health care issues

SHBoss1673

I don't blame you for the post, and I don't think it started out that way. But non-the-less, things have been said to bring this into a political hot button topic, and while these topics have their place on the internet, that place isn't MFP. Trust me, I am very well read on the political pulse of the nation, and wanted nothing better than to post my view on here, but this isn't the place.

leavinglasvegas

I'm so sorry for what you are going thru. I just got on Medicaid this summer. I would recommend applying for it! I don't have any medical problems thankfully, but I know when my daughter needed glasses in preschool, I HATED Medicaid. They would not pay for a pediatric specialist and the regular specialists would not treat her because of her age. By the time she got her glasses (more than 1 year later) she was almost legally blind in one eye. Then when she was getting better and her perscription changed they would not pay because it had not been a year yet and her eye started to revert. Finally I got her on MiChild and she has gotten so much better! I lost my job earlier this year and guess what! They put her back on Medicaid! She goes back to the eyedoctor next month, I hope there are no problems because she is seeing perfectly now!
I know from working in dental offices with billing and from friends who are in the medical field that Medicaid pays the absolute minimum to the provider, that is why the wait times are so long. They have to try to see as many patients as they can in the hour just to break even.

Example:
A dental cleaning without x-rays costs about $100 Medicaid pays about $22.
The Hygienist makes around$30 per hour and you also have to add in the costs of equiptment, samples given, energy costs, malpractice insurance, the receptionist who made the appointment, the biller who bills medicaid, the tech who steralizes the tools and equiptment, not to mention the doctor and so on...

The dentist has to cut costs and does it by cramming in as many patients as he can for the day, which often results in affecting your quality of care. They cut the people who work there, so maybe the receptionist is also billing the insurance, and MOST unfortunately they cut corners with sanitation and sterilization. Disgusting I know, but I have seen it in more than one office. They end up hiring uneducated people who will work for less and the cycle continues from there.

I think the premis of universal healthcare is good, but they can't do it by not paying the providers. That makes it worse for us.

Nothing political here.

Jovialation

I don't blame you for the post, and I don't think it started out that way. But non-the-less, things have been said to bring this into a political hot button topic, and while these topics have their place on the internet, that place isn't MFP. Trust me, I am very well read on the political pulse of the nation, and wanted nothing better than to post my view on here, but this isn't the place.

Id love to hear more opinions!
PM me yours?

Jovialation

I'm so sorry for what you are going thru. I just got on Medicaid this summer. I would recommend applying for it! I don't have any medical problems thankfully, but I know when my daughter needed glasses in preschool, I HATED Medicaid. They would not pay for a pediatric specialist and the regular specialists would not treat her because of her age. By the time she got her glasses (more than 1 year later) she was almost legally blind in one eye. Then when she was getting better and her perscription changed they would not pay because it had not been a year yet and her eye started to revert. Finally I got her on MiChild and she has gotten so much better! I lost my job earlier this year and guess what! They put her back on Medicaid! She goes back to the eyedoctor next month, I hope there are no problems because she is seeing perfectly now!
I know from working in dental offices with billing and from friends who are in the medical field that Medicaid pays the absolute minimum to the provider, that is why the wait times are so long. They have to try to see as many patients as they can in the hour just to break even.

Example:
A dental cleaning without x-rays costs about $100 Medicaid pays about $22.
The Hygienist makes around$30 per hour and you also have to add in the costs of equiptment, samples given, energy costs, malpractice insurance, the receptionist who made the appointment, the biller who bills medicaid, the tech who steralizes the tools and equiptment, not to mention the doctor and so on...

The dentist has to cut costs and does it by cramming in as many patients as he can for the day, which often results in affecting your quality of care. They cut the people who work there, so maybe the receptionist is also billing the insurance, and MOST unfortunately they cut corners with sanitation and sterilization. Disgusting I know, but I have seen it in more than one office. They end up hiring uneducated people who will work for less and the cycle continues from there.

I think the premis of universal healthcare is good, but they can't do it by not paying the providers. That makes it worse for us.

Nothing political here.

this all sounds about right. Ill have to look into Medicaid.

