Too Much "Skinny" Not Enough "Healthy".

Priincess_Natalie

WAIT WAIT. I think you guys aren't understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm saying how skinny and healthy are not the same thing because not every skinny person is healthy and not every healthy person is skinny.. I'm saying the mainstream Weight loss industry pushes more of a "skinny" image rather than a healthy one.

yeah but the way you are wording it - even here with your clarification- tends to imply that one can't both skinny AND healthy.this is simply not 100% the case.

i used to play rugby with some downright skinny girls who were fit, healthy and had bones showing. all of that is going to depend on body type. for instance someone with a longer torso is going to be able to have visible ribs more so than someone like me with a short torso. i have a friend who's 5'7 pear shaped, long torso and 200 pounds (by no means skinny) and you can see her ribs. at the moment i have a lot of fat on my hips, but the last time i was at goal weight, my hip bones showed and i was super healthy, very fit and nowhere near skinny in terms of body fat percentage.


and don't get me wrong i understand what you are trying to say, but i think the way you trying to say it is what's causing confusion. it doesn't seem to acknowledge that women have different body types.

THANK YOU. Watch out though, she's fixing to flip out on you. Refer to my posts about the same thing and her less than appropriate reactions to them.

1. you said I'm IMPLYING IT. That's 100% not true. but that also proves that I didn't say ANYTHING about that.
2. Telling me I said something but not giving me proof doesn't make sense.
3. Define flipping out. Asking you where you're getting your accusations from is not flipping out.
4. You're being extremely sensitive.

I'm done arguing with you. If most of the people on this thread are taking you wrong or misunderstanding your point/meaning then do you think it's safer to assume it's them or perhaps your OP wasn't as clearly stated as you had hoped it was?

Priincess_Natalie

WAIT WAIT. I think you guys aren't understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm saying how skinny and healthy are not the same thing because not every skinny person is healthy and not every healthy person is skinny.. I'm saying the mainstream Weight loss industry pushes more of a "skinny" image rather than a healthy one.

yeah but the way you are wording it - even here with your clarification- tends to imply that one can't both skinny AND healthy.this is simply not 100% the case.

i used to play rugby with some downright skinny girls who were fit, healthy and had bones showing. all of that is going to depend on body type. for instance someone with a longer torso is going to be able to have visible ribs more so than someone like me with a short torso. i have a friend who's 5'7 pear shaped, long torso and 200 pounds (by no means skinny) and you can see her ribs. at the moment i have a lot of fat on my hips, but the last time i was at goal weight, my hip bones showed and i was super healthy, very fit and nowhere near skinny in terms of body fat percentage.


and don't get me wrong i understand what you are trying to say, but i think the way you trying to say it is what's causing confusion. it doesn't seem to acknowledge that women have different body types.

THANK YOU. Watch out though, she's fixing to flip out on you. Refer to my posts about the same thing and her less than appropriate reactions to them.

1. you said I'm IMPLYING IT. That's 100% not true. but that also proves that I didn't say ANYTHING about that.
2. Telling me I said something but not giving me proof doesn't make sense.
3. Define flipping out. Asking you where you're getting your accusations from is not flipping out.
4. You're being extremely sensitive.

Honestly, I would block her if I were you. Nothing you say will ever be 'okay' in her books. Being critical of people striving to just be 'dangerously skinny' is the ultimate sin to her. She's always looking for fights. Just leave her be.

Who me?

Tanisha1014

WAIT WAIT. I think you guys aren't understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm saying how skinny and healthy are not the same thing because not every skinny person is healthy and not every healthy person is skinny.. I'm saying the mainstream Weight loss industry pushes more of a "skinny" image rather than a healthy one.

yeah but the way you are wording it - even here with your clarification- tends to imply that one can't both skinny AND healthy.this is simply not 100% the case.

i used to play rugby with some downright skinny girls who were fit, healthy and had bones showing. all of that is going to depend on body type. for instance someone with a longer torso is going to be able to have visible ribs more so than someone like me with a short torso. i have a friend who's 5'7 pear shaped, long torso and 200 pounds (by no means skinny) and you can see her ribs. at the moment i have a lot of fat on my hips, but the last time i was at goal weight, my hip bones showed and i was super healthy, very fit and nowhere near skinny in terms of body fat percentage.


and don't get me wrong i understand what you are trying to say, but i think the way you trying to say it is what's causing confusion. it doesn't seem to acknowledge that women have different body types.

THANK YOU. Watch out though, she's fixing to flip out on you. Refer to my posts about the same thing and her less than appropriate reactions to them.

