Have you read this article?

Demetria
Demetria Posts: 178
edited September 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
I saw this headline "Why Exercise Won't Make you Thin" on yahoo.com. Here's the link,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090806/hl_time/08599191485700

I couldn't believe it! Just because this guy is frustrated with his own situation (hates his workouts and still has belly fat) that he goes and finds some studies that actually discount the weight loss benefit of exercising. The one study of the groups of women didn't even account for their eating habits, just their workout time. I don't consider that an accurate study.

Just needed to vent. It's like we are trying to get the right information out there and this guy and those other idiots just add their own crap, no wonder people are scratching their heads in confusion.

Demetria

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  • JessiJean
    JessiJean Posts: 1,207 Member
    Thanks for sharing this!!!
  • carrieberrie
    carrieberrie Posts: 356 Member
    Its all about food. 85% diet 15% exercise. You dont have to exercise to lose weight.
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    Well, it's true. No matter how much you exercise, if your caloric intake is greater than your caloric expenditure, you're not going to lose fat. Exercise is excellent preventative medicine, but poor in terms of 'treatment'. I would go so far as to say it's 99% diet, because that has to be in check before anything else will happen. Exercise may change how you utilize/store nutrients somewhat, but it won't cause fat loss without a caloric deficit. Like carrie said, you don't have to exercise to lose weight. It just makes it easier by wasting calories to create a deficit without having to drastically cut caloric intake.
  • Girl there is no substitute to hard work - so lets continue that sweat !
  • azwildcatfan94
    azwildcatfan94 Posts: 314 Member
    And exercising alone won't make you lose weight. Generally, you will up you food intake, if you aren't dieting. Well, that is what I ended up doing anyway.

    However, I am sure everyone agrees that increasing the calories burned, while maintaining the same number of calories in, will reduce fat. And, I am sure most people will agree that there are tons of health benefits to regular exercise.

    So, I guess you have to look at the indivdual's overall motivation. The author was probably on a deadline and just needed to get something turned in and was frustrated that his exercising wasn't producing the right results for him.
  • ivykivy
    ivykivy Posts: 2,970 Member
    I posted the other day about a football player who lost weight by cutting out the vodka. I'm sure he exercised a lot but the calorie content and effects of the alcohol were enough to negate the whole workout.
  • Magenta15
    Magenta15 Posts: 850 Member
    lol people will make any excuse, have you seen the research saying
    that there is a fat disease? I dont mean an epidemic of fat people i mean they are trying to say there is a disease [bug, however you want to word it] that makes us fat....how many ppl will use this as an excuse and continue over eating all the crap :ohwell:

    LOL
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    I just saw this guy on CNN. While I agree that it's about diet and exercise, not just exercise alone, he is an IDIOT. Initially he irritated me when he said exercise makes you hungrier. Exercise is actually an appetite suppressant because it stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, which reduces gastric activity in the 'fight or flight' mechanism. You may become hungrier afterward because of changes in blood sugar. Then he irritated me by saying that you'll automatically eat more (garbage) because you'll reward yourself. Well, if you do that in moderation, there's no problem with that. He also totally failed to realize that human beings are capable of higher cognitive function and can, in fact, count and limit calories.
    What REALLY broke the camels back was that he said 'CONVERTING FAT TO MUSCLE' like a MILLION TIMES. Fat doesn't convert to muscle! That's like converting skin to hair! NOT possible.

    DUDE, if you're going on national television to discuss a topic you've written about at length, KNOW WHAT THE **** YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I just saw this guy on CNN. While I agree that it's about diet and exercise, not just exercise alone, he is an IDIOT. Initially he irritated me when he said exercise makes you hungrier. Exercise is actually an appetite suppressant because it stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, which reduces gastric activity in the 'fight or flight' mechanism. You may become hungrier afterward because of changes in blood sugar. Then he irritated me by saying that you'll automatically eat more (garbage) because you'll reward yourself. Well, if you do that in moderation, there's no problem with that. He also totally failed to realize that human beings are capable of higher cognitive function and can, in fact, count and limit calories.
    What REALLY broke the camels back was that he said 'CONVERTING FAT TO MUSCLE' like a MILLION TIMES. Fat doesn't convert to muscle! That's like converting skin to hair! NOT possible.

    DUDE, if you're going on national television to discuss a topic you've written about at length, KNOW WHAT THE **** YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

    LOL, I was thinking the same thing lady. After I read that article (actually only half of it, I got reaaaaaly annoyed and had to stop.) I started looking for the comments section. But of course, there wasn't one. I was gonna lay into that idiot!
  • azwildcatfan94
    azwildcatfan94 Posts: 314 Member
    I just saw this guy on CNN. While I agree that it's about diet and exercise, not just exercise alone, he is an IDIOT. Initially he irritated me when he said exercise makes you hungrier. Exercise is actually an appetite suppressant because it stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, which reduces gastric activity in the 'fight or flight' mechanism. You may become hungrier afterward because of changes in blood sugar. Then he irritated me by saying that you'll automatically eat more (garbage) because you'll reward yourself. Well, if you do that in moderation, there's no problem with that. He also totally failed to realize that human beings are capable of higher cognitive function and can, in fact, count and limit calories.
    What REALLY broke the camels back was that he said 'CONVERTING FAT TO MUSCLE' like a MILLION TIMES. Fat doesn't convert to muscle! That's like converting skin to hair! NOT possible.

