Atkins Budget crisis!!

kayemme

meat is very expensive. move toward a seasonal plant-based diet.

Not entirely true either

i just made an edit explaining myself better. you're right that it's not entirely true, but it's mostly true.

kayemme

meat is very expensive. move toward a seasonal plant-based diet.

Not entirely true either

i just made an edit explaining myself better. you're right that it's not entirely true, but it's mostly true.

and to be fair, i mean quality meats... quality meat (if i were to eat meat, this is what i would want to put in my body) are very expensive. yeah, you can get cheap meat, but, i mean, do you really want to eat cheap meat?

you may be able to find discounts on nearly-expired meats, so if you're able to do that, it's not a bad way to go. my brother does this. he even does it with cheap meats close to expiring. i find it gross, but he's into it, so hey. he's not into my green smoothies, either. so it's all good.

anyway, i'm not looking to "convert" anybody to a plant-based lifestyle... the less of them you guys eat, the more for me! :0

caraiselite

Don't go low carb. It's bull****.

"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's body-mass index calculator, at 258 pounds, the 6-foot-tall Atkins would have qualified as obese [when he died]." -- Snopes.

once again, don't listen to people like this that know nothing.


low carb > anythign else when trying to lose weight

he died because he fell on ice. wasn't it like a stroke?
he didnt die cuz he was fat.

cramernh

meat is very expensive. move toward a seasonal plant-based diet.

Not entirely true either

i just made an edit explaining myself better. you're right that it's not entirely true, but it's mostly true.

and to be fair, i mean quality meats... quality meat (if i were to eat meat, this is what i would want to put in my body) are very expensive. yeah, you can get cheap meat, but, i mean, do you really want to eat cheap meat?

you may be able to find discounts on nearly-expired meats, so if you're able to do that, it's not a bad way to go. my brother does this. he even does it with cheap meats close to expiring. i find it gross, but he's into it, so hey. he's not into my green smoothies, either. so it's all good.

anyway, i'm not looking to "convert" anybody to a plant-based lifestyle... the less of them you guys eat, the more for me! :0

You pose a significant misconception: quality meats is not always expensive. Going to a local farm and purchasing direct is very cost-effective and it keeps our local farmers in business. Local produce farms are another great way to pick your own produce or purchase from their stands - again, keeps the local farmers in business.

People need to put forth some effort into finding alternate businesses that dont involve the big-name business chains. They are out there.

I recently purchased 50#'s of chicken breasts, cleaned and ready to eat for only $1.58/lb. So for $79.00, I have enough chicken for three months (including when I do large BBQ's). Eye-round beef, cryovac whole packages go for $2.79/lb, an average of 7-8lbs per cryo, roughly $20.00. Pork Loin, cryovac average is 15-18lbs, 2.09/lb for just over $36.00 - I clean it up for tips, chops and two roasts... Ground beef - 80/20, minimum 15#, at 2.79/lb for only $41.85

Those are CHEAP prices for quality meats. Whole roaster chickens - a 2pk for .78 cents per pound, roughly $8.00 for both. Whole turkey, 25lb'ers for .49/lb. Whole Salmon - bring it home, clean it yourself, prep it for future meals, I pay $3.79/lb. Others who get the filets (in otherwords, they did the work), you guys are paying a minimum $7.99/lb, maybe $6.99/lb on sale.

You just have to be good at knowing where the sales are, where the better prices are and be knowledged on pricing, prepping and serving.

By the way, the more 'marbling' of the beef for steaks, the better. It cooks better, most of the fat has cooked off because it has self-marinated the steaks.

Matter of fact, I just got home right now from grocery shopping, just purchased a 25# pork butt for $1.89/lb. That will make great pulled pork, smoked pork, homemade sausages for many, many meals....

cramernh

To the OP and Caraiselite:
I work with 300+ physicians in my line of work, ranging in a multitude of medical capacities... low carb intakes are ALWAYS recommended to their patients... and our team of Registered Dieticians all work with the same patients who are under that advisement. CLEARLY its an accepted practice of medicine....

