Carb free and fat free??
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I am trying to loose 5 pounds in 3 weeks and want to know what is the best food to eat to avoid water gain and bloating. I thought going carb free for 3 weeks would be good, but what do you eat when you go carb free. I cant sit around eating meat, because then I will can weight. Does anyone have any ideas for a few meals(breakfast, lunch and dinner) that would be good for my 3 week fast?
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carbs do retain water- But you can eat complex carbs (there aren't many options for complex carbs) and of course veggies and lean meats0
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you have to eat some carbs dear! But to keep them low, stick with high protein, lots of meat, eggs, very little fruit, spinach is good - watch your veggies, even some of those are pretty carboloaded. brothy soup (w/o noodles) can be alright, some dairy...three weeks is tough, good luck!!!0
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YOU NEED FAT to live and thrive. Eating it does not increase your size and eating mass quantities of protein can be the cause of other ailments.0
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*Agrees with MRD* Fat is a must...and i personally think that carbs that come from fruits and veggies should be eaten.....I find that the carbs in breads/pastas/crackers etc are the carbs you want to stay away from....:flowerforyou:0
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p.s. everyones body is different you have to take that into account....But the best results i've found when losing weight is eating smart foods .....a bunch of fresh produce...my choice fruit are apples...and mostly green veggies....ill usually have an apple for breakfast about 2 hours later a fat free yogurt another 2 hours a salad with a serving of sliced turkey.....another 2 hours i have another apple and another two hours I have a serving of meat (I eat mostly chicken)....and a green vegetable......but thats just what works for me...:flowerforyou:0
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The body needs both fat and carbs. Carbs are energy. I used to live on 20 carbs a day and I lost weight but I spent the day in the hospital because the lack of carbs had made my blood sugar drop dangerously low. Any diet that eliminates or extremely restricts certain foods is a bad idea. You may end up having more health problems then you anticipate. The key is to make healthy choices, eat a balanced diet and exercise. I have lost over 100 pounds but the biggest mistake I made was doing a low carb diet. Now I am losing weight the healthy way, I have more energy and I am eating real food.0
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I am trying to loose 5 pounds in 3 weeks and want to know what is the best food to eat to avoid water gain and bloating. I thought going carb free for 3 weeks would be good, but what do you eat when you go carb free. I cant sit around eating meat, because then I will can weight. Does anyone have any ideas for a few meals(breakfast, lunch and dinner) that would be good for my 3 week fast?
There are people doing Zero carb eating plans that are losing weight and YES, eating only meat. Protein by itself will not cause you to gain weight. You will get very bored very quickly though............
I encourage you to go low carb and that does not mean fat free. Again, FAT is your friend, not the enemy. It takes fat to burn fat.
PM me if you are interested in some eating plans.0 -
The body needs both fat and carbs. Carbs are energy. I used to live on 20 carbs a day and I lost weight but I spent the day in the hospital because the lack of carbs had made my blood sugar drop dangerously low. Any diet that eliminates or extremely restricts certain foods is a bad idea. You may end up having more health problems then you anticipate. The key is to make healthy choices, eat a balanced diet and exercise. I have lost over 100 pounds but the biggest mistake I made was doing a low carb diet. Now I am losing weight the healthy way, I have more energy and I am eating real food.
There is nothing unhealthy about a low carb diet..................I eat less than 20 carbs per day and I have more energy than I have had in a very long time.............
The lack of carbs doesn't make your blood sugar too low, it is the not eating enough. You can't starve your body and expect it to be healthy.............0 -
p.s. everyones body is different you have to take that into account....But the best results i've found when losing weight is eating smart foods .....a bunch of fresh produce...my choice fruit are apples...and mostly green veggies....ill usually have an apple for breakfast about 2 hours later a fat free yogurt another 2 hours a salad with a serving of sliced turkey.....another 2 hours i have another apple and another two hours I have a serving of meat (I eat mostly chicken)....and a green vegetable......but thats just what works for me...:flowerforyou:
You are pretty much eating in a South Beach or Atkins way of eating..................That is a low carb eating plan that you described above.0 -
Fat: 1 gram = 9 calories
Protein: 1 gram = 4 calories
Carbohydrates: 1 gram = 4 calories
If you over indulge in any type of nutrient, you will gain weight. Carbs are not the enemy but they do need to be monitored, like all food intake. If you do decide to go lower carb, higher fat and protein, you'll still need to practice portion control and watch the calorie intake.
