Walmart Selling GE corn---unmarked

splashangel

Monsanto is evil. I have very strong feelings here but once I start on this subject I get really worked up. So... I'll just say, you can buy non GMO seed. I buy mine from Victory seed company. Heirloom seeds.

jmalone71

i have a garden and try to utilize farmers markets as much as possible for this reason.

on the other hand. you're not a rat. the 'studies' show how it affects rats, not humans.

Not true , read the study !!

tsh0ck

Canola seeds???? There is no such thing. Canola oil is made from Rape seeds. When this was given to sheep it caused scraple! Canola oil is not good for you at all. It means Canadian oil company. Check it out on line.

well, some call them canola seeds. but, technically, you're right. rapeseed comes from canola plants.

what you aren't right about is that it's bad for you. no studies that show any link between disease and canola oil. it also contains monounsaturated fats -- which, when used in place of saturated fat, brings down LDL levels, reducing risk of heart disease. it also contains omega-3. which, again, is good for your heart.

canola oil works really well for sauteing and baking because of it's smoke point. this means less carcinogens and free radicals being released. again. good.

and they named it canola oil because, well, who would buy rapeseed oil? and it is technically a GM product, but it wasn't done in a lab ... they worked to selectively crossbreed rapeseed plants to lower the euric acid in the oil. (the same process, by the way, was used to create things like the seedless watermelon.)

FireRox21

Some one mentioned the price factor of these foods. For most people, organic is just not financially possible. I make my boyfriend a salad everyday for his lunch at work. I would be broke if I bought only organic!!

As far as causing problems in rats, well, my biologic injectable medicine I have to take for Rheumatoid Arthritis is MADE from rat DNA so I don't think I'll have a problem :ohwell:

tsh0ck

You think the tons of round up they are using is not producing run off ? What rock have you been living under ??

no under-rock-living ... just rural living, amongst farmers and ranchers.

the way traditional pesticides were applied vs. the way roundup is different. traditional methods left LOTS of runoff of bad, bad stuff. it got to other animals. it got easily to the water. and it wasn't good for us, either. this new roundup, meanwhile, doesn't have runoff, because it goes into the soil. now, it definitely screws with the bacteria levels in the soil. it is throwing off stuff there, and they're working to figure out what that all means. but most studies have shown that roundup won't go deep enough into the soil to get into the water table.

SweetxCatastrophe

Canola seeds???? There is no such thing. Canola oil is made from Rape seeds. When this was given to sheep it caused scraple! Canola oil is not good for you at all. It means Canadian oil company. Check it out on line.

well, some call them canola seeds. but, technically, you're right. rapeseed comes from canola plants.

and they named it canola oil because, well, who would buy rapeseed oil? and it is technically a GM product, but it wasn't done in a lab ... they worked to selectively crossbreed rapeseed plants to lower the euric acid in the oil. (the same process, by the way, was used to create things like the seedless watermelon.)

There is no such thing as a canola plant -- the plant is called rapeseed. It was developed in Canada so we get the name canola, short for "Canadian oil, low acid"

Canola is created as follows: "Almost all commercial grade canola oil is then refined using hexane. Finally, the crude oil is refined using water precipitation and organic acid, "bleaching" with clay, and deodorizing using steam distillation." YUM!

phynyxfyre

Didn't know that about the smoke point or seedless watermelon! Awesome!

Also, I will definitely check into the Walmart Effect book.

drmerc

Someone should have warned me to put on my tin foil hat before coming in here

Mellie289

Canola seeds???? There is no such thing. Canola oil is made from Rape seeds. When this was given to sheep it caused scraple! Canola oil is not good for you at all. It means Canadian oil company. Check it out on line.

well, some call them canola seeds. but, technically, you're right. rapeseed comes from canola plants.

what you aren't right about is that it's bad for you. no studies that show any link between disease and canola oil. it also contains monounsaturated fats -- which, when used in place of saturated fat, brings down LDL levels, reducing risk of heart disease. it also contains omega-3. which, again, is good for your heart.

canola oil works really well for sauteing and baking because of it's smoke point. this means less carcinogens and free radicals being released. again. good.

and they named it canola oil because, well, who would buy rapeseed oil? and it is technically a GM product, but it wasn't done in a lab ... they worked to selectively crossbreed rapeseed plants to lower the euric acid in the oil. (the same process, by the way, was used to create things like the seedless watermelon.)