1. you said I'm IMPLYING IT. That's 100% not true. but that also proves that I didn't say ANYTHING about that.
2. Telling me I said something but not giving me proof doesn't make sense.
3. Define flipping out. Asking you where you're getting your accusations from is not flipping out.
4. You're being extremely sensitive.

I'm done arguing with you. If most of the people on this thread are taking you wrong or misunderstanding your point/meaning then do you think it's safer to assume it's them or perhaps your OP wasn't as clearly stated as you had hoped it was?

There are only 3 people who didn't agree but 2 of them understood what I meant. You're the only one arguing. You're accusing me of things I didn't say. I'm defending myself, not to mention the hip bones and rib cages weren't even the point of my post. You're the only one who's offended... You think I'm angry at you when I'm really confused by you.

Laces_0ut

seems to me people can be skinny without a lot of muscle and still be healthy. on the flip side if they are overweight you know that is not healthy.

bonsaiblossom

I would rather be thin (hwp) and healthy than be fat (or so called "thick") and "healthy" lol. Just because someone is thin or fit doesn't mean that they are unhealthy. Being overweight or obese is more dangerous than being thin or skinny. Some thin people do have eating disorders, but overweight people can just as easily have an eating disorder. What might be considered "skinny" to you, might not be "skinny" to that person, athletic people will usually be thinner. That same person may consider you to be "fat" or "big", when you think that you are "normal-sized" or just a little bit over-weight. Being overweight with alot of fat on your body just isn't healthy, period. I would never WANT to be fat or big. Being overweight is more associated with unhealthy. Just because you are not thin, doesn't mean that everyone else who is thin isn't healthy or is underweight. Your perspective is quite biased... if you aren't fit/thin/skinny or whatever, it does in no way mean that women/girls who are smaller than you are not healthy. OP (Tanisha), you may now shoot yourself in the foot. Good day ^_^

blonde71

I don't want to be skinny but rather aim to be fit.

Priincess_Natalie

WAIT WAIT. I think you guys aren't understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm saying how skinny and healthy are not the same thing because not every skinny person is healthy and not every healthy person is skinny.. I'm saying the mainstream Weight loss industry pushes more of a "skinny" image rather than a healthy one.

yeah but the way you are wording it - even here with your clarification- tends to imply that one can't both skinny AND healthy.this is simply not 100% the case.

i used to play rugby with some downright skinny girls who were fit, healthy and had bones showing. all of that is going to depend on body type. for instance someone with a longer torso is going to be able to have visible ribs more so than someone like me with a short torso. i have a friend who's 5'7 pear shaped, long torso and 200 pounds (by no means skinny) and you can see her ribs. at the moment i have a lot of fat on my hips, but the last time i was at goal weight, my hip bones showed and i was super healthy, very fit and nowhere near skinny in terms of body fat percentage.


and don't get me wrong i understand what you are trying to say, but i think the way you trying to say it is what's causing confusion. it doesn't seem to acknowledge that women have different body types.

THANK YOU. Watch out though, she's fixing to flip out on you. Refer to my posts about the same thing and her less than appropriate reactions to them.

1. you said I'm IMPLYING IT. That's 100% not true. but that also proves that I didn't say ANYTHING about that.
2. Telling me I said something but not giving me proof doesn't make sense.
3. Define flipping out. Asking you where you're getting your accusations from is not flipping out.
4. You're being extremely sensitive.

I'm done arguing with you. If most of the people on this thread are taking you wrong or misunderstanding your point/meaning then do you think it's safer to assume it's them or perhaps your OP wasn't as clearly stated as you had hoped it was?

There are only 3 people who didn't agree but 2 of them understood what I meant. You're the only one arguing. You're accusing me of things I didn't say. I'm defending myself, not to mention the hip bones and rib cages weren't even the point of my post. You're the only one who's offended... You think I'm angry at you when I'm really confused by you.

Again, I am not and have not been offended by you. Perhaps, to me, you sound aggressive when you're defending yourself. If I am taking you wrong then I apologize. I understand your original post, I think, I just wanted to clarify the same thing the other posted tried to clarify about the bones showing.

Laces_0ut

I would rather be thin (hwp) and healthy than be fat (or so called "thick") and "healthy" lol. Just because someone is thin or fit doesn't mean that they are unhealthy. Being overweight or obese is more dangerous than being thin or skinny. Some thin people do have eating disorders, but overweight people can just as easily have an eating disorder. What might be considered "skinny" to you, might not be "skinny" to that person, athletic people will usually be thinner. That same person may consider you to be "fat" or "big", when you think that you are "normal-sized" or just a little bit over-weight. Being overweight with alot of fat on your body just isn't healthy, period. I would never WANT to be fat or big. Being overweight is more associated with unhealthy. Just because you are not thin, doesn't mean that everyone else who is thin isn't healthy or is underweight. Your perspective is quite biased... if aren't fit/thin/skinny or whatever, it does in no way mean that women/girls who are smaller than you are not healthy. OP, you may now shoot yourself in the foot.

i dont think ive ever agreed with a post more on this site.