ETA: Refined simple carbs are not good, i.e. over processed foods like white bread, white flour, sugar, corn syrup, etc. They give far less nutrition per calorie consumed and spike the blood sugar levels in your system.0 -
yup....I used to eat a low carb eating plan....a long long time ago and i dropped 30-40lbs in i think 3-4months and gained alot of lean muscle.....:flowerforyou: its harder to stay on track now tho with 2 kids and a boyfriend who likes high carb foods....p.s. everyones body is different you have to take that into account....But the best results i've found when losing weight is eating smart foods .....a bunch of fresh produce...my choice fruit are apples...and mostly green veggies....ill usually have an apple for breakfast about 2 hours later a fat free yogurt another 2 hours a salad with a serving of sliced turkey.....another 2 hours i have another apple and another two hours I have a serving of meat (I eat mostly chicken)....and a green vegetable......but thats just what works for me...:flowerforyou:
You are pretty much eating in a South Beach or Atkins way of eating..................That is a low carb eating plan that you described above.
I agree with lioness there is nothing wrong with eating a low carb diet...but what people fail to realize is that you have to alter your eating to accomidate eating the low carbs.....therefore increase the protien and fats.. not to mention u do get carbs so long as youre eating your produce (I call them good carbs) .....and i normally dont count those seeing as theyre natural carbs (unless i eat more than 4 fruits a day)0 -
The body needs both fat and carbs. Carbs are energy. I used to live on 20 carbs a day and I lost weight but I spent the day in the hospital because the lack of carbs had made my blood sugar drop dangerously low. Any diet that eliminates or extremely restricts certain foods is a bad idea. You may end up having more health problems then you anticipate. The key is to make healthy choices, eat a balanced diet and exercise. I have lost over 100 pounds but the biggest mistake I made was doing a low carb diet. Now I am losing weight the healthy way, I have more energy and I am eating real food.
There is nothing unhealthy about a low carb diet..................I eat less than 20 carbs per day and I have more energy than I have had in a very long time.............
The lack of carbs doesn't make your blood sugar too low, it is the not eating enough. You can't starve your body and expect it to be healthy.............
I am sorry but I was told by doctors that the years of low carb dieting was what helped cause my health problems. Low and no carb diets are very unhealthy that is not my opinion that is what medical professionals have told me. I would never recomend doing that type of diet because of what it did to my body.0 -
What Are the Health Risks Associated With High Protein, Low Carb Diets?
High protein diets can cause a number of health problems, including:
Kidney failure. Consuming too much protein puts a strain on the kidneys, which can make a person susceptible to kidney disease.
High cholesterol. It is well known that high protein diets (consisting of red meat, whole dairy products, and other high fat foods) are linked to high cholesterol. Studies have linked high cholesterol levels to an increased risk of developing heart disease, stroke and cancer.
Osteoporosis and kidney stones. High protein diets have also been shown to cause people to excrete more calcium than normal through their urine. Over a prolonged period of time, this can increase a person's risk of osteoporosis and kidney stones.
Cancer. One of the reasons high protein diets increase the risks of certain health problems is because of the avoidance of carbohydrate-containing foods and the vitamins, minerals, fiber and anti-oxidants they contain. It is therefore important to obtain your protein from a diet rich in whole grains, fruits and vegetables. Not only are your needs for protein being met, but you are also helping to reduce your risk of developing cancer.
Unhealthy metabolic state (ketosis). Low carb diets can cause your body to go into a dangerous metabolic state called ketosis since your body burns fat instead of glucose for energy. During ketosis, the body forms substances known as ketones, which can cause organs to fail and result in gout, kidney stones, or kidney failure. Ketones can also dull a person's appetite, cause nausea and bad breath. Ketosis can be prevented by eating at least 100 grams of carbohydrates a day.0 -
The body needs both fat and carbs. Carbs are energy. I used to live on 20 carbs a day and I lost weight but I spent the day in the hospital because the lack of carbs had made my blood sugar drop dangerously low. Any diet that eliminates or extremely restricts certain foods is a bad idea. You may end up having more health problems then you anticipate. The key is to make healthy choices, eat a balanced diet and exercise. I have lost over 100 pounds but the biggest mistake I made was doing a low carb diet. Now I am losing weight the healthy way, I have more energy and I am eating real food.
There is nothing unhealthy about a low carb diet..................I eat less than 20 carbs per day and I have more energy than I have had in a very long time.............
The lack of carbs doesn't make your blood sugar too low, it is the not eating enough. You can't starve your body and expect it to be healthy.............
Low carb diets do alter the levels of blood sugar. My mom is diabetic and has to eat a reduced carb dieat for the sole purpose of leveling out her blood sugar. How ever for a person with low blood sugar It can cause a drop in blood sugar most of the time this levels out on its own. Even on a diabetic diet my mom has to eat at least 100 carbs to maintain normal body functions. Low carb diet may work for some people and that person may never have any health problems with it but there are risks. Expecially if a person is not eating a balanced diet.
