pepper spray

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  • liss125
    liss125 Posts: 77
    Use a gentle leader on her. We have a cane corso who was terrible on lead and I used a gentle leader on him and it worked wonderfully. If she pulls it will pull her head back around to you. As long as you stay on her and are consistent about her behavior she will get it. She may even get to the point where she doesn't care about other dogs because she is so tired.

    P.S. pibbles are the best :)

    Gentle leaders are very helpful. I use one for my dog as well. Sometimes they don't work well for dogs with a shorter muzzle.
  • jeffrodgers1
    jeffrodgers1 Posts: 991 Member
    I think you are better off being aware of your surroundings and avoiding the situation altogether. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Besides weapons have a way of being turned on their owners.

    A couple of tips which we offer in our Running Clinics

    1. People will basically attack you for three reasons...Most assailants are after money. Carry what is called throw away money. A handful of cash you can fling in your assailants face which will dissorient and allow you to create distance. If they are after money... they'll go for the cash. Beyond money, the assailand is either trying to hurt or rape you.

    2. Be aware of your environment and let others know where you are going and when you will be back. Avoid dangerous situations (i.e. don't run in alleyways at night) and allow your natural senses to work (can you see/hear people around you?)

    3. Instinct is the most important tool we have to keep safe. If something doesn't feel right, chances are it isn't. Listen to your instincts.

    4. Eye contact. You can often determine an individuals intentions via eye contact. It is also a deterrent as it shows confidence and reduces the element of surprise.

    5. Use the buddy system. If someone is looking for trouble, they usually will pick on individuals rather than pairs. Especially if your buddy is Chuck Norris.

    6. Avoid carrying items that may make you a target. (i.e. that new IPhone that you are so intently listening too... Thieves like those too (especially when your attention is on it and not your environment.)

    7. If you are attacked... You have a right to defend yourself. Yell "No" loudly and continue to yell. Make as much noise as possible. Create an exit for yourself by attacking pressure points (knees, groin, armpits, throat, eyes, ears). Don't make it easy.

    8. If you still cannot escape, make as much noise as possible and create as undesirable a situation for your assailant. Not my idea, but one of my students suggested that soiling yourself would derail a rapist quickly.

    Its the middle of the afternoon... I could likely post more, but would still caution against carrying a weapon. Yes, its easy on paper to say how we'd blow someone apart with a 357 or beat them with a baton... the truth is that more people are harmed by their own weapons than those belonging to a criminal.
  • ki4yxo
    ki4yxo Posts: 709 Member
    If I had to carry, it would be a .357. I think OC a .357
    would keep the crazies away.

    .357 beats the hell out of your hands (assuming you're using .357 magnum rounds and not .38 specials). Go with a .45ACP; lower velocity round, nice gentle recoil. :laugh:

    Agreed on the kick of a .357. Tough to bring it back down quick enough to get off another round accurately if you need to (for us ladies, that is).

    That said, I prefer the simplicity of a revolver for self-defense. Less to malfunction in the heat of the moment.

    No, I don't carry pepper-spray. But I always recommend that you carry SOMETHING. Better safe than sorry is my thinking...



    The .357 is a revolver, but is heavy as hell. Not
    too bad of a kick because of the weight. Also not
    ideal to go running with, unless you strap a brick
    to the left hand side of your waist to even out the
    weight. Ok, maybe 2 bricks. LOL
    I use the local gym, so I'm not too worried about it.




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  • NikkiSixGuns
    NikkiSixGuns Posts: 630 Member
    If I had to carry, it would be a .357. I think OC a .357
    would keep the crazies away.

    .357 beats the hell out of your hands (assuming you're using .357 magnum rounds and not .38 specials). Go with a .45ACP; lower velocity round, nice gentle recoil. :laugh:

    Agreed on the kick of a .357. Tough to bring it back down quick enough to get off another round accurately if you need to (for us ladies, that is).

    That said, I prefer the simplicity of a revolver for self-defense. Less to malfunction in the heat of the moment.

