Gaining muscle/losing fat? Help!!

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  • lenatuck
    lenatuck Posts: 45 Member
    A few observations. First, after looking at your profile pic, I doubt you are "flabby". You are only 115 and have a great shape. 2nd, I plugged your numbers into the BMR calulator on fat2fitradio.com and gave you a weight loss goal of 5 lbs and a very active (hard sports 6 to 7 days per week) and it gave me a calorie goal for you of 1834. Sound like you are eating at maintenance. You won't lose body fat or will very slowly at maintenance.

    Also, you've only been lifting for 4 weeks and the weight your doing is not that heavy. I'd suggest taking a look at a progressive program like Stronglifts 5x5 or Starting Strength. You are probably not growing new muscle tissue but developing what you had and it is also taking on some water and glycogen based on your training. That all will make them look bigger and more defined. It is difficult for a women to grow muscle tissue without a calorie surplus and even then it's tough in the absence of testosterone.

    Either way, you are not going to see hugely dramatic changes in 4 weeks. You are already pretty lean and in pretty good shape. That last bit of body fat is the hardest. Which raises another question. I know you think you are flabby but I don't see it. Do you know what your body fat % is? Generally it is not recommeded for a sexually mature woman to be at less than 15%.

    Oh why thank you! :glasses: umm well before i started using weights my body fat % was i think around 24% :\ i basically had no muscle, and still don't have a huge amount obviously but its getting there. yeah, i definitely need to invest in more weights! and

    also, as a side note im 20 years old and have basically never had muscle definition or any kind of fitness bone in my body before i started this! haha

    UGhhh this is so confusing! Shoud I just lower my calories then? everyone says something different :sick: :frown: :sad:
  • BigRich822
    BigRich822 Posts: 681
    You can not build muscle mass and lose fat at the same time. they are complete opossites so you would be working against yourself. Just keep doing what you are doing if you said you are building muscle and make sure you keep your protein high and then cut after a few weeks of bulking. If you are worried about getting to big. then Bulk for two weeks then cut 1. I do this right before my comps
  • nikkiprickett
    nikkiprickett Posts: 412 Member
    I recommend new rules of lifting for women to everyone, it's only like 15$ has a lot of good info!
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    A few observations. First, after looking at your profile pic, I doubt you are "flabby". You are only 115 and have a great shape. 2nd, I plugged your numbers into the BMR calulator on fat2fitradio.com and gave you a weight loss goal of 5 lbs and a very active (hard sports 6 to 7 days per week) and it gave me a calorie goal for you of 1834. Sound like you are eating at maintenance. You won't lose body fat or will very slowly at maintenance.

    Also, you've only been lifting for 4 weeks and the weight your doing is not that heavy. I'd suggest taking a look at a progressive program like Stronglifts 5x5 or Starting Strength. You are probably not growing new muscle tissue but developing what you had and it is also taking on some water and glycogen based on your training. That all will make them look bigger and more defined. It is difficult for a women to grow muscle tissue without a calorie surplus and even then it's tough in the absence of testosterone.

    Either way, you are not going to see hugely dramatic changes in 4 weeks. You are already pretty lean and in pretty good shape. That last bit of body fat is the hardest. Which raises another question. I know you think you are flabby but I don't see it. Do you know what your body fat % is? Generally it is not recommeded for a sexually mature woman to be at less than 15%.

    Oh why thank you! :glasses: umm well before i started using weights my body fat % was i think around 24% :\ i basically had no muscle, and still don't have a huge amount obviously but its getting there. yeah, i definitely need to invest in more weights! and

    also, as a side note im 20 years old and have basically never had muscle definition or any kind of fitness bone in my body before i started this! haha

    UGhhh this is so confusing! Shoud I just lower my calories then? everyone says something different :sick: :frown: :sad:

    I wouldn't lower my calories much if at all. You are not growing new mucsles but what you are experiencing is neuro musclular adaptation. It a good thing. Basically, your muscle tissues are perking up from the workouts for lack of a better term and are filling with water and glycogen. That is why you are seeing a slight weight gain. As muy friend Cris Anderson said on another thread, think of your muscles like a sponge and they are now absorbing water and glycogen and swelling up. This is not bad at all. It's goodYou did not gain fat in all likelihod. You starting BF is not bad. You lifting is maintaining your muscle tissue. If you really want to lose fat, reduce your calories by 300 or 400 and keep lifting. You'll lose mostly fat and a little muscle tissue but not much and you'll get leaner. An alternative is you can keep eating at maintenance and lifting. You will lose mostly fat doing this and probably little to no muscle. It will take longer this way but you have the best chance of keeping all your muscle mass. BTW, you'll see some difference is 4 weeks but again, it won't be dramatic. This is a change you are making for your life. It can't be rushed if you want the change to be permanent! Best wishes!
  • kirstyg1980
    kirstyg1980 Posts: 302


    , although most days I don't hit my 2000 cals and struggle to hit protein

    ^^^^

    This is your problem - you ned to hit your macros and eat enough
  • RonSwanson66
    RonSwanson66 Posts: 1,150 Member
    A few observations. First, after looking at your profile pic, I doubt you are "flabby". You are only 115 and have a great shape. 2nd, I plugged your numbers into the BMR calulator on fat2fitradio.com and gave you a weight loss goal of 5 lbs and a very active (hard sports 6 to 7 days per week) and it gave me a calorie goal for you of 1834. Sound like you are eating at maintenance. You won't lose body fat or will very slowly at maintenance.