Yes, canola oil is safe. The idea that it's bad for you is very outdated based on varieties that are most certainly not used to produce canola oil for human consumption.

I refer to the Mayo Clinic here for a very brief answer to this question correcting this misinformation:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/canola-oil/AN01281/

phynyxfyre

Someone should have warned me to put on my tin foil hat before coming in here

Lol. No, that's called an AFDB: Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie!

elyelyse

These kinds of foods aren't labeled as such because the large companies (monsanto, etc) say there is no proof that these products are detrimental or different in any way, and that labeling them would unfairly prejudice people against them. The lobbyists have pushed for this position, and unfortunately, those of us who just want the right to make our own decisions on the matter are left in the dark.

jfan175

I like my gm corn with extra msg.

tsh0ck

Canola seeds???? There is no such thing. Canola oil is made from Rape seeds. When this was given to sheep it caused scraple! Canola oil is not good for you at all. It means Canadian oil company. Check it out on line.

well, some call them canola seeds. but, technically, you're right. rapeseed comes from canola plants.

and they named it canola oil because, well, who would buy rapeseed oil? and it is technically a GM product, but it wasn't done in a lab ... they worked to selectively crossbreed rapeseed plants to lower the euric acid in the oil. (the same process, by the way, was used to create things like the seedless watermelon.)

There is no such thing as a canola plant ...

technically, yes, there is. kind of. there wasn't 50 years ago, but it is the plant that they have created. the plant that the oil comes from is no longer rapeseed, thanks to selective breeding. rapeseed contains 55% erucic acid -- which wouldn't be edible for humans. toxic. that's why they worked to lower the acid content. and, once they got it down to about 2%, they've got their canola. so once it is at that level, it isn't really rapeseed any more. actually, if an oilseed plant doesn't have below that 2%, it can't legally be called canola.

tsh0ck

Didn't know that about the smoke point or seedless watermelon! Awesome!

fuji apples? same deal.

gramacanada

Canola seeds???? There is no such thing. Canola oil is made from Rape seeds. When this was given to sheep it caused scraple! Canola oil is not good for you at all. It means Canadian oil company. Check it out on line.

They called it Canola Oil because people objected to it being call Rape Seed Oil. It's as' good' for you as any other oil. Googling scraple now. WTHeck is that? Don't post partial explanations.

tsh0ck

yeah, I have NO idea what she is talking about. never heard of scraple. scrapple, on the other hand, is awesome. so if canola oil can magically create that? that's pretty cool. especially if it came from a sheep. since SCRAPPLE comes from the pig.

gramacanada

Canola seeds???? There is no such thing. Canola oil is made from Rape seeds. When this was given to sheep it caused scraple! Canola oil is not good for you at all. It means Canadian oil company. Check it out on line.

I just googled Scraple There is no such anything. Check your facts before posting.

RainHoward

I would like to see products more clearly labeled. Especially when they are "genetically modified" to the extent that some of the corn has been. I think many people would be outright disgusted and even outraged if they had half an idea what was in the food we eat every day or what has been done to it between harvest and dinner table.

I think the end of humanity with eventually be caused by mans arrogance and screwing with mother nature one time too many.

However, if a person wants to eat, especially in the winter months, we have very little choice. Food production is a profit based endeavor. You can't make a profit if you lose half your crop. Cows sell by the pound on the hoof, the more pounds the more money in the bank. Buying at a farmers market is all well and good until about September when they're all closed. Then what do you do?