Side note: MFP recognizes low-carb intakes as well.. if it were so damn bad, MFP would not allow it...

Case in point.

kayemme

meat is very expensive. move toward a seasonal plant-based diet.

Not entirely true either

i just made an edit explaining myself better. you're right that it's not entirely true, but it's mostly true.

and to be fair, i mean quality meats... quality meat (if i were to eat meat, this is what i would want to put in my body) are very expensive. yeah, you can get cheap meat, but, i mean, do you really want to eat cheap meat?

You pose a significant misconception: quality meats is not always expensive. Going to a local farm and purchasing direct is very cost-effective and it keeps our local farmers in business. Local produce farms are another great way to pick your own produce or purchase from their stands - again, keeps the local farmers in business.

fair enough: i don't disagree with you on it, I just don't buy meat. i would be the first person to suggest buying direct if you have the financial and storage capability to do so. it may be less per pound when you buy it that way, but it (edit) can be a significant investment.

kayemme

To the OP and Caraiselite:
I work with 300+ physicians in my line of work, ranging in a multitude of medical capacities... low carb intakes are ALWAYS recommended to their patients... and our team of Registered Dieticians all work with the same patients who are under that advisement. CLEARLY its an accepted practice of medicine....

Side note: MFP recognizes low-carb intakes as well.. if it were so damn bad, MFP would not allow it...

Case in point.

what would be a suggested "low carb" daily intake for a vegetarian, do you know? i eat from primarily whole food sources, but still teeter between 150 & 200g/day. I tried to research it a little bit, but some sources say 70g /day and without eating meat, I'm not sure how that is even possible.

(i do sneak in a treat here and there, but i consider my diet mostly clean and aiming to get cleaner)

(edit, i'm not a strict vegetarian but i never cook meat at home. i will often eat it if it is offered to me or in something I don't know about)

hooperkay

are you shopping the ads and using coupons? do you have extra freezer space to buy bulk when thing are on sale?

This is what I do.

paint_it_black

If you have any sort of garden space get a few chickens, I keep 6 hens in my garden and they provide roughly 30 eggs per week now, and maybe 20 per week in winter, at a cost of roughly £3 per month.

tommylindan

If you have the space, buy seeds, grow a garden, raise chickens and rabbit. We have a garden that supplies our squash, tomatoes, onion, garlic, peppers, cukes, green beans, radishes, turnips, lettuce, cabbage, and a lot of other varied veggies and herbs at a fraction of the cost. Seeds are relatively cheap, and you can even count gardening as exercise on your diary.

The chickens and ducks provide meat and eggs, and the rabbits provide meat as well. We also hunt wild game and fish. We have even raised two pigs (out at my brothers house) and the cost for a 270 lb pig worked out to $1.79 a pound, feed butchering and everything.

We have two freezers that are packed, and we may need another one for hunting season.

Having said all this, it is a lot of work and effort, but it is worth it. You also get the satisfaction of knowing exactly what goes into your food. the up front costs can pinch when it comes to raising livestock, but is pays off in the end.

caraiselite

i just went grocery shopping. i spent $180 for 5 people. actually i bought fabric softener, so maybe more like 175 for just food.

when i'm NOT dieting, i easily spend 250+ because of all the junk food!

cramernh

i just went grocery shopping. i spent $180 for 5 people. actually i bought fabric softener, so maybe more like 175 for just food.

when i'm NOT dieting, i easily spend 250+ because of all the junk food!

If its not time to purchase the bulk meats, I typically spend $75.00-$100.00 every two weeks for fresh produce, cheeses, cream for coffee and a few treats for my husband...

weeblex

How do you lower the grocery bill?
ours per week (for a family of 5 but the two girls dont really get junk food) was 300+ the last two weeks for spices, veggies, and meat???
How can i stay on the low carbs, still have the variety, but lower the bill??

Our local store had a meat sale, we bought a ton on sale and saved enough to buy a chest freezer for the basement, now, with exception of special meals or roasts we only buy meat once a quarter.

Also we have a local place that will sell me an entire cow/half cow/quarter cow and his prices are very reasonable if you can store it.