Your Health May Suffer
If you’re overweight or obese, and you have insulin resistance—and especially if you have prediabetes or diabetes—cutting way back on carbohydrates can have immediate health benefits. Your blood sugar and insulin levels will go down, your triglycerides and blood pressure may fall, and your levels of “good” HDL cholesterol may rise.
But the low-carb diet will also wreak some havoc. When your body breaks down lean body mass—muscle—for energy, your metabolism slows because muscle tissue burns up a lot of calories. This may be one reason that the weight often comes back after you’ve been shunning carbs for a while.
I found this on www.rd.com. If a person choses to do a low carb diet that is a personal choice. My advice would be to talk to a heath care provider first and be aware of some of the risks.0 -
This statement "But the low-carb diet will also wreak some havoc. When your body breaks down lean body mass—muscle—for energy, your metabolism slows because muscle tissue burns up a lot of calories. This may be one reason that the weight often comes back after you’ve been shunning carbs for a while" does not depict a low carb diet, but depicts typical starvation mode. Please check sources before posting this.
The problem is that most are simply ignoring the fact that excessive carbohydrate IS STORED AS FAT. Carbohydrate heavy foods and sugar DO produce an insulin response and continuing this again and again over time does have repercussion.
So controlling the insulin response wreaked havoc on your body? I'm sorry but I don't believe that and time and time again we can easily show that controlling blood sugar levels is performed through reducing carbohydrate intake. If you have difficulty, you probably reduced your carb intake too low. Yes, our body does need carbohydrate, but it doesn't need the typical recommended 150+ gram load.
What typically goes wrong with popular low carb diets are two things:
1. Too much carb limitation over too long a period of time OR binges on carbohydrate rich foods
2. Too much protein and not enough dietary fat, producing an acidic response in the body
3. KETOACIDOSIS (not to be confused with a state of KETOSIS which is not the health danger popular medical media turns it into)
4. Not enough emphasis on WHOLE, REAL foods. Unfortunately popular connotation of low carb dieting somehow manages to include "fake" foods like sugar alcohols and modified bread products.
Popular opinion of limiting carbohydrate intake to less than 150 grams per day is typically misguided by the conventional wisdom that we require excessive carbohydrate to function. The issue is this - the average American does not require excessive carbohydrate as they do not require it for their energy demands. Those who do require it will consume it to enhance athletic performance or cycle carbohydrate intake depending on activity demands.
Please folks, read your sources before posting.0 -
Also, and to not sound like a complete beeyotch as I just did in my last post, I implore anyone interested in the low carb / high carb debate to read Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories." It goes into much better detail than I can as to how our body functions, controls insulin, and the general psychology behind today's standard diet advice (conventional diet advice) of doctors.
It's a challenging read, but it's the main driver for my passion in arguing "conventional diet wisdom."0 -
Popular opinion of limiting carbohydrate intake to less than 150 grams per day is typically misguided by the conventional wisdom that we require excessive carbohydrate to function. The issue is this - the average American does not require excessive carbohydrate as they do not require it for their energy demands. Those who do require it will consume it to enhance athletic performance or cycle carbohydrate intake depending on activity demands.
Please folks, read your sources before posting.
I agree with this whole heartedly^^^^...I always thought that the carb intake they say is recommended is pretty High...on avg I eat about 60-80 carbs and 40-60 of them are from fresh fruits and veggies0 -
Popular opinion of limiting carbohydrate intake to less than 150 grams per day is typically misguided by the conventional wisdom that we require excessive carbohydrate to function. The issue is this - the average American does not require excessive carbohydrate as they do not require it for their energy demands. Those who do require it will consume it to enhance athletic performance or cycle carbohydrate intake depending on activity demands.
Please folks, read your sources before posting.
I agree with this whole heartedly^^^^...I always thought that the carb intake they say is recommended is pretty High...on avg I eat about 60-80 carbs and 40-60 of them are from fresh fruits and veggies
Exactly. And if it's a day where you're more active or are requiring more carbs, you eat them. I'm the same way. Sometimes I eat very low, sometimes as high as 120g.0 -
i wish i could say i need a higher carb day...lol unfortunately i havent been very active :indifferent:
Popular opinion of limiting carbohydrate intake to less than 150 grams per day is typically misguided by the conventional wisdom that we require excessive carbohydrate to function. The issue is this - the average American does not require excessive carbohydrate as they do not require it for their energy demands. Those who do require it will consume it to enhance athletic performance or cycle carbohydrate intake depending on activity demands.