    No, I don't carry pepper-spray. But I always recommend that you carry SOMETHING. Better safe than sorry is my thinking...



    The .357 is a revolver, but is heavy as hell. Not
    too bad of a kick because of the weight. Also not
    ideal to go running with, unless you strap a brick
    to the left hand side of your waist to even out the
    weight. Ok, maybe 2 bricks. LOL
    I use the local gym, so I'm not too worried about it.


    Yes, I'm aware that a .357 is a revolver... Thus my clarification that even though it kicks I'd still rather carry it (a revolver) than a .45 ACP.

    My .357 of choice is a Ruger 4" barrel. Not as heavy as the 6" (which still kicks like a mother, in my opinion) and fits in more places, but has even more of a kick. Just my 2 cents.
  • dlwyatt82
    dlwyatt82 Posts: 1,077 Member
    Its the middle of the afternoon... I could likely post more, but would still caution against carrying a weapon. Yes, its easy on paper to say how we'd blow someone apart with a 357 or beat them with a baton... the truth is that more people are harmed by their own weapons than those belonging to a criminal.

    You'd rather rely on crapping your pants than on being armed and prepared for the attack? It's not as simple as just getting a gun and throwing it in a purse... there is a lot of physical and mental training that goes into being ready to defend yourself (and much of it is spent conditioning yourself to know when NOT to go for the weapon). Done properly, it's much like training in a martial art, except you eliminate the disparity of force entirely. A 90-pound, 5' woman is fully able to fend off someone of my size and weight (or greater), and that is a valuable thing.
  • Il_DaniD_lI
    Il_DaniD_lI Posts: 1,593 Member
    I carry dog mace. I wish a mother f*cker would.
  • MostlyWater
    MostlyWater Posts: 4,294 Member
    i do. you can't be too careful.
  • phoenix_59
    phoenix_59 Posts: 1,123
    the mace works...I was sprayed by a drunk mailman...it was brutal..that's all you will need....
  • maddymama
    maddymama Posts: 1,183 Member
    I carry dog mace on my runs. This is after being bitten by one dog when running before. I have recently had to use the dog spray on a dog that was charging me.... and I have never been more thankful to have it.
  • I always have it on me and unfortunately have had to use it multiple time. Trust me, it's better to be safe than sorry! All the times I used it the attackers had no intentions of 'bringing me back safely'..... So I make an effort of having it with me at all times.
  • SweetxCatastrophe
    SweetxCatastrophe Posts: 593 Member
    I carry bear strength pepper spray because I live in a pretty nature filled area... It's pretty common for me to take my dog for a walk and encounter coyotes taking themselves for walks in the other direction. I also have a bobcat that lives in my backyard. So yeah..necessary

    Sadly I have to carry it to work too because I'm more afraid of the people I might encounter outside my building than the wildlife around my house. I work in a reaaaallllly bad area :/
  • dlwyatt82
    dlwyatt82 Posts: 1,077 Member
    I carry bear strength pepper spray because I live in a pretty nature filled area... It's pretty common for me to take my dog for a walk and encounter coyotes taking themselves for walks in the other direction. I also have a bobcat that lives in my backyard. So yeah..necessary

    Sadly I have to carry it to work too because I'm more afraid of the people I might encounter outside my building than the wildlife around my house. I work in a reaaaallllly bad area :/

