Knee Pain
nikinyx6
Posts: 772 Member
OK, backstory...
Started C25K 2 weeks ago, was doing awesome! No pain other than normal muscle soreness. Quickly became addicted to running, and have been doing it almost every other day.
On my last C25K run (exact same as all of the other runs) I noticed a dull pain behind one knee cap...wasn't too bad, so did the run anyway.
Woke the next day, very intense pain in that knee, so only walked for that day as a workout. When I went to bed that night, knee felt great Woke up the next morning, both knees sore.
I've taken 3 rest days since, nothing but walking, and still, the knee pain comes and goes....kind of scared to run again, as knee pain isn't to be taken lightly....
I guess what I'm wondering, is why would my knees not bother me at all for the first week and half, then hurt like mad, with no change in routine? Any Ideas? I have a doctors appointment next week, but would love to try any other ideas in the meantime.
I miss running
Started C25K 2 weeks ago, was doing awesome! No pain other than normal muscle soreness. Quickly became addicted to running, and have been doing it almost every other day.
On my last C25K run (exact same as all of the other runs) I noticed a dull pain behind one knee cap...wasn't too bad, so did the run anyway.
Woke the next day, very intense pain in that knee, so only walked for that day as a workout. When I went to bed that night, knee felt great Woke up the next morning, both knees sore.
I've taken 3 rest days since, nothing but walking, and still, the knee pain comes and goes....kind of scared to run again, as knee pain isn't to be taken lightly....
I guess what I'm wondering, is why would my knees not bother me at all for the first week and half, then hurt like mad, with no change in routine? Any Ideas? I have a doctors appointment next week, but would love to try any other ideas in the meantime.
I miss running
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I get sore knees to, using a knee strap helps. I don't run but do a lot of jumping and twisting in my workouts.0
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Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.0 -
I get sore knees to, using a knee strap helps. I don't run but do a lot of jumping and twisting in my workouts.
Knee strap? Like the elastic wrap thingy?0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
You don't have to spend $100. Check out Famous Footwear or similar place. Find a store where you can jog in a small circle while wearing them and check the fit yourself. Ask the salesperson to watch you and see if they notice anything. Consider your body like a zipper. When you run, everything should line up together. Consider how a zipper can get messed up if it is twisted even a hair.
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
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Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Repeated stress on an area over time will lead to injury. Running pain/injuries are not like the catastrophic injuries that take place on the football field from one tackle or misplaced foot plant.0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
You don't have to spend $100. Check out Famous Footwear or similar place. Find a store where you can jog in a small circle while wearing them and check the fit yourself. Ask the salesperson to watch you and see if they notice anything. Consider your body like a zipper. When you run, everything should line up together. Consider how a zipper can get messed up if it is twisted even a hair.
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
I don't believe this to be sound advice. Go to a specialty running store and get fitted by someone that has been trained to do so. If you are on a budget, find out what shoe you need, say thank you and then buy them cheaper on-line. I don't like this, but if its the only way to get you in the right shoe, then go for it. I like to give the money to the people that put the time in, but I understand a budget too.0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off
Yep, using the RICE method, rest, ice, compression, elevation...will also have a look at foot locker this weekend, maybe I can find a deal0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off
Yep, using the RICE method, rest, ice, compression, elevation...will also have a look at foot locker this weekend, maybe I can find a deal
No, no, no. Not Foot Locker. Someplace like Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports. Not the big box shoe stores. Half of the "running shoes" they have on their wall aren't suitable for running.0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off
Yep, using the RICE method, rest, ice, compression, elevation...will also have a look at foot locker this weekend, maybe I can find a deal
No, no, no. Not Foot Locker. Someplace like Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports. Not the big box shoe stores. Half of the "running shoes" they have on their wall aren't suitable for running.
i'm in Canada, and have never heard of those stores0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off
Yep, using the RICE method, rest, ice, compression, elevation...will also have a look at foot locker this weekend, maybe I can find a deal
No, no, no. Not Foot Locker. Someplace like Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports. Not the big box shoe stores. Half of the "running shoes" they have on their wall aren't suitable for running.
i'm in Canada, and have never heard of those stores
Google for running stores in your area or ask a local running club for a recommendation. They have them up there.0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off
Yep, using the RICE method, rest, ice, compression, elevation...will also have a look at foot locker this weekend, maybe I can find a deal
No, no, no. Not Foot Locker. Someplace like Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports. Not the big box shoe stores. Half of the "running shoes" they have on their wall aren't suitable for running.
i'm in Canada, and have never heard of those stores
Google for running stores in your area or ask a local running club for a recommendation. They have them up there.