This is why I would like to see things labeled better. I may not have a total choice but I would like to be able to choose the lesser of the evils.

maremare312

I would think that if you cared about your corn, you wouldn't be buying produce from Walmart. Just sayin'

tsh0ck

I would think that if you cared about your corn, you wouldn't be buying produce from Walmart. Just sayin'

um, walmart gets a lot of produce from local and area farmers.

RainHoward

In the early 1970s, canola was developed using traditional plant breeding techniques to significantly reduce the levels of erucic acid and glucosinolates that were found in the parent rapeseed plant. The name "Canola" is a contraction of "Canadian" and "ola", which means oil.

There is a strict internationally regulated definition of canola that differentiates it from rapeseed, based upon it having less than two percent erucic acid and less than 30 micromoles of glucosinolates. Oilseed products that do not meet this standard cannot use the term canola. High erucic acid rapeseed acreage, although still grown, is now confined to production under contract for specific industrial uses, including environmentally friendly lubricants.
http://www.canolainfo.org/canola/index.php

Another major problem with canola oil is that 80% of the acres sown are genetically modified canola, and it’s not the GMO type of product that has been developed for the benefit of the species of plant, but for the benefit of the herbicide. First introduced to Canada in 1995, genetically modified canola has become a point of controversy and contentious legal battles as Monsanto’s “Roundup Ready” herbicide allows farmers to drench both their crops and crop land with the herbicide so as to be able to kill nearby weeds (and any other green thing the herbicide touches) without killing their crop. The effects of this herbicide on the environment as well as the health of individuals who consume the products have been questioned. (Read more on pesticides and herbicides here.) Superweeds have begun to develop, and much like the overuse of antibiotics, eventually a resistance to the chemical builds up, and a more powerful one must be used. Monsanto is already working on a stronger herbicide (called SmartStax) which they hope to debut soon.
http://www.drgangemi.com/2011/07/canola-oil/

Canola was developed using traditional plant breeding techniques, so it was not developed using biotechnology. However, about 80% of the canola grown in Canada has now been modified using biotechnology to make it tolerant to some herbicides. Using these specific herbicides has reduced the amount of chemical needed for weed control in the fields.

Remember - the canola plant has been modified, not the oil. So canola oil from the herbicide tolerant plant is exactly the same safe and healthy oil as canola oil from conventional plants. The modification has been made to only one canola gene and it is a protein. Processing removes all proteins from canola oil. That means canola oil made from GM seed is conventional canola oil.
Canola was developed using traditional plant breeding techniques, so it was not developed using biotechnology. However, about 80% of the canola grown in Canada has now been modified using biotechnology to make it tolerant to some herbicides. Using these specific herbicides has reduced the amount of chemical needed for weed control in the fields.

Remember - the canola plant has been modified, not the oil. So canola oil from the herbicide tolerant plant is exactly the same safe and healthy oil as canola oil from conventional plants. The modification has been made to only one canola gene and it is a protein. Processing removes all proteins from canola oil. That means canola oil made from GM seed is conventional canola oil.

maremare312

I would think that if you cared about your corn, you wouldn't be buying produce from Walmart. Just sayin'

um, walmart gets a lot of produce from local and area farmers.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. But who the hell buys produce from Walmart?

foxyforce

most food is GE. companies don't have to label them as GE. but they can label them as organic if they want.

phynyxfyre

Found some good info on avoiding GE foods as well----> labels must say 100% organic. The "organic label without the percentage allows up to 30% of the content to be genetically engineered. Also, if the label is 4 digits, it was grown conventionally.
Good to know!

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Genetically-Modified-Foods
I am now citing my sources. Lol.

maremare312

Found some good info on avoiding GE foods as well----> labels must say 100% organic. The "organic label without the percentage allows up to 30% of the content to be genetically engineered. Also, if the label is 4 digits, it was grown conventionally.
Good to know!

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Genetically-Modified-Foods
I am now citing my sources. Lol.

Sorry, but a Wiki is never a good source for citing sources!

phynyxfyre

I would like to see products more clearly labeled. Especially when they are "genetically modified" to the extent that some of the corn has been. I think many people would be outright disgusted and even outraged if they had half an idea what was in the food we eat every day or what has been done to it between harvest and dinner table.

