How much is too much cardio when trying to build muscles?

Jynus

you can honestly do however much cardio you want so long as you eat to support your activity levels. there's going to be an impact in terms of how strong you may feel in the gym, e.g., running hills kills lower body days for me, but it's just something your body has to grow accustomed to.

This statement is as false as false can be. I do hope no one takes this advice. I'm sure he meant well, but it's just plain wrong.

Looks like it's really holding him back:


squat: 500x20
deadlift: 500x20
bench: 315x20
ohp: 315x1
chins: bw + 100x10
dips bw + 200x10
curls: 185x10
c&j: 315x10

Look a little more closely--those are his GOALS, not his stats.

no i've actually reached all my goals. :laugh:

i guess i should have put a caveat with what i said - "don't be an idiot." training for a marathon and preparing for a bodybuilding show at the same time prolly won't work. doing conditioning work, even several hours a week, will not hold you back from getting bigger or stronger so long as you eat enough.

i don't understand how people who say weight is a matter of 'calories in/calories out' can actually argue that any reasonable amount - short of preparing for multiple-hour-long events - of sustained effort or interval training can make a difference other than needing to get more calories in.

LOL, no you did not. You can count the people on earth on 1 hand who have accomplished even 2 of these goals. Noone has done all of them.

http://youtu.be/DjtVvYk1HWw

the reason everyone is cheering is because it's almost unheard of to see this, and this is at a powerlifting meet.

DavPul

you can honestly do however much cardio you want so long as you eat to support your activity levels. there's going to be an impact in terms of how strong you may feel in the gym, e.g., running hills kills lower body days for me, but it's just something your body has to grow accustomed to.

This statement is as false as false can be. I do hope no one takes this advice. I'm sure he meant well, but it's just plain wrong.

Looks like it's really holding him back:


squat: 500x20
deadlift: 500x20
bench: 315x20
ohp: 315x1
chins: bw + 100x10
dips bw + 200x10
curls: 185x10
c&j: 315x10

Look a little more closely--those are his GOALS, not his stats.

no i've actually reached all my goals. :laugh:

i guess i should have put a caveat with what i said - "don't be an idiot." training for a marathon and preparing for a bodybuilding show at the same time prolly won't work. doing conditioning work, even several hours a week, will not hold you back from getting bigger or stronger so long as you eat enough.

i don't understand how people who say weight is a matter of 'calories in/calories out' can actually argue that any reasonable amount - short of preparing for multiple-hour-long events - of sustained effort or interval training can make a difference other than needing to get more calories in.

LOL, no you did not. You can count the people on earth on 1 hand who have accomplished even 2 of these goals. Noone has done all of them.

http://youtu.be/DjtVvYk1HWw

the reason everyone is cheering is because it's almost unheard of to see this, and this is at a powerlifting meet.

And that's Platz, who readers of M&F that are my age will remember as being plastered all over the mags as having the biggest, strongest legs in the community. They were like California redwoods.

I wasn't trying to disparage the guy that posted that comment or hijack the thread. Just wanted to make sure people knew that one particular point he made was incorrect. Cardo directly effects the bodies ability to build muscle, and will affect it even if you eat a large surplus. Even if you don't believe that, why make yourself eat more food for no reason? Burn 500 cals just to make yourself eat 500 extra cal at the end of the day?

Way back in the day (Platz's day!), someone trying to build muscle would have been given three commands. Lift. Eat. Sit.

meerkat70

you can honestly do however much cardio you want so long as you eat to support your activity levels. there's going to be an impact in terms of how strong you may feel in the gym, e.g., running hills kills lower body days for me, but it's just something your body has to grow accustomed to.

This statement is as false as false can be. I do hope no one takes this advice. I'm sure he meant well, but it's just plain wrong.

Looks like it's really holding him back:


squat: 500x20
deadlift: 500x20
bench: 315x20
ohp: 315x1
chins: bw + 100x10
dips bw + 200x10
curls: 185x10
c&j: 315x10

Look a little more closely--those are his GOALS, not his stats.

no i've actually reached all my goals. :laugh:

i guess i should have put a caveat with what i said - "don't be an idiot." training for a marathon and preparing for a bodybuilding show at the same time prolly won't work. doing conditioning work, even several hours a week, will not hold you back from getting bigger or stronger so long as you eat enough.

i don't understand how people who say weight is a matter of 'calories in/calories out' can actually argue that any reasonable amount - short of preparing for multiple-hour-long events - of sustained effort or interval training can make a difference other than needing to get more calories in.

LOL, no you did not. You can count the people on earth on 1 hand who have accomplished even 2 of these goals. Noone has done all of them.

http://youtu.be/DjtVvYk1HWw

the reason everyone is cheering is because it's almost unheard of to see this, and this is at a powerlifting meet.

And that's Platz, who readers of M&F that are my age will remember as being plastered all over the mags as having the biggest, strongest legs in the community. They were like California redwoods.

I wasn't trying to disparage the guy that posted that comment or hijack the thread. Just wanted to make sure people knew that one particular point he made was incorrect. Cardo directly effects the bodies ability to build muscle, and will affect it even if you eat a large surplus. Even if you don't believe that, why make yourself eat more food for no reason? Burn 500 cals just to make yourself eat 500 extra cal at the end of the day?

Way back in the day (Platz's day!), someone trying to build muscle would have been given three commands. Lift. Eat. Sit.

Maybe you could try working on the *way* you tell people you disagree with them? Your habit of telling everyone who doesn't hold *your* world view that they're 'wrong' is quite irksome. And yes, it does sound disparaging. If that's not the effect you're after, perhaps you could actually *take* the feedback you're offered on that one.