Thanks Carson...hope I can resolve this without medical attention.0 -
Sales to traffic is something all of us in retail get penalized for, we work really hard to try and help people find what will work for them. When they just walk out and go purchase online we actually get measured on that and judged by our corporate offices. Plus our time is taken away from people who may actually buy something and then we dont hit our sales goals. Another measure we are judged on. This effect our raises and the amount of payroll that is alotted to our stores which effects the consumers ability to get an associated right away without waiting. Its a vicious cycle.0
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Knee pain in runners can also be weak hips or muscle imbalances. Try adding squats and lunges in every direction, front,back, side. You can watch you tube videos too.
Carson it right, go to a running store, if you can't afford them, get the brand and size and comparison shop online. It may be tacky cuz they spend time with you but most runners are really just plain helpful and would rather see you in the right shoes in long run.0 -
Have you been fitted at a running store for the right shoes for the way you run?
Most running injuries fall into two broad categories that are interrelated. Overuse or the wrong shoes.
No I have not, but it doesn't make sense to me to have no pain for two weeks, then pain, with the same sneakers. I'm not really in a financial position at this point to be fitted, and buy $100 shoes.
Running injuries can sneak up when you don't notice. The correct shoes and using the correct form solves the problem most of the time. Also, are you icing it down? 30 minutes on, 30 minutes off
Yep, using the RICE method, rest, ice, compression, elevation...will also have a look at foot locker this weekend, maybe I can find a deal
No, no, no. Not Foot Locker. Someplace like Fleet Feet or Road Runner Sports. Not the big box shoe stores. Half of the "running shoes" they have on their wall aren't suitable for running.
i'm in Canada, and have never heard of those stores
Google for running stores in your area or ask a local running club for a recommendation. They have them up there.
Thanks Carson...hope I can resolve this without medical attention.
I want to second Carson and his sage advice. Nothing replaces getting fitted at a running store by a running professional. They will sell you shoes based on your gait, weight and mileage and consider if you run on a treadmill or road. Be sure to bring your current pair in when you do decide to shop/purchase.0 -
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
I don't believe this to be sound advice. Go to a specialty running store and get fitted by someone that has been trained to do so. If you are on a budget, find out what shoe you need, say thank you and then buy them cheaper on-line. I don't like this, but if its the only way to get you in the right shoe, then go for it. I like to give the money to the people that put the time in, but I understand a budget too.
We will have to agree to disagree. I have bought excellent running shoes for a fraction of the price. I used to wear Diadora's all the time when mom and dad were paying the bill, but even then I bought the ones on clearance or at a discount.
No one should be told that they can't afford to run. That's absurd. Everyone can afford a good pair of running shoes if you are a thrifty shopper. You are going to have her thinking that she can't run at all now. :huh:0 -
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
I don't believe this to be sound advice. Go to a specialty running store and get fitted by someone that has been trained to do so. If you are on a budget, find out what shoe you need, say thank you and then buy them cheaper on-line. I don't like this, but if its the only way to get you in the right shoe, then go for it. I like to give the money to the people that put the time in, but I understand a budget too.
We will have to agree to disagree. I have bought excellent running shoes for a fraction of the price. I used to wear Diadora's all the time when mom and dad were paying the bill, but even then I bought the ones on clearance or at a discount.
No one should be told that they can't afford to run. That's absurd. Everyone can afford a good pair of running shoes if you are a thrifty shopper. You are going to have her thinking that she can't run at all now. :huh:
Not everyone has the bio-mechanics to run in just any shoe off the shelf. You are very fortunate in that respect. Relish it.
The OP has already experienced a running injury that very well may be caused by the shoes. Were she to select another pair that isn't right either, it will exacerbate the problem. Isn't it worth the investment to be fitted by a professional at least once? It's your body after all.
You are talking from your experience of one. I am talking from the experiences of dozens upon dozens of runners that have been through the same thing the OP is going through and had their issues resolved by getting fitted for the right shoe.0 -
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
I don't believe this to be sound advice. Go to a specialty running store and get fitted by someone that has been trained to do so. If you are on a budget, find out what shoe you need, say thank you and then buy them cheaper on-line. I don't like this, but if its the only way to get you in the right shoe, then go for it. I like to give the money to the people that put the time in, but I understand a budget too.
We will have to agree to disagree. I have bought excellent running shoes for a fraction of the price. I used to wear Diadora's all the time when mom and dad were paying the bill, but even then I bought the ones on clearance or at a discount.
No one should be told that they can't afford to run. That's absurd. Everyone can afford a good pair of running shoes if you are a thrifty shopper. You are going to have her thinking that she can't run at all now. :huh:
Not everyone has the bio-mechanics to run in just any shoe off the shelf. You are very fortunate in that respect. Relish it.
