Leptin and weight loss

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18393391

Just read this article and thought I would share it.

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  • velloxal
    velloxal Posts: 78 Member
    Interesting article BUT most likely Corporations will still use High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS).
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
  • Cait_Sidhe
    Cait_Sidhe Posts: 3,150 Member
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.
  • douglasmobbs
    douglasmobbs Posts: 563 Member
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.

    On the whole they were less fat as we are as a whole. Two of the things that have changed from now to then is the diet and level of physical activity in day to day life. We are living longer as a whole, but that has a lot to do with advances in medical science.

    I don't think the answer is eat like our grandparents, but there is a lot of the 1950's diet that was better, particularly the amount of vegetables in the diet, and less processed food.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Interesting article BUT most likely Corporations will still use High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS).
    Mainly in America, less so elsewhere and very much less so in Europe.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Low sugar versions still have to have some "stuff" in them, so an artificial sweetener may be used and then some modified starch or maltodextrin or other carbohydrate to replace the mass with the net result of zero compared to using sugar.

    If they don't replace the sugar with other carbs then it's likely to be replaced with fat !
  • lacewitch
    lacewitch Posts: 766 Member
    try tasting a baby biscuit with only sweetness from fruits no added sugar ( you can find them but don't forget to check for hidden sugars) they are so much less sweet than adult biscuits - its amazing how much sugar we are used to as a base level.
  • sammyjbray
    sammyjbray Posts: 146 Member
    My older daughter is intolerant to corn syrup, so I try to avoid it when shopping. It is hidden in so many things!
  • jonski1968
    jonski1968 Posts: 4,490 Member
    Love this bit of the article..

    "By the time anyone began to ask if it was a good thing to replace fat with sugar, it was too late - but it was a decision with huge implications for the obesity crisis.

    "If fat's the cause, that's a good thing to do," says Dr Lustig. "If sugar's the cause, that's a disastrous thing to do… and I think over the last 30 years we've answered that question."
  • kyle4jem
    kyle4jem Posts: 1,400 Member
    HFCS is generally not used in the UK and EU as a food additive.

    Refined sugar has been in our diets for at least a couple of hundred years, although there is no doubt that its use in modern food processing is excessive, even though the use of sweeteners such as aspartame, xylitol and sucralose is gaining in popularity if only to try and reduce the carb content of some common foods.

    I'm surprised that more research hasn't been done in providing Leptin and Ghrelin supplements to help redress the balance in those adults (myself included) who no longer seem to have that natural inhibitor that tells the brain. "STOP EATING!"
  • douglasmobbs
    douglasmobbs Posts: 563 Member
    It is scary when you search for Leptin supplement on google. I found loads of people dressed in white coats that make Dr Oz look credible.
  • kyle4jem
    kyle4jem Posts: 1,400 Member
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.
    Even during the War when food was rationed and out diet was supposedly at its healthiest in modern times, there were always folks who were incredibly well-fed and overweight, and it wasn't just amongst the more privileged upper-classes.
  • Krazy_Kat
    Krazy_Kat Posts: 212
    HFCS isn't really in Australia thank goodness.

    I wonder if a little bit of low processed cain sugar is better than loads of artificial sweetner? It's gotta be better than HFCS anyway.
  • kyle4jem
    kyle4jem Posts: 1,400 Member
    It is scary when you search for Leptin supplement on google. I found loads of people dressed in white coats that make Dr Oz look credible.
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
  • LexyDB
    LexyDB Posts: 261
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.

    But never obese like teenages of today. Only in America.
  • kyle4jem
    kyle4jem Posts: 1,400 Member
    HFCS isn't really in Australia thank goodness.

    I wonder if a little bit of low processed cain sugar is better than loads of artificial sweetner? It's gotta be better than HFCS anyway.
    The thing with a lot of artificial sweeteners is that they are only artificial insofar as they are not sugar/sucrose. They are not necessarily bad for us in regular use.

    We have become creatures of convenience and too few of us take the time to source local produce, prepare it and cook with it. We also rely on a diet that is carb-heavy (bread, pasta, rice and potatoes - the first two of which are also Calorie-dense) and the supplement that with loads of cheese and cream or fried foods and while not necessarily unhealthy, it's the sheer quantity and regularity of eating that way that can be our downfall.
  • mcarter99
    mcarter99 Posts: 1,666 Member
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.

    There was always some obesity, but it was under 10% in those years. The trend did a quick acceleration around the 80s.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20758/

    Scroll down to and click on the graph that's fig. 16.
  • Krazy_Kat
    Krazy_Kat Posts: 212
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.

    There was always some obesity, but it was under 10% in those years. The trend did a quick acceleration around the 80s.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20758/

    Scroll down to and click on the graph that's fig. 16.

    Was that about when low fat became the rage?
  • wolfi622
    wolfi622 Posts: 206
    Read this yesterday. Good article. But you need to parse out the bits which are based on science and good medicine from the parts that are the Guardian doing its usual - Corporations=evil routine.
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.

    There was always some obesity, but it was under 10% in those years. The trend did a quick acceleration around the 80s.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20758/

    Scroll down to and click on the graph that's fig. 16.

    Was that about when low fat became the rage?

    Yes. This is what I'm talking about. Of course some people have probably been fat at just about every stage of humanity. However, when what we ate was all natural and our bodies could identify it, use what they could and dispose of the rest with our very detailed and wonderful endocrine system, obesity was much less prevalent. For that matter, so was cancer.

    I'm convinced cancer has to be from what we eat. A friend of mine has been battling throat cancer and his team of doctors and techs at the cancer clinic have all said to him you have to consider sugar to be poison. It helps cancer grow at the expense of healthy tissues.
  • Cait_Sidhe
    Cait_Sidhe Posts: 3,150 Member
    Even low-sugar food items are not the ideal since they will just be made with artificial chemical sweeteners and sugar alcohols... what we need to do is get back to eating the way our great grandparents did.
    Cause our great grandparents were never fat.

    There was always some obesity, but it was under 10% in those years. The trend did a quick acceleration around the 80s.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK20758/

    Scroll down to and click on the graph that's fig. 16.

    Was that about when low fat became the rage?

    Yes. This is what I'm talking about. Of course some people have probably been fat at just about every stage of humanity. However, when what we ate was all natural and our bodies could identify it, use what they could and dispose of the rest with our very detailed and wonderful endocrine system, obesity was much less prevalent. For that matter, so was cancer.

    I'm convinced cancer has to be from what we eat. A friend of mine has been battling throat cancer and his team of doctors and techs at the cancer clinic have all said to him you have to consider sugar to be poison. It helps cancer grow at the expense of healthy tissues.
    Also, cancer is not new. There are egyptian mummies whose cause of death was cancer.

    One reason everything may seem more prevalent is that the population is monitored much more closely than say, the middle ages. Or even the 1950s. Also, the population has basically exploded so everything is prevalent. Cancer seems more prevalent because people are living longer.