Woah....read this.

riccoismydog
riccoismydog Posts: 319 Member
edited December 24 in Health and Weight Loss
Pretty freakin depressing. I read all the links. I hope to hell this isn't true.

http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat-officially-incurable-according-to-science/
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  • _AllieCat_
    _AllieCat_ Posts: 515 Member
    That's terribly depressing. However, you can't believe everything you read. Especially on the internet.
  • Lauren8239
    Lauren8239 Posts: 1,039 Member
    I agree with it if you are going for a quick fix, and no lifestyle change, and expect to sit there eating bon bons and watch the weight fall off. Most people in the article did not make a permanent lifestyle change. They don't work at keeping themselves as tip top as they can. That's what's great about MFP.....it's a lifelong lifestyle change. Slow and steady wins the race. :smile:
  • paulsmisses
    paulsmisses Posts: 178
    you can and will stay slim if you believe in making a lifestyle change instead of dieting! i am changing permanently not just til weight is off so i will keep the fat away!
  • RealWomenLovePitbulls
    RealWomenLovePitbulls Posts: 729 Member
    that is a horrible story, people can lose weight and keep it off, i think that the people who gain the weight back are the ones that quit exercising and go back to their old eating habits (you can't just lose the weight and go back to what u were doing before and expect it to stay off) or some people do have medical issues that keep them from being able to lose weight, a lot of which can be helped with the right treatment. nobody should let this story discourage them. I do think that each person had a physical "make-up" that sets what their ideal weight should be. There are lots of different body types and bone structures and a small framed person might look okay at 115 pounds, where a medium or large framed person might look sick... but i don't think that anyones bone structure is meant to support 300+pounds, if people were meant to be and stay that size, then it wouldnt cause all the complications that it does. Forget about that article and keep up your hard work, because exercise and eating right is what is healthy for you, no matter what size you are.
  • cutmd
    cutmd Posts: 1,168 Member
    It's depressing but true that the body has a fat set point and, at least for the first while after weight loss, keeps trying to send signals to put that weight back on. It does take a crazy amount of discipline to resist, which is why someone who lost a lot of weight needs to stay on mfp for a good year. its helpful for people to know what we're up against. I'm happy that the 15lbs or so is easier to do though!
  • xxzimmer
    xxzimmer Posts: 37
    Just like they've said...you have to make a life style change. Anyone on those programs are not making significant changes...just temporary ones.
  • _SpeshK_
    _SpeshK_ Posts: 496 Member
    Whatever. The majority of people I know who have lost 80+ lbs have kept it off for years.
  • FuneralDiner
    FuneralDiner Posts: 438 Member
    We really do not need to see that here. I can imagine this completely demotivating some people. I, on the other hand, give it the middle finger and call BS.
  • I call BS. The study was conducted using Weight Watchers participants? That is inherently a flaw...
  • cunfewzed1
    cunfewzed1 Posts: 80
    Pretty freakin depressing. I read all the links. I hope to hell this isn't true.

    Woah.....why post this on a weight-loss forum? Smooth...
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    The people who lose weight and then regain it over and over again are those who chase after every fad diet or diet pill that comes along. They have a little success and stop the diet without making and life changes and voila, back to being fat. Or it's people who believe that "maintanence" is eating the same crap they did before they went on the diet.

    The fact is, you MUST change old habits and food choices or you WILL get fat again. A great, healthy body doesn't happen by accident, you have to keep it up.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    Hmmm, that link is blocked at work because it is classified as tasteless. From the comments here, that sounds about right!
  • rprussell2004
    rprussell2004 Posts: 870 Member
    It's cracked.com.

    They're satire.
  • lizzybethclaire
    lizzybethclaire Posts: 849 Member
    I call BS as well. How is it in anyway scientific if they pulled all of the participants from one specific weight loss program?
  • bm99
    bm99 Posts: 597 Member
    Pretty freakin depressing. I read all the links. I hope to hell this isn't true.

    Woah.....why post this on a weight-loss forum? Smooth...

    Why not? It's hard to lose weight and it's all for nothing if we don't learn how to maintain a healthy weight. It's actually healthier to stay fat than to yo yo up and down.

    A lot of people think that maintenance will be the easy part.
  • loneworg
    loneworg Posts: 342 Member
    Its cracked. Com so yeah lol
  • brk_1982
    brk_1982 Posts: 125 Member
    Hmmm, that link is blocked at work because it is classified as tasteless. From the comments here, that sounds about right!

    Was just about to post the exact same thing. :laugh:
  • theartichoke
    theartichoke Posts: 816 Member
    Short-sighted horse *kitten*.

    I don't think the problem with keeping weight off (which is far more difficult than losing it) is due to the fact that formerly fat people are starving. Like they have food rabies that causes them to walk around, foaming at the mouth, aggressively waiting to maul unsuspecting food. The only thing saving that sandwich, and the hand holding it, is the deep, weeping desire to stay thin.

