At My Wits End
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I think that is very very harsh. The fact I have asked for peoples help, and after 25 days, acknowledging that what I'm doing is not working means I WANT to do this. I completely refute what you have said. As per someones advice, I have also tweaked my settings on here, and within the next few minutes, I am off to the shops to buy some greens, blueberries, raspberries, peppers, chicken filletts.
If I had no intention of changing or didn't wanted to change, I wouldn't embarrass myself in asking for peoples help. In future, please could you save your negativity and aim it somewhere else? I want this for me, and any support and help, and guidance I can obtain I'm appreciative of, and I will not let people like you put me off asking for help either.I'm tempted to be mean, like really mean, just because your post sounds like you're determined not to change. You can change. You just have to try new things little by little. Weight loss is a learning process with setbacks and successes along the way. You have to build up to many different habits that will be sustainable for life.
monitor your drink intake, and see if you're getting enough water, and remove other liquids from your diet until you can put them back reasonably.
foods you don't like, try them new ways, get a cookbook.
exercise, don't have to pass out or be sore for it to be a good workout, just need to do one, and invest at least 15-30minutes a day if that's what you can manage. there are a million workouts on youtube, even ones you can do from your chair.
there are many people who think they don't like certain foods, when in reality they may not have eaten them in a long time, or can't remember what they didn't like about it. try different brands of food items.
worst case, you do hate everything, take what you like and have smaller portions of it, that should help as well.
AND, you COMPLETELY ignored the advice that followed, oh well0 -
I can relate to what you say about being a picky eater, but you can overcome it. For instance i used to hate peppers (still can't stand them raw) but i started adding a bit to soups and after a while I got to like the taste. So I tried them roasted with cous cous and feta cheese and now it is one of my favourites. To start with I was eating things I wasn't keen on because I know they are good for me. I am looking at is as like introducing new foods to a toddler. Apparently you have to give it to them up to 20 times before they accept them, so i am doing this for me. Next big step for me is fish. I know it is lean and very nutritious but I have it in my head that I won't like it. I tried tuna steak recently and although it is not my favourite food ever, it's not awful and i will eat it. Try stirfies if you like green veggies with a bit of chicken breast, add a low cal sauce and it is very tasty. I had beef strips, stirfry veggies, noodles ands sauce for lunch today and it was a massive plateful for under 400 cals! You can add me if you like and I'll try my best to encourage you and give you ideas.0
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i noticed that your daily goal changes every day. sometimes the calorie goal is 2,000 and sometimes it is over 3,000. it changes daily. are you changing this? i agree with the earlier post that you might need to stay with a goal and a plan for a few weeks, maybe a month. i have always been told, you havent gained that much in a day or a week or a month, you cant lose it all in a day a week or a month. consistency is key0
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Almost 4 weeks in and I'm not losing. I read so much confliscting advice. Up your calories, reduce them. I'm just so confused. I can't alter what I'm actually eating much as I'm a VERY fussy eater, and there's probably alot more foods I don't like, than actually like. People have also said ditch the scales, and go bt measurements, but my measurements have increased.
Just wish I would see results, and know how many calories I should consume to get the desired results, as I'm adhering to what it tells me on here, yet it's still not working.
My advise, which you probably won't like is -
if you want this:
"Just wish I would see results"
You HAVE to change this:
"I can't alter what I'm actually eating much as I'm a VERY fussy eater"
There is no other way around it, in my opinion.0 -
I have been more than happy with the advice (consistent advice) others have provided, thank you
I think that is very very harsh. The fact I have asked for peoples help, and after 25 days, acknowledging that what I'm doing is not working means I WANT to do this. I completely refute what you have said. As per someones advice, I have also tweaked my settings on here, and within the next few minutes, I am off to the shops to buy some greens, blueberries, raspberries, peppers, chicken filletts.