    DUDE, if you're going on national television to discuss a topic you've written about at length, KNOW WHAT THE **** YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

    I do think it is important to understand about ourselves. I for one will have a tendency to want to reward myself after exercising and in the past have chosen an unwise reward. However, if you share my tendency, rather than saying we can do nothing about it, we need to each come up with our own methods of counteracting it. For example, for me, instead of going to the olive garden and eating Chicken Alfredo, breadsticks, and salad, I choose to eat one square of dark chocolate (and not every time I exercise either). I am still rewarding myself, but I'm staying within my calorie allowance. But, what works for me, might not work for you.

    I also thought it funny when he said that exercise makes you hungrier. Both in reading and personal experience, I found exercise makes me LESS hungry. In fact, if I am going to exercise, I will try to eat more of my calories before I go (I exercise after work), because I know I won't want to eat much afterwards, and I know I will have earned exercise calories!
  • songbyrdsweet
    songbyrdsweet Posts: 5,691 Member
    I just saw this guy on CNN. While I agree that it's about diet and exercise, not just exercise alone, he is an IDIOT. Initially he irritated me when he said exercise makes you hungrier. Exercise is actually an appetite suppressant because it stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, which reduces gastric activity in the 'fight or flight' mechanism. You may become hungrier afterward because of changes in blood sugar. Then he irritated me by saying that you'll automatically eat more (garbage) because you'll reward yourself. Well, if you do that in moderation, there's no problem with that. He also totally failed to realize that human beings are capable of higher cognitive function and can, in fact, count and limit calories.
    What REALLY broke the camels back was that he said 'CONVERTING FAT TO MUSCLE' like a MILLION TIMES. Fat doesn't convert to muscle! That's like converting skin to hair! NOT possible.

    DUDE, if you're going on national television to discuss a topic you've written about at length, KNOW WHAT THE **** YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.


    Same here! He's just a 'senior writer'. Okay, so, you have no experience or knowledge in the subject area, but because you're a senior writer, you get published. Awesome. :huh:
    LOL, I was thinking the same thing lady. After I read that article (actually only half of it, I got reaaaaaly annoyed and had to stop.) I started looking for the comments section. But of course, there wasn't one. I was gonna lay into that idiot!
  • Demetria
    Demetria Posts: 178
    Thanks for feeling my pain, lol. So when he was on CNN did they have anyone there to refute him? I doubt it, don't you just love the media:ohwell: I don't know what is worse having this idiot talk about this or some celebrity who think they are an expert.

    Demetria
  • m2kjenn
    m2kjenn Posts: 1,671 Member
    I saw this story this morning. Felt exactly the same as what everyone is saying here. Glad others felt the same.
  • RecliningFigure
    RecliningFigure Posts: 214 Member
    I see so much garbage on Yahoo news, I look at it as a source of comedy. This guy has really missed the point. Yes, of course it's about diet and food intake. But exercise is not just about weight. It's about a healthy body and mind, it's about fighting disease and building strength (which I know we all know here). The title itself gives away the superficiality of his "work."
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Well, it's true. No matter how much you exercise, if your caloric intake is greater than your caloric expenditure, you're not going to lose fat. Exercise is excellent preventative medicine, but poor in terms of 'treatment'. I would go so far as to say it's 99% diet, because that has to be in check before anything else will happen. Exercise may change how you utilize/store nutrients somewhat, but it won't cause fat loss without a caloric deficit. Like carrie said, you don't have to exercise to lose weight. It just makes it easier by wasting calories to create a deficit without having to drastically cut caloric intake.

    :heart: So true, but then I wouldn't have these lovely muscles that are starting to poke through! WOOT!!
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Well, it's true. No matter how much you exercise, if your caloric intake is greater than your caloric expenditure, you're not going to lose fat. Exercise is excellent preventative medicine, but poor in terms of 'treatment'. I would go so far as to say it's 99% diet, because that has to be in check before anything else will happen. Exercise may change how you utilize/store nutrients somewhat, but it won't cause fat loss without a caloric deficit. Like carrie said, you don't have to exercise to lose weight. It just makes it easier by wasting calories to create a deficit without having to drastically cut caloric intake.

    :heart: So true, but then I wouldn't have these lovely muscles that are starting to poke through! WOOT!!

    Just read the article. If I could respond I would say

    " If you didnt exercise like that you would probably be 250 pounds and have high BP or cholesterol."

    Seriously, stupid.:sick:
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