    Reminds me of a joke I heard when I was a kid:
    The National Park Rangers are advising hikers in Glacier National Park and other Rocky Mountain parks to be alert for bears and take extra precautions to avoid an encounter.
    They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. The bell noise allows bears to hear them coming from a distance and not be startled by a hiker accidentally sneaking up on them. This might cause a bear to charge.
    Visitors should also carry a pepper spray can just in case a bear is encountered. Spraying the pepper into the air will irritate the bear's sensitive nose and it will run away.
    It is also a good idea to keep an eye out for fresh bear scat so you have an idea if bears are in the area. People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear scat.
    Black bear droppings are smaller and often contain berries, leaves, and possibly bits of fur. Grizzly bear droppings tend to contain small bells and smell of pepper.
  • SweetxCatastrophe
    SweetxCatastrophe Posts: 593 Member
    Lol love it! I hike a mountain nearby a couple times a year and like 8 out of 10 times there is a baby black bear just chillin on the trail. I'm pretty sure the momma bear puts the baby there as bait to lure in unsuspecting tasty hikers
  • artbkward
    artbkward Posts: 238 Member
    On my usual path through the neighborhood, I don't carry pepper spray. There is a lot of people around walking dogs, pushing strollers etc so I'm not worried there.

    If I venture to an unknown park or path, I do take my pepper spray. While running, I've been bitten by a dog (granted, a Chihuahua) but if a bigger dog/animal would come after me, I would use on them as well as an attacker.

    What baffles me is the amount of people that run outside with headphones. How easy it is for someone to come up behind you when you can't hear them?!
  • liss125
    liss125 Posts: 77
    On my usual path through the neighborhood, I don't carry pepper spray. There is a lot of people around walking dogs, pushing strollers etc so I'm not worried there.

    If I venture to an unknown park or path, I do take my pepper spray. While running, I've been bitten by a dog (granted, a Chihuahua) but if a bigger dog/animal would come after me, I would use on them as well as an attacker.

    What baffles me is the amount of people that run outside with headphones. How easy it is for someone to come up behind you when you can't hear them?!

    Guilty! Music keeps my morale up. I do often think of the dangers. Though I lean on the knowledge that my dog would likely go berserk if anyone approached me; causing a huge scene, hopefully :)
  • moreno89
    moreno89 Posts: 210 Member
    I carry dog mace. I wish a mother f*cker would.




    hahaha you're cray cray
  • moreno89
    moreno89 Posts: 210 Member
    I carry bear strength pepper spray because I live in a pretty nature filled area... It's pretty common for me to take my dog for a walk and encounter coyotes taking themselves for walks in the other direction. I also have a bobcat that lives in my backyard. So yeah..necessary

    Sadly I have to carry it to work too because I'm more afraid of the people I might encounter outside my building than the wildlife around my house. I work in a reaaaallllly bad area :/

    Reminds me of a joke I heard when I was a kid:
    The National Park Rangers are advising hikers in Glacier National Park and other Rocky Mountain parks to be alert for bears and take extra precautions to avoid an encounter.
    They advise park visitors to wear little bells on their clothes so they make noise when hiking. The bell noise allows bears to hear them coming from a distance and not be startled by a hiker accidentally sneaking up on them. This might cause a bear to charge.
    Visitors should also carry a pepper spray can just in case a bear is encountered. Spraying the pepper into the air will irritate the bear's sensitive nose and it will run away.
    It is also a good idea to keep an eye out for fresh bear scat so you have an idea if bears are in the area. People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear scat.
    Black bear droppings are smaller and often contain berries, leaves, and possibly bits of fur. Grizzly bear droppings tend to contain small bells and smell of pepper.





    lol!
  • ki4yxo
    ki4yxo Posts: 709 Member
    If I had to carry, it would be a .357. I think OC a .357
    would keep the crazies away.

    .357 beats the hell out of your hands (assuming you're using .357 magnum rounds and not .38 specials). Go with a .45ACP; lower velocity round, nice gentle recoil. :laugh:

    Agreed on the kick of a .357. Tough to bring it back down quick enough to get off another round accurately if you need to (for us ladies, that is).

    That said, I prefer the simplicity of a revolver for self-defense. Less to malfunction in the heat of the moment.

    No, I don't carry pepper-spray. But I always recommend that you carry SOMETHING. Better safe than sorry is my thinking...



    The .357 is a revolver, but is heavy as hell. Not
    too bad of a kick because of the weight. Also not
    ideal to go running with, unless you strap a brick
    to the left hand side of your waist to even out the
    weight. Ok, maybe 2 bricks. LOL
    I use the local gym, so I'm not too worried about it.