The OP has already experienced a running injury that very well may be caused by the shoes. Were she to select another pair that isn't right either, it will exacerbate the problem. Isn't it worth the investment to be fitted by a professional at least once? It's your body after all.
You are talking from your experience of one. I am talking from the experiences of dozens upon dozens of runners that have been through the same thing the OP is going through and had their issues resolved by getting fitted for the right shoe.
You are suggesting that she have a professional fit, then go buy a cheap pair online. I don't think buying shoes online is sound advice at all. You have to wear them in the store. You have to jog in place or a small circle to feel them on your feet. You are also suggesting that you can't get running shoes at "box stores," which sounds more like personal preference rather than research-based. There is nothing wrong with so-called "box stores."
FYI: This isn't just my experience, either. But also the experience of the same dozens of team-mates and friends, etc. You assume too much.0 -
You might want to be measured and fit for good running shoes. You may not have enough support. Coming from someone who has flat feet (literally) this makes a world of difference. Taking a glucosamine supplement can help with joints as well (but it usually takes about 2 weeks before you start to notice the difference, but it helps.) That stuff worked for me0
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What is your post run stretching routine?
Make sure you are stretching your calf, quads, IT band and ham stings out enough. I starting having problems with my knees and it was because the tendons were pulling on the knee. The pain came on fast and did not have any problems before. I got a good Pro stretch and foam roller to help me stretch and they worked like a charm. Since you’re on a tight budget you can get a cheap rolling pin and try rolling out your legs. At least is it a cheap place to start to solve the problem. If it continues to bother you I would see a Dr. My chiropractor who specializes in sports was a huge help to me.
Below are 2 videos that helped me. They are by the same guy who has other good videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LDhKVtkfnsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcnAXw47nMw&feature=relmfu
As far as running shoes, Good ones/ the right ones do make a huge difference. I also highly recommend getting fitted at a true running store. They can also film you while you run and get you fitted for the right shoe.
EDIT : Foam Roller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMNQ_dncQH0&feature=related0 -
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
I don't believe this to be sound advice. Go to a specialty running store and get fitted by someone that has been trained to do so. If you are on a budget, find out what shoe you need, say thank you and then buy them cheaper on-line. I don't like this, but if its the only way to get you in the right shoe, then go for it. I like to give the money to the people that put the time in, but I understand a budget too.
We will have to agree to disagree. I have bought excellent running shoes for a fraction of the price. I used to wear Diadora's all the time when mom and dad were paying the bill, but even then I bought the ones on clearance or at a discount.
No one should be told that they can't afford to run. That's absurd. Everyone can afford a good pair of running shoes if you are a thrifty shopper. You are going to have her thinking that she can't run at all now. :huh:
Not everyone has the bio-mechanics to run in just any shoe off the shelf. You are very fortunate in that respect. Relish it.
The OP has already experienced a running injury that very well may be caused by the shoes. Were she to select another pair that isn't right either, it will exacerbate the problem. Isn't it worth the investment to be fitted by a professional at least once? It's your body after all.
You are talking from your experience of one. I am talking from the experiences of dozens upon dozens of runners that have been through the same thing the OP is going through and had their issues resolved by getting fitted for the right shoe.
You are suggesting that she have a professional fit, then go buy a cheap pair online. I don't think buying shoes online is sound advice at all. You have to wear them in the store. You have to jog in place or a small circle to feel them on your feet. You are also suggesting that you can't get running shoes at "box stores," which sounds more like personal preference rather than research-based. There is nothing wrong with so-called "box stores."
FYI: This isn't just my experience, either. But also the experience of the same dozens of team-mates and friends, etc. You assume too much.
Maybe I wasn't crystal clear. Get fitted. Try on shoes. Find the one that you like, THEN buy THAT SAME SHOE on-line for less. I didn't think I really needed to spell it out.
Also, I didn't say you couldn't get good shoes at a big-box store. You can, but not all of the shoes they have are true running shoes, even on the running shoe wall. What you can't get at the big box stores is a professional fitting (I am sure they may be exceptions to this, but for the most part this is true).0 -
This just happend to me since I have been training to run a half marathon in September only one of my knees has been doing this. Rest is very important as well as stretching!! Make sure you are stretching and strength training your thigh mucsles ( back and front)..Also I am going to a running store this weekend to get my Gait Analysis ~ you don't necessarily have to purchase their shoes but they will help you find the perfect running show for you baised on how you land on your feet, etc.
I also use a support strap around my knee when I run ( you can get this at any sporting goods store it looks like a singel velcro strap) and take an ibuprofen about 30 minutes before I run. Then after I run I stretch for at least 10-15 minutes and then ice my knee both top and bottom for 20 minutes This has helped so much..but I thinks it is extremley important to be fitted for the proper shoes and have correct form when running to prevent further injuries and I want to keep on running so I am taking pre-cautions and I listen to my body...Hope this helps. Feel free to add me if you have anymore questions. Though I am not an expert but I do take expert advice from several people who have been running for years!! :flowerforyou:0 -
Ask 100 runners what is the best shoe and you'll get 100 answers.