If I had no intention of changing or didn't wanted to change, I wouldn't embarrass myself in asking for peoples help. In future, please could you save your negativity and aim it somewhere else? I want this for me, and any support and help, and guidance I can obtain I'm appreciative of, and I will not let people like you put me off asking for help either.I'm tempted to be mean, like really mean, just because your post sounds like you're determined not to change. You can change. You just have to try new things little by little. Weight loss is a learning process with setbacks and successes along the way. You have to build up to many different habits that will be sustainable for life.
monitor your drink intake, and see if you're getting enough water, and remove other liquids from your diet until you can put them back reasonably.
foods you don't like, try them new ways, get a cookbook.
exercise, don't have to pass out or be sore for it to be a good workout, just need to do one, and invest at least 15-30minutes a day if that's what you can manage. there are a million workouts on youtube, even ones you can do from your chair.
there are many people who think they don't like certain foods, when in reality they may not have eaten them in a long time, or can't remember what they didn't like about it. try different brands of food items.
worst case, you do hate everything, take what you like and have smaller portions of it, that should help as well.
AND, you COMPLETELY ignored the advice that followed, oh well0 -
I am a super picky eater so I pretty much eat the same thing every single day. I had lost 21 pounds, and then was stuck for almost 2 months, so I lowered my calorie intake to 1270 and I have lost 7 pounds since then (in 3 weeks). I also take a B12 vitamin every day. I walk every single day at 4.0 mph for at least 45 minutes. I eat my exercise calories back and I am not starving. I also drink lots and lots of water and no more diet coke. This is what works for me. Good luck to you!0
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I also wanted to just add that losing weight and making changes takes time. I can understand your frustration but 25 days is really nothing in the scope of making life-long changes.
good luck!
edited to add: darling I see no fruit or vegetables in your diary entries at all. this could be one of the reasons why the weight is not shifting. you need some of this fibre in your diet, you can't just get by on what you are eating. Are there any fruits or veg that you like at all?
also what about some good fats? you need to "oil up the machinery" to get things running. If there are any veggies you like, make a little salad out of them, and drizzle 5ml of olive oil on top, maybe add some white wine vinegar.
think about adding some colour to your food. right now it looks like there's a lot of brown or white. if veggies are challenging to you, pick one to try for a whole week straight and THEN give yourself a treat such as ice cream. Figure out some rewards for yourself (non-food are best but we all like a treat now and again) write them down where you can see them and then follow through.
Honestly you need to change the fussiness because in the end it's what is going to save you!!0 -
Only changes I have made are today as per someones advice. I had been eating back exercise kcal's though, if that's what you mean maybe?
Anyway, thank you for the support and advice everyone. I will continue to refer back to this when I need to. I have just been to my local supermarket, and stocked up on fresh chicken, apples, blueberries, raspberries, green beans, eggs, peppers, savoy cabbage, 1 kcal fry light, bananas. As for the processed foods I still have here, I can't afford to throw them, so I will have to use them up in small amounts until they are gone (only a few days worth).
Before using MFP, I lost almost 6 stone low carbing (and kept all bar 3lbs of it off), so to the person who seemed to believe I don't take my weighloss seriously, you can keep your comments and advice, and to everyone else, hopefully my unprocessed ingredients should make a difference.
Before I forget, somebody made a good comment about food prepartation kcals, and I agree, I won't add things like that anymore, they don't break a sweat. I do however work hard on my Wii (daily if possible), and finish with a bright red sweat face and ringing wet hair! I also swim a mile each week.i noticed that your daily goal changes every day. sometimes the calorie goal is 2,000 and sometimes it is over 3,000. it changes daily. are you changing this? i agree with the earlier post that you might need to stay with a goal and a plan for a few weeks, maybe a month. i have always been told, you havent gained that much in a day or a week or a month, you cant lose it all in a day a week or a month. consistency is key0 -
Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.0
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Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.0 -
Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
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Once you stop blowing up your taste buds with refined sugar and heaps of sodium for a couple of weeks they will adapt. Fruit tastes much, much better to me than it used to, and things with low sodium taste plenty salty.0
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Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
no idea what this means Dan so whatever joke that is supposed to be is lost on me...0 -
I think after reading, and taking on board comments, it's about being sensible. I will use the advice, and discover what works for me. I still have weightwatchers ready meals to use up, but I will be sensible, and ensure everything else I eat that day is not processed and healthier.Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.0 -
Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
Although calories is part of it, I really don't think you have researched much on this. The quality of calories you are eating is much more important. How your body processes 100 calories of prepackaged sludge as compared to 100 calories of fruits or veggies is different. Organs actually know what to do with real food and put it to use in your body instead of storing the cr@p that gets ingested from highly processed foods.
Most prepackaged foods have added sodium or sugar for "taste". These are not things that your body require in high amounts.