Please folks, read your sources before posting.
I agree with this whole heartedly^^^^...I always thought that the carb intake they say is recommended is pretty High...on avg I eat about 60-80 carbs and 40-60 of them are from fresh fruits and veggies
Exactly. And if it's a day where you're more active or are requiring more carbs, you eat them. I'm the same way. Sometimes I eat very low, sometimes as high as 120g.0 -
Also, and to not sound like a complete beeyotch as I just did in my last post, I implore anyone interested in the low carb / high carb debate to read Gary Taubes' "Good Calories, Bad Calories." It goes into much better detail than I can as to how our body functions, controls insulin, and the general psychology behind today's standard diet advice (conventional diet advice) of doctors.
It's a challenging read, but it's the main driver for my passion in arguing "conventional diet wisdom."
Why is Gary Taube a better resource than rd.com? Thanks.
And I agree, if you're active, you need carbs.0 -
I have an extensive background in women's fitness and nutrition. While you may choose to overlook the risks of low carb dieting that does not mean the diet is healthy. These are not my opinion they are facts. The only information I use is from one- my training in healthy weightloss for women Two- Liturature from medical professionals. and Three- Liturature from medical sites such as Web Md. The truth is any fad diet is a bad idea. Agree with me or dont I dont care. I am just giving some medical facts about the diet.0
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you have nothing better to do?0
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who want to be my friend??? i looking for you0
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Have you ever read GCBC?
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I have an extensive background in women's fitness and nutrition. While you may choose to overlook the risks of low carb dieting that does not mean the diet is healthy. These are not my opinion they are facts. The only information I use is from one- my training in healthy weightloss for women Two- Liturature from medical professionals. and Three- Liturature from medical sites such as Web Md. The truth is any fad diet is a bad idea. Agree with me or dont I dont care. I am just giving some medical facts about the diet.
If you'd like to argue semantics and medical information, I too have spent the last 5 years of my adult life researching nutrition, and am an avid lifter.
Read my post history on here. I'm not presenting "diet fad" information regarding low carbohydrate eating plans. Even a person on Atkins will not stay at 20g carb for an extended period of time and that's certainly not recommended for those who are active.
As I said before, carbohydrate intake varies by activity and by person, but I believe many people's daily perceived carb demands are overstated.
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I am not saying that you are wrong. I am arguing against a no carb or heavily restricted low carb diet. I am not saying to go out and eat 300 carbs a day. The most important thing is to eat a balanced diet not eliminating any food type but just making healthier choices. I myself eat 100 to 150 carbs a day. I make sure they are good carbs. That is what works for me. Do I think it is healthy to eat a no carb diet for a long period of time no. And that is what my posts have been about. Extremely restrictive or no carb diets. I see what you are saying but I think we are talking about two different diets. I think you are talking about a balanced diet or carb reduced diet which I agree with you is beneficial. I was talking about diets that completely eliminate carbohydrates from a diet. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. The funny thing is I agree with the type of diet you are talking about I was just refering to the more extreme diets. I did read some of the articles from Gary Taubes he is a smart man. I like that he advocates dieting in healthy balanced way.0
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I am not saying that you are wrong. I am arguing against a no carb or heavily restricted low carb diet. I am not saying to go out and eat 300 carbs a day. The most important thing is to eat a balanced diet not eliminating any food type but just making healthier choices. I myself eat 100 to 150 carbs a day. I make sure they are good carbs. That is what works for me. Do I think it is healthy to eat a no carb diet for a long period of time no. And that is what my posts have been about. Extremely restrictive or no carb diets. I see what you are saying but I think we are talking about two different diets. I think you are talking about a balanced diet or carb reduced diet which I agree with you is beneficial. I was talking about diets that completely eliminate carbohydrates from a diet. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. The funny thing is I agree with the type of diet you are talking about I was just refering to the more extreme diets. I did read some of the articles from Gary Taubes he is a smart man. I like that he advocates dieting in healthy balanced way.
Yeah it's cool, I think I jumped the gun at your post a bit yesterday. I think I need to clarify at times that I'm not advocating a zero carb diet.
