Only 58% of protein can be converted to energy

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I would like to share a fact on protein for everyone's benefit and that is that you should include large amounts of protein in your diet. Why? well it is actually very simple first of all protein helps prevent muscle loss but secondly only 58% of protein can be used for energy when metabolized by the body. In other words if you hypothetically consumed 2500 calories of lean chicken breast you would actually only be consuming 1450 calories of usable energy. If you want to get thin eat lots of protein.
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  • LexyDB
    LexyDB Posts: 261
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    No idea where you got this from.

    Thermogenics of food conversion requires up to 30% for protein, 15% for carboydrates and only 2% for fat, which is why fat is stored so easily in the body when consumed to excess.

    Eating 100g of protein will at minimum utilse 70% of what you've just eaten not 42%.

    Protein alone will not prevent muscle loss, nitrogen and a few useful amino acids play the part as well as carbohydrates and glycogen.

    I see you are the person on the cereal diet, I don't think protein thermogenics should be a concern for you at the moment considering what you're eating, you are not getting the correct nutrients, unless your post about the cereal diet is inaccurate.
  • SweetxCatastrophe
    SweetxCatastrophe Posts: 593 Member
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:
  • Fausttt
    Fausttt Posts: 101
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    I would like to share a fact on protein for everyone's benefit and that is that you should include large amounts of protein in your diet. Why? well it is actually very simple first of all protein helps prevent muscle loss but secondly only 58% of protein can be used for energy when metabolized by the body. In other words if you hypothetically consumed 2500 calories of lean chicken breast you would actually only be consuming 1450 calories of usable energy. If you want to get thin eat lots of protein.


    Hmm. It was always my understanding that the rate of consumption of protein was dependent on the body's need to utilize the protein to rebuild tissue. IN the event there was a surplus, the body goes through gluconeogenesis and converts the excess protein into glucose, and subsequently, excess sugars are converted into fat. Where do you get the 58% number?
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    Please cite sources. I assume like the previous poster (lexyDB) that you're referring to protein TEF, and maybe somehow figuring in protein bioavailability, but that would depend on the protein source, and frankly is probably giving too much credit to this post.
  • someonefromny
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    No idea where you got this from.

    Thermogenics of food conversion requires up to 30% for protein, 15% for carboydrates and only 2% for fat, which is why fat is stored so easily in the body when consumed to excess.

    Eating 100g of protein will at minimum utilse 70% of what you've just eaten not 42%.

    Protein alone will not prevent muscle loss, nitrogen and a few useful amino acids play the part as well as carbohydrates and glycogen.

    I see you are the person on the cereal diet, I don't think protein thermogenics should be a concern for you at the moment considering what you're eating, you are not getting the correct nutrients, unless your post about the cereal diet is inaccurate.

    If you do not believe me look at anyone who has successfully completed the dukan diet. Regardless this was just information to assist people it does not relate to my plan in partucular
  • lee3978
    lee3978 Posts: 274
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    Man, I was soo hoping to get a full 3g a protein from a serving of cheerios!!! lol
  • someonefromny
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    No idea where you got this from.

    Thermogenics of food conversion requires up to 30% for protein, 15% for carboydrates and only 2% for fat, which is why fat is stored so easily in the body when consumed to excess.

    Eating 100g of protein will at minimum utilse 70% of what you've just eaten not 42%.

    Protein alone will not prevent muscle loss, nitrogen and a few useful amino acids play the part as well as carbohydrates and glycogen.

    I see you are the person on the cereal diet, I don't think protein thermogenics should be a concern for you at the moment considering what you're eating, you are not getting the correct nutrients, unless your post about the cereal diet is inaccurate.