    Also, you've only been lifting for 4 weeks and the weight your doing is not that heavy. I'd suggest taking a look at a progressive program like Stronglifts 5x5 or Starting Strength. You are probably not growing new muscle tissue but developing what you had and it is also taking on some water and glycogen based on your training. That all will make them look bigger and more defined. It is difficult for a women to grow muscle tissue without a calorie surplus and even then it's tough in the absence of testosterone.

    Either way, you are not going to see hugely dramatic changes in 4 weeks. You are already pretty lean and in pretty good shape. That last bit of body fat is the hardest. Which raises another question. I know you think you are flabby but I don't see it. Do you know what your body fat % is? Generally it is not recommeded for a sexually mature woman to be at less than 15%.

    Oh why thank you! :glasses: umm well before i started using weights my body fat % was i think around 24% :\ i basically had no muscle, and still don't have a huge amount obviously but its getting there. yeah, i definitely need to invest in more weights! and

    also, as a side note im 20 years old and have basically never had muscle definition or any kind of fitness bone in my body before i started this! haha

    UGhhh this is so confusing! Shoud I just lower my calories then? everyone says something different :sick: :frown: :sad:

    I wouldn't lower my calories much if at all. You are not growing new mucsles but what you are experiencing is neuro musclular adaptation. It a good thing. Basically, your muscle tissues are perking up from the workouts for lack of a better term and are filling with water and glycogen. That is why you are seeing a slight weight gain. As muy friend Cris Anderson said on another thread, think of your muscles like a sponge and they are now absorbing water and glycogen and swelling up. This is not bad at all. It's goodYou did not gain fat in all likelihod. You starting BF is not bad. You lifting is maintaining your muscle tissue. If you really want to lose fat, reduce your calories by 300 or 400 and keep lifting. You'll lose mostly fat and a little muscle tissue but not much and you'll get leaner. An alternative is you can keep eating at maintenance and lifting. You will lose mostly fat doing this and probably little to no muscle. It will take longer this way but you have the best chance of keeping all your muscle mass. BTW, you'll see some difference is 4 weeks but again, it won't be dramatic. This is a change you are making for your life. It can't be rushed if you want the change to be permanent! Best wishes!

    All of this.

    One thing that hasn't been mentioned is bone density. New trainees (especially women) will see an increase in bone density for the first few months of training. This is a good thing (especially given the propensity for osteoporosis later in life).
  • ichorica
    ichorica Posts: 475 Member
    Lots of great info folks. I have nothing to add. But give yourself time and I second the recommendation for The New Rules of Lifting.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    wait - what do you mean by strength training?
  • ozgurvh
    ozgurvh Posts: 182 Member
    lenatuck wrote: »
    So, about a month ago I started getting into using free weights more,
    I do strength 4 days a week and 2 days a week of HIIT cardio.
    I eat around 2000 calories, and I'm 5' and I currently weigh 115lbs, but I'm still pretty flabby.

    I seem to be gaining muscle but not losing fat? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, I've tried to do the TDEE Calculators to see if I'm eating the correct amount, but I'm not sure exactly what my activity level would be?

    Can someone pleeeeease give me advice! or if it is possible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time?

    Please !

    We all have different bodies, so we have slightly different metabolisms, so each body can accumulate fat in a different way , so other war around same for loosing fat. Just you need to be patient till visible weight loss. You can do body fat analyse so it will tell you how is your body is transitioning. Continue to workout and careful about food.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    ozgurvh wrote: »
    lenatuck wrote: »
    So, about a month ago I started getting into using free weights more,
    I do strength 4 days a week and 2 days a week of HIIT cardio.
    I eat around 2000 calories, and I'm 5' and I currently weigh 115lbs, but I'm still pretty flabby.

    I seem to be gaining muscle but not losing fat? I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, I've tried to do the TDEE Calculators to see if I'm eating the correct amount, but I'm not sure exactly what my activity level would be?

    Can someone pleeeeease give me advice! or if it is possible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time?

    Please !

    We all have different bodies, so we have slightly different metabolisms, so each body can accumulate fat in a different way , so other war around same for loosing fat. Just you need to be patient till visible weight loss. You can do body fat analyse so it will tell you how is your body is transitioning. Continue to workout and careful about food.

    FYI, this thread is three years old.
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