Funny enough, a lot of stringent followers of Taubes DO advocate a zero or very low carb diet. I tried it for a couple days, but definitely not for me. Some with other health problems swear by it, so eh, if it works and helps them, good on them I suppose.0 -
now zero carbs....does that mean no fruits and veggies?...or do they not count natural carbs?...because i could never live without my fruits and veggies lolI am not saying that you are wrong. I am arguing against a no carb or heavily restricted low carb diet. I am not saying to go out and eat 300 carbs a day. The most important thing is to eat a balanced diet not eliminating any food type but just making healthier choices. I myself eat 100 to 150 carbs a day. I make sure they are good carbs. That is what works for me. Do I think it is healthy to eat a no carb diet for a long period of time no. And that is what my posts have been about. Extremely restrictive or no carb diets. I see what you are saying but I think we are talking about two different diets. I think you are talking about a balanced diet or carb reduced diet which I agree with you is beneficial. I was talking about diets that completely eliminate carbohydrates from a diet. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. The funny thing is I agree with the type of diet you are talking about I was just refering to the more extreme diets. I did read some of the articles from Gary Taubes he is a smart man. I like that he advocates dieting in healthy balanced way.
Yeah it's cool, I think I jumped the gun at your post a bit yesterday. I think I need to clarify at times that I'm not advocating a zero carb diet.
Funny enough, a lot of stringent followers of Taubes DO advocate a zero or very low carb diet. I tried it for a couple days, but definitely not for me. Some with other health problems swear by it, so eh, if it works and helps them, good on them I suppose.0 -
now zero carbs....does that mean no fruits and veggies?...or do they not count natural carbs?...because i could never live without my fruits and veggies lolI am not saying that you are wrong. I am arguing against a no carb or heavily restricted low carb diet. I am not saying to go out and eat 300 carbs a day. The most important thing is to eat a balanced diet not eliminating any food type but just making healthier choices. I myself eat 100 to 150 carbs a day. I make sure they are good carbs. That is what works for me. Do I think it is healthy to eat a no carb diet for a long period of time no. And that is what my posts have been about. Extremely restrictive or no carb diets. I see what you are saying but I think we are talking about two different diets. I think you are talking about a balanced diet or carb reduced diet which I agree with you is beneficial. I was talking about diets that completely eliminate carbohydrates from a diet. I am sorry for the misunderstanding. The funny thing is I agree with the type of diet you are talking about I was just refering to the more extreme diets. I did read some of the articles from Gary Taubes he is a smart man. I like that he advocates dieting in healthy balanced way.
Yeah it's cool, I think I jumped the gun at your post a bit yesterday. I think I need to clarify at times that I'm not advocating a zero carb diet.
Funny enough, a lot of stringent followers of Taubes DO advocate a zero or very low carb diet. I tried it for a couple days, but definitely not for me. Some with other health problems swear by it, so eh, if it works and helps them, good on them I suppose.
It's about a 90-95% meat diet, emphasizing fatty cuts of meat.
Definitely not appealing and just...ugh...no variety, difficult to sustain, etc.0 -
What Are the Health Risks Associated With High Protein, Low Carb Diets?
High protein diets can cause a number of health problems, including:
Kidney failure. Consuming too much protein puts a strain on the kidneys, which can make a person susceptible to kidney disease.
High cholesterol. It is well known that high protein diets (consisting of red meat, whole dairy products, and other high fat foods) are linked to high cholesterol. Studies have linked high cholesterol levels to an increased risk of developing heart disease, stroke and cancer.
Osteoporosis and kidney stones. High protein diets have also been shown to cause people to excrete more calcium than normal through their urine. Over a prolonged period of time, this can increase a person's risk of osteoporosis and kidney stones.
Cancer. One of the reasons high protein diets increase the risks of certain health problems is because of the avoidance of carbohydrate-containing foods and the vitamins, minerals, fiber and anti-oxidants they contain. It is therefore important to obtain your protein from a diet rich in whole grains, fruits and vegetables. Not only are your needs for protein being met, but you are also helping to reduce your risk of developing cancer.
Unhealthy metabolic state (ketosis). Low carb diets can cause your body to go into a dangerous metabolic state called ketosis since your body burns fat instead of glucose for energy. During ketosis, the body forms substances known as ketones, which can cause organs to fail and result in gout, kidney stones, or kidney failure. Ketones can also dull a person's appetite, cause nausea and bad breath. Ketosis can be prevented by eating at least 100 grams of carbohydrates a day.
Every single one of these accusations are fallacies. I sit here shaking my head at how the Big Pharma, doctors and the government have people thinking that eating higher fat from natural sources, moderate protein and fresh vegetables and fruits, nuts and seed can possibly be unhealthy.
If that is the case, then the homeopathic and naturalistic doctors are really killing people telling them to consume an all natural diet consisting of the above mentioned foods.........
And another funny thing is, cancer feeds off sugar, so it is unlikely that someone eating natural, organic foods will develop cancer.
Ketosis is not an unhealthy metabolic state either............I am sitting here LMAO at that statement.0
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