    These are some sources:

    http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=390955

    http://www.carbsmart.com/howmuchprotein.html

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread10956.html

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100407003822AAZO2rx
  • SweetxCatastrophe
    SweetxCatastrophe Posts: 593 Member
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    Man, I was soo hoping to get a full 3g a protein from a serving of cheerios!!! lol

    Not it you're converting only 58% lol
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Where did you get this statistic from?
  • someonefromny
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    Man, I was soo hoping to get a full 3g a protein from a serving of cheerios!!! lol

    I was simply sharing some information to help other people with their goals and sharing a fact regarding basic biochemistry. Unlike you I am trying to help people by sharing information not criticize them.
  • Maurice1966
    Maurice1966 Posts: 438 Member
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    I wonder if it works with fruit loops too
  • someonefromny
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    I wonder if it works with fruit loops too

    Try it and see.
  • SweetxCatastrophe
    SweetxCatastrophe Posts: 593 Member
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    I wonder if it works with fruit loops too

    No..fruit loops might have some real fruit in there somewhere and that would just ruin the whole plan
  • douglasmobbs
    douglasmobbs Posts: 563 Member
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    What happens to the rest of the calories? Should I be selling my excrement as a high energy bar?
  • LexyDB
    LexyDB Posts: 261
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    Or if you want to get thin, eat lots of cheerios like you said in your other thread :indifferent:

    Man, I was soo hoping to get a full 3g a protein from a serving of cheerios!!! lol

    I was simply sharing some information to help other people with their goals and sharing a fact regarding basic biochemistry. Unlike you I am trying to help people by sharing information not criticize them.

    Which is wrong, I've supplied the correct percentages.
  • jac264
    jac264 Posts: 86 Member
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    What happens to the rest of the calories? Should I be selling my excrement as a high energy bar?

    LOL and also gross!
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
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    No idea where you got this from.

    Thermogenics of food conversion requires up to 30% for protein, 15% for carboydrates and only 2% for fat, which is why fat is stored so easily in the body when consumed to excess.

    Eating 100g of protein will at minimum utilse 70% of what you've just eaten not 42%.

    Protein alone will not prevent muscle loss, nitrogen and a few useful amino acids play the part as well as carbohydrates and glycogen.

    I see you are the person on the cereal diet, I don't think protein thermogenics should be a concern for you at the moment considering what you're eating, you are not getting the correct nutrients, unless your post about the cereal diet is inaccurate.

    These are some sources:

    http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=390955

    http://www.carbsmart.com/howmuchprotein.html

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread10956.html

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100407003822AAZO2rx

    I think you're seriously misinterpreting this information, which appears to be the result of a google search of 58% and protein, and other forums are not "sources". It is talking about protein conversion to glucose, which is only relevant under the very specific conditions of extreme low carb/low fat and/or starvation.
  • someonefromny
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    Here are even more sources:

    http://fitnesstrainingcentre.com/ketogenic-diet/summary-brains-glucose-requirements-drop/

    http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/diet-bodybuilding/protein-glucose-176728.html

    Nutrition and Diet Therapy: Self-Instructional Approaches
    By Peggy Stanfield, Y. H. Hu
  • someonefromny
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    No idea where you got this from.

    Thermogenics of food conversion requires up to 30% for protein, 15% for carboydrates and only 2% for fat, which is why fat is stored so easily in the body when consumed to excess.

    Eating 100g of protein will at minimum utilse 70% of what you've just eaten not 42%.

    Protein alone will not prevent muscle loss, nitrogen and a few useful amino acids play the part as well as carbohydrates and glycogen.

    I see you are the person on the cereal diet, I don't think protein thermogenics should be a concern for you at the moment considering what you're eating, you are not getting the correct nutrients, unless your post about the cereal diet is inaccurate.

    These are some sources:

    http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=390955

    http://www.carbsmart.com/howmuchprotein.html

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread10956.html

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100407003822AAZO2rx

    I think you're seriously misinterpreting this information, which appears to be the result of a google search of 58% and protein, and other forums are not "sources". It is talking about protein conversion to glucose, which only happens under the very specific conditions of extreme low carb/low fat and/or starvation.


    I just found a book

    Nutrition and Diet Therapy: Self-Instructional Approaches
    By Peggy Stanfield, Y. H. Hu

    This is the entire principle of the Dukan diet.
  • gogojodee
    gogojodee Posts: 1,261 Member
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    What happens to the rest of the calories? Should I be selling my excrement as a high energy bar?

    Low cost Fiber One bar. haha