    Eff that.

    Eat too little, lose weight fast.
    Eat like a normal person again, gain weight.
    See! I can't stay thin...it's my genetics!
    Give up and pig out.

    What would happen to these statistics if we all knew about BMR and TDEE? What would happen if the starve and cardio yourself into oblivion mantra was perceived to be as helpful for health as leeches are for curing diseases?
  • rmkramer003
    rmkramer003 Posts: 115 Member
    Since this article was on "Cracked.com" you really need to look at it as an attempt at humor, and not science.
  • d0gma
    d0gma Posts: 3,966 Member
    bump, in case this isn't on Cracked's front page today.
  • 2012asv
    2012asv Posts: 702 Member
    Lots of garbage on the internet.... I just hope the majority of people know better.
  • AlsDonkBoxSquat
    AlsDonkBoxSquat Posts: 6,128 Member
    1 - I like to get my information (and sometimes even my misinformaiton) from actual real life reputible sources. posting something from cracked.com is like posting something from the dailymail, only less reputible.

    2 - This may be true for a quick fix diet plan, but for a life long decision to change your food and exercise habits perminantly using a feasible lifestyle change this is not true at all. The trick is to find a lifestyle, not a quick fix.

    3 - Yeah, Jared gained it all back . . . I would too if I were using subway subs as a main source of food, I like variety and this sandwich vs that sandwich is not variety . . . I can not live off of sandwiches and iceburg lettuce based salads.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    I love how the author of that article kept going "STATS! STATS! STATS!" Anyone with half a brain knows that stats are naturally flawed. You can't trust them as much as most people like to do.

    Keep in mind: the people we was talking about are people who dropped 200 or some-odd pounds in one go. Not people who burn off 15-50 lbs at a time, or total. If you take off some, then maintain that weight for a while before taking off some more, you're more likely to see permanent results.

    However, the logic behind his argument makes sense. The only way to get thin and to stay thin is to change your lifestyle - all of it. Most people slack off once they hit their goal weight, and end up putting weight back on. The ones who keep it off are the ones who maintain a healthy lifestyle.
  • Becoming_A_Butterfly
    Becoming_A_Butterfly Posts: 2,534 Member
    As soon as I saw the "You might be a zombie!" link at the top of the page, I immediately discounted anything that followed as even remotely credible.
  • jkestens63
    jkestens63 Posts: 1,164 Member
    Ridiculous. I know many people who have lost varied amounts of weight and kept it off. This kind of bs pulls little tidbits out of a variety of articles and then creates something meant to inflame the reader. Only in this case with people struggling with weight loss, its just one more nail in the f**k it, can never do this coffin.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Um, am I the only one that knows it's a Cracked.com article, as in, it isn't real? Cracked.com is a satirical/parody site.
  • myfitnessnmhoy
    myfitnessnmhoy Posts: 2,105 Member
    As soon as I saw the "You might be a zombie!" link at the top of the page, I immediately discounted anything that followed as even remotely credible.

    It is scary when people re-post things from Cracked and The Onion (both humorous satire sites!) as real.

    Sadly, reality and humorous satire resemble each other all too often.
  • jadedzen
    jadedzen Posts: 221 Member
    It's cracked.com.

    They're satire.

    ^^THIS. IF you're really concerned about it talk to a doctor or dietitian but on the internet you really have to pay attention to where you're getting your information. Also, this is not the place for demoralizing satire. thx.
  • riccoismydog
    riccoismydog Posts: 319 Member
    After reading all these posts, one thing has become apparent. Exercise and eating right as a lifestyle wins. Gimmicks like eating subway every day does not and will not ever work. Something to think about before doing atkins or weightwatchers or herbal life. Just exercise, eat right, consume the calories you need and be healthy. I find it funny that there was no statistics on people who just decided to live healthy. Gimmicks gotta go. Healthy is the new skinny.
  • riccoismydog
    riccoismydog Posts: 319 Member
    As soon as I saw the "You might be a zombie!" link at the top of the page, I immediately discounted anything that followed as even remotely credible.

    It is scary when people re-post things from Cracked and The Onion (both humorous satire sites!) as real.

    Sadly, reality and humorous satire resemble each other all too often.

    Actually they have some pretty good information a lot of the times under the guise of satire. The writer did back up his ideas pretty properly. I don't think he just made up some studies, published websites about them and linked them. Sorry if this offended some folks. Sometimes information that isn't upbeat or along the hey, weight loss is easy route can be depressing. I know I can get up to my highest weight much faster than someone who has been skinny forever. The author did not do any references to what being healthy (exercising and eating real food) could do for a person. Those kind of changes (hopefully the changes everyone here is making) tend to become a lifestyle. That's not a diet. It's a lifestyle. Quit the lifestyle, and you're gonna put on weight.
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