Ayla70

WAIT WAIT. I think you guys aren't understanding what I'm saying lol. I'm saying how skinny and healthy are not the same thing because not every skinny person is healthy and not every healthy person is skinny.. I'm saying the mainstream Weight loss industry pushes more of a "skinny" image rather than a healthy one.

I hear you. I was absolutely hounded on a facebook page recently when they posted a photo of a woman wearing a bikini. I had absolutely NO idea who the woman was, but I mentioned that she looked malnourished. I'm sure she's a lovely girl, pretty, etc. But to me, her hip bones and rib bones jutting out looked unhealthy. Apparently she's some famous swimmer, so therefore MUST be the epitome of health and fitness.

I don't ever want to be skinny. Not ever! I want to be fit and healthy with curves. Lots of curves. I can still be curvy in a normal weight range. Unfortunately for me I don't like my chances hahaha, I have no bum and no boobs!

dad106

Darling why do you think 95% of people are losing weight if they don't want to skinny or thin? As my trainer once told me, No one wants to be big.

You can be fit and healthy.. You can also be skinny and fit.. and skinny and healthy.

It's all about how you define those words.. not how someone else defines them.

I'm 5'9 and 150 pounds. I'm not skinny but I'm thin. and also I consider my self to be pretty fit. I'm also in pretty good health with no major health problems. My ribs show a bit when I stretch... and my hip bones pop up when I lay down and stand up. So tell me again how skinny/healthy/fit are not the same thing? If you work hard enough, I def. think you can have all three.

wish21

I want to be skinny. Healthy, yes, fit too.

Priincess_Natalie

This is not meant to come off as an attack but I think perhaps it's the first paragraph of your post that most people, including myself, are having a hard time with. They are missing your point because the first paragraph seems a bit harsh and perhaps even judgmental even if those were not your intentions.

It's very hard to state something on the internet in a way that will be taken the way you meant it. Perhaps better luck next time but I don't see this thread going anywhere good .

bonsaiblossom

Darling why do you think 95% of people are losing weight if they don't want to skinny or thin? As my trainer once told me, No one wants to be big.

You can be fit and healthy.. You can also be skinny and fit.. and skinny and healthy.

It's all about how you define those words.. not how someone else defines them.

I'm 5'9 and 150 pounds. I'm not skinny but I'm thin. and also I consider my self to be pretty fit. I'm also in pretty good health with no major health problems. My ribs show a bit when I stretch... and my hip bones pop up when I lay down and stand up. So tell me again how skinny/healthy/fit are not the same thing? If you work hard enough, I def. think you can have all three.

*Claps** I cant post my gifs here i guess . Im cosigning

Tanisha1014

I would rather be thin (hwp) and healthy than be fat (or so called "thick") and "healthy" lol. Just because someone is thin or fit doesn't mean that they are unhealthy. Being overweight or obese is more dangerous than being thin or skinny. Some thin people do have eating disorders, but overweight people can just as easily have an eating disorder. What might be considered "skinny" to you, might not be "skinny" to that person, athletic people will usually be thinner. That same person may consider you to be "fat" or "big", when you think that you are "normal-sized" or just a little bit over-weight. Being overweight with alot of fat on your body just isn't healthy, period. I would never WANT to be fat or big. Being overweight is more associated with unhealthy. Just because you are not thin, doesn't mean that everyone else who is thin isn't healthy or is underweight. Your perspective is quite biased... if you aren't fit/thin/skinny or whatever, it does in no way mean that women/girls who are smaller than you are not healthy. OP (Tanisha), you may now shoot yourself in the foot. Good day ^_^

Anorexia and Obesity... both can kill you so Idk why you're even trying to bash one more than the other. and JUST like you said. Athletes tend to be slimmer.That's because they actually workout a lot, they're fit. They're not fit because they were "born slim" they're fit because they worked to get that way. Which is the EXACT point I was making. with saying countless times "Skinny" and "Fit" are two different things. Fit is your stance and whether or not you have ABILITY to do things. Such as run for miles, do countless push ups and sit ups. WHICH not every skinny or "normal weight" (w/e that is) can do. Skinny is just a body type. Thin is just a body type.

Does that make more sense? Explaining each term?