    Yes, I'm aware that a .357 is a revolver... Thus my clarification that even though it kicks I'd still rather carry it (a revolver) than a .45 ACP.

    My .357 of choice is a Ruger 4" barrel. Not as heavy as the 6" (which still kicks like a mother, in my opinion) and fits in more places, but has even more of a kick. Just my 2 cents.

    We pretty much agree. LOL

    Except I like the S&W .357 4" barrel. (CTG. HWY Patrolman)
    The thing is really is easy to shoot with out the big recoil. :wink:
  • amberlykay1014
    amberlykay1014 Posts: 608 Member
    I absolutely carry it! You never know if a dog, rabid animal, or crazed person comes after you. Better to be safe than sorry.
  • Aleluya17
    Aleluya17 Posts: 205 Member
    I carry a spring assisted knife when i'm off base. Once I leave the gates bam! i'm in a really really bad neighborhood. Mace is great, but you only get one try, and it's not always enough to stop someone.
  • maddymama
    maddymama Posts: 1,183 Member

    What baffles me is the amount of people that run outside with headphones. How easy it is for someone to come up behind you when you can't hear them?!

    To get the best of both worlds, I wear one earphone in, and don't put the other one on. I also leave the sound level low (i.e. I can hear the car approaching sooner than my running partners do, who don't wear headphones. Don't assume that someone with a headphone on can't hear a thing.
  • not2late
    not2late Posts: 98 Member
    As a Brit reading these comments I really can't imagine what it must be like living somewhere where people are so scared of the streets, parks and countryside that you'd feel the need to carry weapons around all the time. I think I'd end up staying indoors comfort eating ;)
  • kittyhasclaws
    kittyhasclaws Posts: 446 Member
    I don't carry anything when I go out... Because I don't ever go out... Not a safe enough neighborhood... BUT hornet spray I think is a lot cheaper, very effective and has a REALLY good distance. Just a thought.
  • fatty_to_fitty
    fatty_to_fitty Posts: 544 Member
    Nope.

    I used to live in London and never carried anything.

    I've been mugged and it hasn't changed my mind.
  • ki4yxo
    ki4yxo Posts: 709 Member
    As a Brit reading these comments I really can't imagine what it must be like living somewhere where people are so scared of the streets, parks and countryside that you'd feel the need to carry weapons around all the time. I think I'd end up staying indoors comfort eating ;)



    Depends where you live. I've already been jumped
    once in my life when I was at a stop sign on my
    motorcycle. Something it me in the face, everything
    went black, then I woke up in the ER. They said
    they stole my bike and crashed it a couple of blocks
    away. They did a good job of digging what they think
    was part of a beer bottle out of my throat. I have
    almost no recollection of that night.

    Now I'm very cautious of my surroundings, and
    hate big crowds.
  • xxjacqueline
    xxjacqueline Posts: 97 Member
    I don't carry anything. I'm more worried about the animals, I have seen bears, snakes, wild turkey and deer. I'm mostly scared of the bear though! I should get some bear spray.
  • tabooski
    tabooski Posts: 89
    I don't carry pepper spray, I am packing 2 guns those. these puppies right here.

    /flex
  • myfitnessval
    myfitnessval Posts: 687 Member
    learning how to look like you could **** someone up with one wrong look is invaluable. lol no one dares mess with me because of THE LOOK. plus i get into the mindset of "i frickin DARE you to mess with me because i've had a crappy day and if you even TRY i will twist each of your balls off and feed them to you!!" before i head out for a risky trip. it keeps me on the defensive and ready for anything.
  • dsjohndrow
    dsjohndrow Posts: 1,820 Member
    I carry a .32 caliber pistol.
  • Lift_This_
    Lift_This_ Posts: 2,756 Member
    i do, but only when i am in the city at my sisters place...she lives downtown and it is not the greatest location ever.