Mandatory Flu vaccine?

mommared53

:mad: :explode: That's all! Just :mad: :explode:

czewwhat

I am older than a lot of you are and don't remember the fear of germs like I see on Television now. Bleach wipes for the kitchen counters! Bleach is poisinous, why put it on the counter? We are killing our own immune systems ability to recognize viruses by all the super sanitary kill the germs mentality. That being said H1N1 has been compared to the Spanish influenza of 1918. It is nearly identical according to what I have read. We need to be very cautious, wash hands and stop assuming we can take small children everywhere. Shopping carts are virul cess pools. The very young and the elderly are the weakest against this virus. Be responsible. I researched my family tree a few years back and during the Spanish influenza outbreak my g-g-grandmother lost 4 children and a brother and a sister. She was a stay at home wife and mother on a remote farm in Oklahoma, surrounded by massive fields. Most likely they got infected at Church. They grew their own food and only went to town for staples about once a month. This is an airborne virus, interacting with patients is not the only way you might get exposed. Altho the forced nature of it might be objectionable, your employer is trying to protect you and everyone else in his/her practice, count it as a blessing your boss cares.

Phoenix_Rising

Personally, I think you are letting your pride get in the way of doing what is most likely the right thing to do, especially with the concern of H1N1. Really, it's only a shot and it is rare for you to contract the flu from the flu shot, the probability of you going through that again is little to none, and besides, you said you only had it for 2 days when normally contracted you would have been out for an average of 10 days.

(I didn't see her pride as being an issue, and I don't see where there is a "right thing to do" in this scenario.)

It's not "just a shot". It's a company mandating she inject a dead virus into her body, one which may make her ill with the virus.

My MIL had the flu shot in the spring. She had an allergic reaction to it and then caught the flu (from my daughter) last month. The shot is not without risks.

Phoenix_Rising

I am older than a lot of you are and don't remember the fear of germs like I see on Television now. Bleach wipes for the kitchen counters! Bleach is poisinous, why put it on the counter? We are killing our own immune systems ability to recognize viruses by all the super sanitary kill the germs mentality. That being said H1N1 has been compared to the Spanish influenza of 1918. It is nearly identical according to what I have read. We need to be very cautious, wash hands and stop assuming we can take small children everywhere. Shopping carts are virul cess pools. The very young and the elderly are the weakest against this virus. Be responsible. I researched my family tree a few years back and during the Spanish influenza outbreak my g-g-grandmother lost 4 children and a brother and a sister. She was a stay at home wife and mother on a remote farm in Oklahoma, surrounded by massive fields. Most likely they got infected at Church. They grew their own food and only went to town for staples about once a month. This is an airborne virus, interacting with patients is not the only way you might get exposed. Altho the forced nature of it might be objectionable, your employer is trying to protect you and everyone else in his/her practice, count it as a blessing your boss cares.

My great grandmother died in the 1919 Spanish influezna outbreak too, after the birth of my grandmother. Most likely a complication / weaked immune system from childbirth. My grandmother survived, as did her 8 older siblings and father.

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mommared53

Yeah, I think everyone should be forced to get the flu vacine for our own and everyone else's good. :explode: (I'm being very sarcastic here!)

Phoenix_Rising

Yeah, I think everyone should be forced to get the flu vacine for our own and everyone else's good. :explode: (I'm being very sarcastic here!)

I wish there was a mandatory 'stupidity' vaccine. I know some people in my life who could use it!! :laugh: I'd probably take a dose myself, in case stupidity is contaigious!!!

czewwhat

Yeah, I think everyone should be forced to get the flu vacine for our own and everyone else's good. :explode: (I'm being very sarcastic here!)

I wish there was a mandatory 'stupidity' vaccine. I know some people in my life who could use it!! :laugh: I'd probably take a dose myself, in case stupidity is contaigious!!!

I sincerely hope that this one is just a mild one and all are healthy. Golden rule again, he who has the gold makes the rules. I dont like having to pay car insurance, but I do even though I am a safe driver! My medical insurance is way to high, but I pay it! My electricity bill is unfair billing in ever higher tiers the more I use! I conserve a bunch but I still have to pay! On the current base line I can run my refrigerator and a alarm clock, nothing else! Having to put up with my neighbors cat crapping in my flower beds sucks, but they don't clean it up. Life is full of injustice. If you are that opposed to it, get another job!

GraceKelly

I just found out today that my employer is mandating the flu vaccine for ALL employees, unless they have a medical reason to not get it. I personally do not get the vaccine, as I never get the flu. We risk losing our jobs if we don't get it. I'm pretty upset. They don't give an option of wearing masks, except to the ones who have a medical condition. I HAVE gotten it in the past, but personally don't like to get it. I guess I'm curious how many people out there think this is totally illegal and communistic....besides me.

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You need to do what YOU feel right with. :flowerforyou:

Poison5119

Yeah, I think everyone should be forced to get the flu vacine for our own and everyone else's good. :explode: (I'm being very sarcastic here!)

I wish there was a mandatory 'stupidity' vaccine. I know some people in my life who could use it!! :laugh: I'd probably take a dose myself, in case stupidity is contaigious!!!

I sincerely hope that this one is just a mild one and all are healthy. Golden rule again, he who has the gold makes the rules. I dont like having to pay car insurance, but I do even though I am a safe driver! My medical insurance is way to high, but I pay it! My electricity bill is unfair billing in ever higher tiers the more I use! I conserve a bunch but I still have to pay! On the current base line I can run my refrigerator and a alarm clock, nothing else! Having to put up with my neighbors cat crapping in my flower beds sucks, but they don't clean it up. Life is full of injustice. If you are that opposed to it, get another job!

I feel your pain about the utilities being outrageous. I had a $9 natural gas bill last month but the dang delivery charge was $17!!!!!! :explode: How does that work??

I also had a vaccine 5 years ago and promptly came down with the flu. Science suggests that is because the virus was already incubating in me prior to the shot, and that has not happened since. I'm getting the vaccine this year like I did last year. If it's FREE (mine are), I'll take 3, thank you.

czewwhat

I personally have never had one, but I am a daycare provider and I know my parents who think a Walmart shopping cart is the cleanest place for their child won't pay me if I get sick. So I will get one this year, so when their child gets sick, they will not be able to blame me! You know those nasty daycare homes, kids never get sick from all the places you drag them, just daycare!:laugh: :laugh:

genma1987

Lots of things to think about....it's a supercharged topic, that's for sure. I'm not too proud to get the vaccine. I just choose not to get it, as is my right being an American citizen. Being injected with a foreign substance is not the same thing as being required to wear a uniform. I guess once all companies and the government mandate it, it'll be a dead issue...and they can move on to the next right to take away from us. I have a clear understanding of how germs are spread and what they can do, I also believe our bodies need to build up a natural resistance. As for being a carrier and possibly giving the virus to someone with a weakened immune system...well THOSE are the people who the vaccine was intended for in the first place, so that shouldn't be an issue...why waste a vaccine on me, when there are people out there who REALLY need it? I guess it's not worth losing my job over, but I wonder what recourse I'll have against my employer should I have any adverse reactions to it...NONE.