I think the end of humanity with eventually be caused by mans arrogance and screwing with mother nature one time too many.

However, if a person wants to eat, especially in the winter months, we have very little choice. Food production is a profit based endeavor. You can't make a profit if you lose half your crop. Cows sell by the pound on the hoof, the more pounds the more money in the bank. Buying at a farmers market is all well and good until about September when they're all closed. Then what do you do?

This is why I would like to see things labeled better. I may not have a total choice but I would like to be able to choose the lesser of the evils.

Totally agree with you on the labeling. Not everyone cans their food or processes their summer vegetables to be eaten later. And there aren't many winter gardens in cold frames either. Everyone can grow a small garden, but not everyone has the space, time, and know-how to support their whole family, even if it is just a couple of people. I think the reason I am so interested in this is because it seems like those without means and access to information have just been taken advantage of in a sense. If we cannot prove it is safe, then it shouldn't be sold.

It is kind of like pharmaceutical companies being required to do clinical trials before their medication is released for sale by the FDA. They get it wrong often enough that there are major lawsuits. If something is modified to have a chemical in it, then it should be tested stringently as well, in my opinion.

tsh0ck

I would think that if you cared about your corn, you wouldn't be buying produce from Walmart. Just sayin'

um, walmart gets a lot of produce from local and area farmers.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. But who the hell buys produce from Walmart?

I do. Many do. You seemed to imply that walmart had inferior produce, or maybe that their produce is the product of an evil corporation. It isn't.

phynyxfyre

Found some good info on avoiding GE foods as well----> labels must say 100% organic. The "organic label without the percentage allows up to 30% of the content to be genetically engineered. Also, if the label is 4 digits, it was grown conventionally.
Good to know!

http://www.wikihow.com/Avoid-Genetically-Modified-Foods
I am now citing my sources. Lol.

Sorry, but a Wiki is never a good source for citing sources!

Sigh. Guess I should have paid more attention in English class! Lol. Here you go.

http://missourifamilies.org/features/nutritionarticles/nut76.htm

anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8188.pdf

WendyTerry420

There is a difference between cross-pollination and selective cultivation and GMO. For the record, General Mills is not the only large corporation that is keeping GMO out of their products. Anheuser-Busch in St. Louis went so far as to spend money to lobby against allowing GMO grains in Missouri. It made a lot of farmers happy since farmers are the ones hurt the most. The government has given Monsanto a patent for their GMO seeds and now farmers are being fined if a seed happens to blow onto their own crops.

When people speak of how corn has been changed, it is through cross-pollination and selective cultivation. That's a far cry from injecting non-corn DNA into the seeds.

ETA: My problem with GMO is mostly that of an economic nature. Government should not be protecting a few companies to the detriment of other companies. If someone wants to eat GMO, that's their choice, but the patent system is being abused as it applies to this situation. And let's not forget that former Monsanto board members are now making the rules for the FDA.

We should not be allowing the government to be in charge of our food and health. The FDA has done more to harm our health than they have good. It is essentially a corrupt cartel with industry in charge instead of the people having the freedom to take responsibility for their own health.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Here is how you can tell if you are buying conventional, organic or GMO produce.

Here's what to look for. Look for the labels (stickers) stuck on your fruits and veggies:

•A four-digit number means it's conventionally grown.
•A five-digit number beginning with 9 means it's organic.
•A five-digit number beginning with 8 means it's GMO

The numeric system was developed by the Produce Electronic Identification Board, an affiliate of the Produce Marketing Association, a Newark, Delaware-based trade group for the produce industry. As of October 2001, the board had assigned more than 1,200 PLUs for individual produce items.

Genetically modified (GM) foods are food items that have had their DNA changed through genetic engineering. What this does is create food that is better suited to withstand environmental forces such as drought and bugs. In the US, by 2006 89% of the planted area of soybeans, 83% of cotton, and 61% maize were genetically modified varieties.[1]