Really, I just wish doctors and dentist and other medical professionals demanded less money. I dont understand why so many professions that you dont need daily make so much more than the poor people that keep this country running. I dont know if thats political, its just something Ive wondered since I was a child really.
Our president makes less than people who sit around telling people what to do in computer, retail, fashion, etc...and those people are loaded and do NOTHING.
Everything is pretty much really weird to me lol

*EDIT*
Medicaid programs are officially administered through the Illinois Department of Healthcare and Family Services, the public may apply for medical assistance at their Illinois Department of Human Services Family Community Resource Center.
General Qualifications
In general for medical assistance a person has to be either:
Blind, Disabled or Aged (65 or older), or
have children under the age of 19, or
be pregnant.
They must also meet financial eligibility criteria and in most cases must be citizens (except for children).

guess I get no medicaid

leavinglasvegas

this all sounds about right. Ill have to look into Medicaid.

Really, I just wish doctors and dentist and other medical professionals demanded less money. I dont understand why so many professions that you dont need daily make so much more than the poor people that keep this country running. I dont know if thats political, its just something Ive wondered since I was a child really.
Our president makes less than people who sit around telling people what to do in computer, retail, fashion, etc...and those people are loaded and do NOTHING.
Everything is pretty much really weird to me lol

*EDIT*
Medicaid programs are officially administered through the Illinois Department of Healthcare and Family Services, the public may apply for medical assistance at their Illinois Department of Human Services Family Community Resource Center.
General Qualifications
In general for medical assistance a person has to be either:
Blind, Disabled or Aged (65 or older), or
have children under the age of 19, or
be pregnant.
They must also meet financial eligibility criteria and in most cases must be citizens (except for children).

guess I get no medicaid

O wow! That sucks. I'm a single-mom and I have become queen of resources around here, so I'll do some research for you and see what I can come up with. I know Michigan like the back of my hand, lol I realized that is almost litteral as I tyoed it:laugh: I mean I know its resources. I'll see what I can find in the morning and I'll prolly PM it to you.

Have you seen the documentary Sicko? I know Michael Moore is contraversial, but the movie shows healthcare systems in europe and I thought it was very fascinating! In France you get a private nurse that comes to your house to help you while you are on maternity leave and you are paid for it! I can't remember which country, I think Switzerland, they have madatory 4 week paid vacations for ALL workers and they evern pay for a vacation in the winter to a warmer climate to combat the winter blues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

leavinglasvegas

OK, so I think this is really cute and funny. Hope its not too political to anyone.:ohwell: No intention of offending or starting an arguement but my friend who is a politician posted this on facebook and the tune is catchy and entertaining.:laugh: And I thought of this post when I saw it!

We're number 37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4

Enjoy

jojo52610

All I can say is that if you really believe this, take the time to let you elected officials know how you feel.

The health insurance companies are spending almost a million dollars a day in advertising, lobbyists, and campaign contributions to republicans and democrats alike to kill the efforts to reform health care or to pass a bill that gives them millions of new customers while effectively gutting real reform.

They are the ones paying off FOX news, beck, limbaugh and many of the "teabagger" groups to carry out an all-out assault against every day citizens.

It's a tough battle and right now I don't know that it's going that well--once again, your calls can make a difference.

I thought there was no a Politics policy on this board............ American citizens expressing their opionions are now considered bullies and teabaggers (and by the way google tea bag how crude) why .....because we don't agree with the current governments policies and beliefs...............I am an every day citizen..............sheesh..amazing

jojo52610

this all sounds about right. Ill have to look into Medicaid.

Really, I just wish doctors and dentist and other medical professionals demanded less money. I dont understand why so many professions that you dont need daily make so much more than the poor people that keep this country running. I dont know if thats political, its just something Ive wondered since I was a child really.
Our president makes less than people who sit around telling people what to do in computer, retail, fashion, etc...and those people are loaded and do NOTHING.
Everything is pretty much really weird to me lol

*EDIT*
Medicaid programs are officially administered through the Illinois Department of Healthcare and Family Services, the public may apply for medical assistance at their Illinois Department of Human Services Family Community Resource Center.
General Qualifications
In general for medical assistance a person has to be either:
Blind, Disabled or Aged (65 or older), or
have children under the age of 19, or
be pregnant.
They must also meet financial eligibility criteria and in most cases must be citizens (except for children).

guess I get no medicaid

O wow! That sucks. I'm a single-mom and I have become queen of resources around here, so I'll do some research for you and see what I can come up with. I know Michigan like the back of my hand, lol I realized that is almost litteral as I tyoed it:laugh: I mean I know its resources. I'll see what I can find in the morning and I'll prolly PM it to you.