Look at books by Tosca Reno on clean eating. The recipes are incredibly tasty, filling and very healthy. My 19 year old daughter rebels against our clean eating by eating chips, pop and white baked goods but when I make recipes from the Clean Eating cookbooks, she absolutely loves them.0 -
i STARTED MY DIET ON TUES. 06-12-12, AND HAVE LOST 11 IBS....I WAS 148 IBS....5'2" I AM EATING 1200 CALS OR LESS AND HAVE ONLY EXERCISED MAYBE 3X.....I THINK IF U STAY WITHIN THE CALS U ARE ALLOWED U SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM LOSING WEIGHT. i EXPECTED MINE TO COME OFF SLOWLY, BUT IT IS JUST ROLLING OFF.(BY THE WAY I DO EAT VERY HEALTH FOODS)
GOOD LUCK!0 -
Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
no idea what this means Dan so whatever joke that is supposed to be is lost on me...
LOL obviously.
I dont think Mcarter was attacking you so maybe you should avoid the forums.
That was just me predicting a ****storm.
=D
You need to remain objective in here and if you cant take the heat, www.hellokitty.com may have a better forum for you.
What Mcarter was saying is commonly seen in bodybuilding forums and its called "If it fits your macros".
Personally I dont really care what you eat as long as you see results.
Some folks can eat anything and lose weight and others precess food differently.
The reason why some folks who have a body building background can eat processed crap and still look great is because they have already been eating all the other good stuff for so long that they are able to better metabolize the crap when they eat it.
Instead of taking that objectively, you replied...so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
Subsequently forcing my laugh and thus having coffee shoot from my nose.
Relax!
If you have something objective to say then do it but try not to take things like that as a personal attack.
And...I just like my ****storm pic!
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Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
no idea what this means Dan so whatever joke that is supposed to be is lost on me...
LOL obviously.
I dont think Mcarter was attacking you so maybe you should avoid the forums.
That was just me predicting a ****storm.
=D
You need to remain objective in here and if you cant take the heat, www.hellokitty.com may have a better forum for you.
What Mcarter was saying is commonly seen in bodybuilding forums and its called "If it fits your macros".
Personally I dont really care what you eat as long as you see results.
Some folks can eat anything and lose weight and others precess food differently.
The reason why some folks who have a body building background can eat processed crap and still look great is because they have already been eating all the other good stuff for so long that they are able to better metabolize the crap when they eat it.
Instead of taking that objectively, you replied...so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
Subsequently forcing my laugh and thus having coffee shoot from my nose.
Relax!
If you have something objective to say then do it but try not to take things like that as a personal attack.
And...I just like my ****storm pic!
=D
actually I just think in general there is a lot of bad advice given in the forums and that's why I should stay out. I am already an HK Card Carrying member, though but thanks for thinking of me.
I'm pretty relaxed Dan, trust me. Personally I do what I need to do to be healthy and I hope to find others who are like-minded (and by the way, just looking into TDEE from your other thread, so thanks for that info!).
I just find it dumb for people to say it doesn't matter what kind of calories you eat because it really does. But what do I know? I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV.0 -
This information is really really helpful. I am also having a standstill issue, been on MFP for a little over a month and have lost 7 pounds. This is what I'm going to do now.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/10665-newbies-please-read-me-2nd-edition0 -
Make sure you weigh your food, this can help be more accurate
Make sure the calories you put in are as accurate as possible. A heaping teaspoon is not a teaspoon for example
Log everything including drinks oils and sauces
Get your thyroid checked if you eat little and gain
Figure out your bmr and tdee, you can get your rmr checked by your doctor
Make sure your exercise cals are accurate. Mfp is not accurate. Hrms are not accurate for strength training etc
I can eat lots of processed carbs and lose btw, not that I recommend it (health reasons). I know how it feels to not be able to get the food you want. really recommend you start reading about nutrition just to know about it. I usually rinse proccessed meats to get some of the salt off, there are things you can do. I am sure there are choices you can make.
Oh and do not listen to the person who thinks 2000 is eating to much. Most nutritional recommendations for a healthy female is based on a 2000 calorie diet. Higher if male. If I can eat 2000 and not be fat so can you.0 -
Weight loss is about calorie levels. You can go nuts listening to the food police here and their talk of veggies and sodium and carbs and processed foods but it doesn't matter to weight loss. Pick a calorie level that feels like a deficit-- You should be eating considerably less than you used to but not feel physically starved... and give it another month. If you're regularly breaking 2000+ calories I have a feeling it's too high.
so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
no idea what this means Dan so whatever joke that is supposed to be is lost on me...
