav is SILVER HILLS Squirrelly Grain Bread - 6% - one of the lowest I can find.
  • brneydgrlie
    brneydgrlie Posts: 464 Member
    Try switching occasionally from bread to a more nutritionally dense carb, like quinoa. You can cook and eat it just like you would rice or oatmeal, and it's LOADED with vitamins and minerals.

    If you really want bread, try a sprouted grain bread, like Ezekiel bread.
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