Laces_0ut

again...skinny can be and usually is healthy whereas being overweight is not.

Tanisha1014

again...skinny can be and usually is healthy whereas being overweight is not.

Anorexic people are skinny (not saying skinny is the definition anorexic for people assuming again) but they're not healthy. "usually" doesn't mean all the time. Which ONCE AGAIN for the 6,000th time I swear was my point.

Unless a fat person has heart disease, is obese, has diabetes you can't assume they're unhealthy either. BUT just how you guys for some reason think I feel anyone who is skinny is unhealthy, some people think anything over a size 4 is fat.

bonsaiblossom

I would rather be thin (hwp) and healthy than be fat (or so called "thick") and "healthy" lol. Just because someone is thin or fit doesn't mean that they are unhealthy. Being overweight or obese is more dangerous than being thin or skinny. Some thin people do have eating disorders, but overweight people can just as easily have an eating disorder. What might be considered "skinny" to you, might not be "skinny" to that person, athletic people will usually be thinner. That same person may consider you to be "fat" or "big", when you think that you are "normal-sized" or just a little bit over-weight. Being overweight with alot of fat on your body just isn't healthy, period. I would never WANT to be fat or big. Being overweight is more associated with unhealthy. Just because you are not thin, doesn't mean that everyone else who is thin isn't healthy or is underweight. Your perspective is quite biased... if you aren't fit/thin/skinny or whatever, it does in no way mean that women/girls who are smaller than you are not healthy. OP (Tanisha), you may now shoot yourself in the foot. Good day ^_^

Anorexia and Obesity... both can kill you so Idk why you're even trying to bash one more than the other. and JUST like you said. Athletes tend to be slimmer.That's because they actually workout a lot, they're fit. They're not fit because they were "born slim" they're fit because they worked to get that way. Which is the EXACT point I was making. with saying countless times "Skinny" and "Fit" are two different things. Fit is your stance and whether or not you have ABILITY to do things. Such as run for miles, do countless push ups and sit ups. WHICH not every skinny or "normal weight" (w/e that is) can do. Skinny is just a body type. Thin is just a body type.

Does that make more sense? Explaining each term?

Fit people tend to be thin. Also, I would like to point out that you can be fit, and not able to run miles on end, you can be fit and not be able to complete countless push-ups...but that isn't the point of this topic. You created this thread so STICK TO OUR GUNS. Hopefully that makes sense to you. I will not entertain a pointless argument from someone who is so closed-minded. I think that you should re-evaluate yourself. Good day ^_^

Tanisha1014

I would rather be thin (hwp) and healthy than be fat (or so called "thick") and "healthy" lol. Just because someone is thin or fit doesn't mean that they are unhealthy. Being overweight or obese is more dangerous than being thin or skinny. Some thin people do have eating disorders, but overweight people can just as easily have an eating disorder. What might be considered "skinny" to you, might not be "skinny" to that person, athletic people will usually be thinner. That same person may consider you to be "fat" or "big", when you think that you are "normal-sized" or just a little bit over-weight. Being overweight with alot of fat on your body just isn't healthy, period. I would never WANT to be fat or big. Being overweight is more associated with unhealthy. Just because you are not thin, doesn't mean that everyone else who is thin isn't healthy or is underweight. Your perspective is quite biased... if you aren't fit/thin/skinny or whatever, it does in no way mean that women/girls who are smaller than you are not healthy. OP (Tanisha), you may now shoot yourself in the foot. Good day ^_^

Anorexia and Obesity... both can kill you so Idk why you're even trying to bash one more than the other. and JUST like you said. Athletes tend to be slimmer.That's because they actually workout a lot, they're fit. They're not fit because they were "born slim" they're fit because they worked to get that way. Which is the EXACT point I was making. with saying countless times "Skinny" and "Fit" are two different things. Fit is your stance and whether or not you have ABILITY to do things. Such as run for miles, do countless push ups and sit ups. WHICH not every skinny or "normal weight" (w/e that is) can do. Skinny is just a body type. Thin is just a body type.

Does that make more sense? Explaining each term?

Fit people tend to be thin. Also, I would like to point out that you can be fit, and not able to run miles on end, you can be fit and not be able to complete countless push-ups...but that isn't the point of this topic. You created this thread so STICK TO OUR GUNS. Hopefully that makes sense to you. I will not entertain a pointless argument from someone who is so closed-minded. I think that you should re-evaluate yourself. Good day ^_^

I am sticking to my guns (obsessed with guns are we?). You have a different definition of fit, which should have made you realize your problem with my post earlier. and if you don't want to entertain don't respond. and closed minded me? Not you, someone who went off about fat people deeming them to be the worst things ever? Lol ALRIGHT then.