LOL obviously.
I dont think Mcarter was attacking you so maybe you should avoid the forums.
That was just me predicting a ****storm.
=D
You need to remain objective in here and if you cant take the heat, www.hellokitty.com may have a better forum for you.
What Mcarter was saying is commonly seen in bodybuilding forums and its called "If it fits your macros".
Personally I dont really care what you eat as long as you see results.
Some folks can eat anything and lose weight and others precess food differently.
The reason why some folks who have a body building background can eat processed crap and still look great is because they have already been eating all the other good stuff for so long that they are able to better metabolize the crap when they eat it.
Instead of taking that objectively, you replied...so it's being the food police to suggest to someone to eat veggies, less processed foods and watch sodium?
replies like this is why i should stay out of the forums. do you want to lose weight now and then regain it? well then go ahead and don't give a single crap about WHERE your calories are actually coming from.
Subsequently forcing my laugh and thus having coffee shoot from my nose.
Relax!
If you have something objective to say then do it but try not to take things like that as a personal attack.
And...I just like my ****storm pic!
=D
actually I just think in general there is a lot of bad advice given in the forums and that's why I should stay out. I am already an HK Card Carrying member, though but thanks for thinking of me.
I'm pretty relaxed Dan, trust me. Personally I do what I need to do to be healthy and I hope to find others who are like-minded (and by the way, just looking into TDEE from your other thread, so thanks for that info!).
I just find it dumb for people to say it doesn't matter what kind of calories you eat because it really does. But what do I know? I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV.
Gotcha!
Very good then!
I was afraid i'd have to break out the popcorn and blow my carbs for the day!
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Record everything, measure or weigh your portions and get some sort of exercise in everyday. When I am frustrated I try to surround myself with a "things to do" list. I understand your frustration and hope these suggestions help.0
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It might help if you do so strength training to help build muscle. The more muscle you have the more calories you can burn - so if you can slightly reduce your calories but increase muscle - well it might help. You don't have to buy muscle building equipment. Empty liquid wash soap containers can be filled with water or sand (and they have good handles). Also push ups, sit ups and the like will build muscle.
Keep in mind that you do need protein to build muscle. I don't think you need a lot. I think 3 oz of animal protein a meal would do it. And keep in mind that you can also get protein from a combination of beans (like lentils), whole grain (like brown rice), with a few peas thrown in to help absorb the protein. If you learn to cook dry beans, it can save you a lot of money (see note at the bottom of this comment). Again you don't need to eat a lot to get the protein - 1 cup to 1 and 1/2 cup should fill you and give you protein. Otherwise, accompany this with low starch vegetables, and lower in sugar fruits. I find that the simple carbohydrates (sugars) in fruit and in processed grain foods - like bread and pasta make me ravenous. I could eat and eat and eat. So, I stay with unprocessed whole grains as much as possible and lower sugar/higher fiber fruits ie apples and pears.
A good place to find whole grains and dried beans is at discount stores. Brown rice can be expensive - but I found it at a national discount chain that sells unwanted stock from other stores for 80 cents a pound. Also, dime stores will often sell dry beans at a decent price. The real expense with food is with the fresh vegetables and animal proteins. I find the best time to shop is on the day before or the morning of the day my grocery store gets new stock. They mark a lot down to make room for the new food.
I know I've written quite a bit. But, I have to admit, it was as much for my benefit as yours.
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Keep at it, there is no other thing to do.
NOTE ON COOKING DRY BEANS.
Some dry beans, like lentils, will cook without pre-soaking. But most dry beans must be soaked for 24 hours with a heaping teaspoon of baking soda mixed in with the soaking water. I soak them until I can cut through the outer bean skin with my fingernail. Then I rinse them until I am sure all of the baking soda is removed. After that, they should cook in about 45 mins. Follow the cooking instructions on the back of the bag. Most have a nice recipe on the back of the package. As a general rule I add a couple of cups of celery, a sliced onion, a couple of cups of sliced carrots, a bay leaf, a large clove of garlic, and a healthy pinch of turmeric.0
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