Have you seen the documentary Sicko? I know Michael Moore is contraversial, but the movie shows healthcare systems in europe and I thought it was very fascinating! In France you get a private nurse that comes to your house to help you while you are on maternity leave and you are paid for it! I can't remember which country, I think Switzerland, they have madatory 4 week paid vacations for ALL workers and they evern pay for a vacation in the winter to a warmer climate to combat the winter blues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And in England where I'm orginally from you get a Pap Smear once every 2 years - and you have to go before a committee to get surgery approved. My friend who is 2 years older than me is crippled for life and has to walk with crutches because she had to wait for surgery. So be careful what you wish for....

CasperO

I don't blame you for the post, and I don't think it started out that way. But non-the-less, things have been said to bring this into a political hot button topic, and while these topics have their place on the internet, that place isn't MFP. Trust me, I am very well read on the political pulse of the nation, and wanted nothing better than to post my view on here, but this isn't the place.

Yeah - the "Name 5 people you'd like to have dinner with" thread is the place for that. :yawn:

SHBoss1673

I don't blame you for the post, and I don't think it started out that way. But non-the-less, things have been said to bring this into a political hot button topic, and while these topics have their place on the internet, that place isn't MFP. Trust me, I am very well read on the political pulse of the nation, and wanted nothing better than to post my view on here, but this isn't the place.

Yeah - the "Name 5 people you'd like to have dinner with" thread is the place for that. :yawn:

Oh ho...

Thinly veiled inuendo <> Political debate. :ohwell:

CasperO

Of course. Tricking the president of the United States into drinking urine is completely non-political. How silly of me.

CasperO

All I can say is that if you really believe this, take the time to let you elected officials know how you feel.

The health insurance companies are spending almost a million dollars a day in advertising, lobbyists, and campaign contributions to republicans and democrats alike to kill the efforts to reform health care or to pass a bill that gives them millions of new customers while effectively gutting real reform.

They are the ones paying off FOX news, beck, limbaugh and many of the "teabagger" groups to carry out an all-out assault against every day citizens.

It's a tough battle and right now I don't know that it's going that well--once again, your calls can make a difference.

I thought there was no a Politics policy on this board............ American citizens expressing their opionions are now considered bullies and teabaggers (and by the way google tea bag how crude) why .....because we don't agree with the current governments policies and beliefs...............I am an every day citizen..............sheesh..amazing

FYI - the crude (and it really is quite crude) slang meaning of "Teabagging" is very old. It wasn't invented recently to disparage anyone.

And the Teabaggers chose that name themselves,,,

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SHBoss1673

Of course. Tricking the president of the United States into drinking urine is completely non-political. How silly of me.

It might be, then again, it might just be cuz Max likes peeing in people's food (if you know Max, this is a possibility), non-the-less, there was no debate about it, just a fantasy. Nobody said you can't have political views, just that they aren't to be debated on here.

CasperO

<<nope, edit, never mind.>>

Elected not to go to college? Ya',,, that's what I did. I left home when I was 17 and turned 18 in boot camp because my parents literally couldn't afford to feed me anymore. I was in Ronnie Raygun's 600 ship navy and the "GI Bill :laugh: :noway: :sad: " of the time.

There was tons'a tuition just lying around, lots'a B-C students go to college completely without family help. I "chose" not to go.

I wound up doing 3 years of night school and getting a 2 year degree in Engineering and I do Ok. But the idea that the doors are wide open to anybody who "chooses" to go is laughable. Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is admirable, but you gotta have boots to do it.

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SHBoss1673

LOL!:laugh:

Thank you Most Interesting Man in the World!

"I don't always take a leek in everyone's food, but when I do, it smells like Dos Equis"

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CasperO

Yeah, you're right. Everything's just $&^%in' peachy.