Laces_0ut

again...skinny can be and usually is healthy whereas being overweight is not.

Anorexic people are skinny (not saying skinny is the definition anorexic for people assuming again) but they're not healthy. "usually" doesn't mean all the time. Which ONCE AGAIN for the 6,000th time I swear was my point.

Unless a fat person has heart disease, is obese, has diabetes you can't assume they're unhealthy either. BUT just how you guys for some reason think I feel anyone who is skinny is unhealthy, some people think anything over a size 4 is fat.

so you think being fat isnt unhealthy? glad you cleared that up. now i see where your thought process is coming from. you should read up on all the problems being fat cause.

if you are fat you are unhealthy...period.

Babsvii

I mentioned two different things though. I said I see girls with hip bones and exposed rib cages claiming to be fit.

Right here is your proof that you were asking for that you DID in fact relate hip bones and exposed rib cages to being unhealthy... i can tell you that i am FAR from being unhealthy, i have all the things showing that YOU said were signs of being unhealthy. hip bones, rib cage and my spine shows... I'm not unhealthy i just have a low body fat percentage which is something i work very hard for everyday! and not because I'm unhealthy i probably eat more everyday then you do. Maybe you need to watch the way you word things when you are categorizing "skinny" women with "unhealthy" women.

i also see what you were trying to say but you should maybe re read things before you post them. being skinny is not a bad thing... being too skinny is they are both two very different things just like being chunky isn't horrible and being obese is. So get over people using the word skinny.

RealWomenLovePitbulls

i think that people just need to realize what you said, not all skinny people are healthy, the more people hear about "skinny fat" the better, because when i was a teenager, i was thin as could be, but not healthy, all i ever ate was junk

dad106

I am sticking to my guns (obsessed with guns are we?). You have a different definition of fit, which should have made you realize your problem with my post earlier. and if you don't want to entertain don't respond. and closed minded me? Not you, someone who went off about fat people deeming them to be the worst things ever? Lol ALRIGHT then.

Ding Ding Ding! You finally have a winning post!

Everyone has different definitions of the words.. So you can't get on this forum and say that skinny/healthy/fit aren't the same.

Depending on how a person defines it, they can be skinny/healthy/fit... and whatever other word they choose to describe themselves with.

BTW Some anorexic people think what they are doing is perfectly fine and healthy.. so by their definition, they are healthy. It's in your eyes that they are unhealthy.

meshashesha2012

The MAIN topic for this post is really just that it's also crazy how Society (I hate using that term, reminds me of people who talk like they know everything) focuses Weight Loss WAY TOO MUCH on being Skinny rather than being Healthy.

i just wanted to say that i dont think society focuses too much on being skinny OR being healthy. if it did then we wouldnt have an obesity epidemic in the first place. in the past years we've seen a lot of fat acceptance go on which IMO has helped people delude themselves into thinking they are OK when in actuality they aren't, or things just haven't caught up to them.

fat people talking about how anorexics and skinny people are also healthy kind of misses the point. this isnt like the olympics so there is no competition over who's more unhealthy as winning will allow the other side to somehow flip to healthy.

and for the record i agree with those who say being too fat for your body isn't healthy. just because that person doesnt have issues now doesnt mean that stuff wont develop later. for instance in 2010 i had a normal blood pressure, normal blood levels, etc then by the end of 2011 (i hadnt gained weight in that year) i suddenly had high blood pressure, was having heart trouble and was prediabetic. that didnt come out of nowhere, it came out of the extra fat on my body :laugh: so me claiming to be healthy in 2010 was complete BS.

of course being severely underweight is also not healthy, but let's be honest. given how many people are obese, them worrying about being underweight is like a poor person worrying about getting a job because he might just become a gazillionaire and have to pay higher taxes. there's so much room between one and the other, but yet i see so many overweight/obese people use the "i dont want to get too skinny because that's not healthy" excuse as a way to not lose any weight

Tanisha1014

Dear Tanisha,
I am not accepting your friend request or reading your creepy messages, I am okay with us not agreeing, I hope that you are able to eventually accept that. Please leave me alone, you are starting to scare me.

Sincerely,
BonsaiBlossom

P.S. Please seek help.

Sending you a message about the difference between obesity and anorexia is....

-sending you a friend request?
-bothering YOU when you told me to shoot myself when I didn't ask you to comment on anything?
-"scares" you enough to respond to me on a public post to make it seem like I did anything to you?

lol maybe you should get a dictionary because you don't know the meaning of anything.

Laces_0ut

There is only one way to settle this.

DANCE OFF!