The best shoe for you is one that fits you AND one that you can afford.0 -
There are plenty of off-brand running shoes that you can purchase at bargain stores for a fraction of the price of Nike or Adidas. Also, be on the look-out for clearance sales. Last year's running shoe may not be as fashionable, but it's still a good running shoe.
I don't believe this to be sound advice. Go to a specialty running store and get fitted by someone that has been trained to do so. If you are on a budget, find out what shoe you need, say thank you and then buy them cheaper on-line. I don't like this, but if its the only way to get you in the right shoe, then go for it. I like to give the money to the people that put the time in, but I understand a budget too.
We will have to agree to disagree. I have bought excellent running shoes for a fraction of the price. I used to wear Diadora's all the time when mom and dad were paying the bill, but even then I bought the ones on clearance or at a discount.
No one should be told that they can't afford to run. That's absurd. Everyone can afford a good pair of running shoes if you are a thrifty shopper. You are going to have her thinking that she can't run at all now. :huh:
Not everyone has the bio-mechanics to run in just any shoe off the shelf. You are very fortunate in that respect. Relish it.
The OP has already experienced a running injury that very well may be caused by the shoes. Were she to select another pair that isn't right either, it will exacerbate the problem. Isn't it worth the investment to be fitted by a professional at least once? It's your body after all.
You are talking from your experience of one. I am talking from the experiences of dozens upon dozens of runners that have been through the same thing the OP is going through and had their issues resolved by getting fitted for the right shoe.
You are suggesting that she have a professional fit, then go buy a cheap pair online. I don't think buying shoes online is sound advice at all. You have to wear them in the store. You have to jog in place or a small circle to feel them on your feet. You are also suggesting that you can't get running shoes at "box stores," which sounds more like personal preference rather than research-based. There is nothing wrong with so-called "box stores."
FYI: This isn't just my experience, either. But also the experience of the same dozens of team-mates and friends, etc. You assume too much.
Maybe I wasn't crystal clear. Get fitted. Try on shoes. Find the one that you like, THEN buy THAT SAME SHOE on-line for less. I didn't think I really needed to spell it out.
Also, I didn't say you couldn't get good shoes at a big-box store. You can, but not all of the shoes they have are true running shoes, even on the running shoe wall. What you can't get at the big box stores is a professional fitting (I am sure they may be exceptions to this, but for the most part this is true).
I agree 100% with CarsonRuns. Getting a good fit at a reputable running store and trying the shoe on before buying it is important.
When I was in Mass I visited Bayside Runners in Plymouth Mass here is a Video of what you should look for in a true good fitting at a running store.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150207298147020&saved
EDIT: Plus most local running stores are locally owned and you will be supporting your local community and neighbors not a big box store from out of state. Just an extra bonus!0 -
That's what MFP is for ~ We are here for support and advice and ideas ~ I would rather have 100 answers then none and figure out what works best for me ~ :happy:0
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Getting the right shoes is certainly sound advice, but I am not sure if running in mediocre shoes for 2 weeks should be enough to cause injury\pain like that. If new shoes do not help, see a doctor, preferably one into sports\sports medicine.0
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Getting the right shoes is certainly sound advice, but I am not sure if running in mediocre shoes for 2 weeks should be enough to cause injury\pain like that. If new shoes do not help, see a doctor, preferably one into sports\sports medicine.
It can. It's not about the quality of the shoe, but what it does to your gait. If she is in a motion control shoe and really needs to be in a neutral shoe, the shoe is over correcting something that doesn't need to be corrected and putting undue strain on the legs. As an example.0 -
Getting the right shoes is certainly sound advice, but I am not sure if running in mediocre shoes for 2 weeks should be enough to cause injury\pain like that. If new shoes do not help, see a doctor, preferably one into sports\sports medicine.
It can. It's not about the quality of the shoe, but what it does to your gait. If she is in a motion control shoe and really needs to be in a neutral shoe, the shoe is over correcting something that doesn't need to be corrected and putting undue strain on the legs. As an example.
Agreed with CarsonRuns :happy:0 -
Hi Totally going away from the trainers topic.... I also suffered knee problems when i first started making the transition from walking to running. The knee problems occured when walking long distances in my walking boots and when running hard in my trainers. I started taking supplements, Glucosamine Sulphate, Calcium and Omega 3, all known to help with joints. Recently, after starting a new job with longer hours i havent been taking the supplememts and the pain is back. Proof enough for me!0
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