BIG QUESTION ????

rob1976

"two chicks at the same time"

"Office Space" reference FTW.

baturtle

Huge pay raises for teachers, along with smaller class sizes.

vaderandbill

Read the studies after this passed in Florida - The money they spent drug testing all applicants (because they had to reimburse those that passed) was far and beyond the money they denied to the less than 2% that failed the tests. The governor directly profited from this because the drug company contracted to do the tests was one he own stock in.

Next question - Why aren't alcoholics targets of receiving assistance then? Along your line of reasoning this abuse would not stand either but there is no test for that even though alcoholism is far more common.

I just realized that you have taken a good topic and made it miserable. Congrats for the derailment.

to the OP, my apologies for being sucked in by this. As my next act as the all knowing I will forbid trolls from derailing threads.

SVCat

Assign an online identity to every person, so that they can't hide behind some alias and pretend that they have the power to say anything while hiding behind anonymity.

It bothers me to no end that people think they can say anything they want behind some alias and think there is no repercussion, yes we have freedom of speech, but own up to your thoughts and ideas. Don't hide.

akoivisto

Make drug testing essential for people on government assistance

*punches ^ in face..... ridiculous and discriminatory policy. Since when is addiction not a treatable disease? Wouldn't that money be better spent investing in treatment programs to help those people instead of punishing them, making their problems worse, and worst of all hurting the children of those families who already struggle?

I would imprison ^^ for wanting to solve a disagreement with punching someone. and all people receiving assistance would be on a "treatment plan" and when you stray from your plan then you don't get paid that week. Also, if you're a drug addict then you wouldn't be allowed a license to have children (yes, you'd need a license to reproduce!)

what about recovering drug addicts?

That is the kicker; recovering addict means they are trying; drug tests for assistance and then a voucher stating "I'm recovering" from the agency that is helping them. Give them assistance as long as they stick with it. It isn't cut and dry, but I know my share of folks that collect assistance but don't bother to do more. Nothing like $300 dollars of foodstamps on pop, candy and instant meals. *shrugs* Ah well.

Read the studies after this passed in Florida - The money they spent drug testing all applicants (because they had to reimburse those that passed) was far and beyond the money they denied to the less than 2% that failed the tests. The governor directly profited from this because the drug company contracted to do the tests was one he own stock in.

Next question - Why aren't alcoholics targets of receiving assistance then? Along your line of reasoning this abuse would not stand either but there is no test for that even though alcoholism is far more common.

I agree, there is no test outside of a constant eye; thus it is something we have little ability to control. I'd take it this way. I, myself, have $20.00, thats it to spend. Two people, complete strangers come up to me. One looks slovenly, drunkard... the other looks like a normal mom with two kids. Assumptions can be made for both based on that. Some people would say, the drunk should get your help, he has an addicition. Others would say the mom with two kids. How do I determine who would most benefit from the money? If I had a drug test and the mom posted for Heroine, do the kids then outweigh the fact she is a drug addict? *shrugs* Grey area, there is a lot of it!

akoivisto

Read the studies after this passed in Florida - The money they spent drug testing all applicants (because they had to reimburse those that passed) was far and beyond the money they denied to the less than 2% that failed the tests. The governor directly profited from this because the drug company contracted to do the tests was one he own stock in.

Next question - Why aren't alcoholics targets of receiving assistance then? Along your line of reasoning this abuse would not stand either but there is no test for that even though alcoholism is far more common.

I just realized that you have taken a good topic and made it miserable. Congrats for the derailment.

to the OP, my apologies for being sucked in by this. As my next act as the all knowing I will forbid trolls from derailing threads.

G'ah! Your right! I was sucked in like a wet noodle into a baby's mouth! *feels bad*

Ceases!

BeckaT79

Make drug testing essential for people on government assistance

AMEN! And require food stamps be for healthy foods. I cringe when I see the cart loaded with garbage.

Both of these! And putting a limit on how many children you can have while on assistance... If you can't support 1 you shouldn't be allowed to have the second while on assistance.

xMillyLouisex

Read the studies after this passed in Florida - The money they spent drug testing all applicants (because they had to reimburse those that passed) was far and beyond the money they denied to the less than 2% that failed the tests. The governor directly profited from this because the drug company contracted to do the tests was one he own stock in.

Next question - Why aren't alcoholics targets of receiving assistance then? Along your line of reasoning this abuse would not]]
stand either but there is no test for that even though alcoholism is far more common.

I just realized that you have taken a good topic and made it miserable. Congrats for the derailment.

to the OP, my apologies for being sucked in by this. As my next act as the all knowing I will forbid trolls from derailing threads.

completely agree with this dont know why some people on this site r so moody miserable and argumentative, thort this was supposed to b fun and was a good topic!

thewang

Read the studies after this passed in Florida - The money they spent drug testing all applicants (because they had to reimburse those that passed) was far and beyond the money they denied to the less than 2% that failed the tests. The governor directly profited from this because the drug company contracted to do the tests was one he own stock in.

Next question - Why aren't alcoholics targets of receiving assistance then? Along your line of reasoning this abuse would not stand either but there is no test for that even though alcoholism is far more common.

I just realized that you have taken a good topic and made it miserable. Congrats for the derailment.

to the OP, my apologies for being sucked in by this. As my next act as the all knowing I will forbid trolls from derailing threads.

Well then my answer to the big question would be to stop discrimination and force everyone to have facts to back up their opinions.

akoivisto

Make sure a mass murderer, (like the nut in the Aurora Colorado killings) does not get any publicity at all, put him in a dark room where no cameras are allowed.

I like that.

pittskaa

if everyone just sat back, chilled out and had a smoke everyone wud get on and it would be a happy harmonious world. lol

agreed! lol :drinker:

vaderandbill

I would make a free clinic to remove the sticks that clearly up some peoples' @sses today! and so it shall be!

Prahasaurus

Drug tests for CEO's of BoA? *laughs*

Financial institutions have done more damage to the US economy than social programs that assist the poor and elderly like food stamps or unemployment assistance. And the trillions of dollars that were given to the banks were used to bail out investors and upper management (most of whom are already super rich). There's your terrible socialism right there.

I'm not saying there's no waste or fraud in government programs that try to help the poor. I'm saying the waste and fraud in the financial industry is 1000 times worse. Literally. From corrupt student loan programs, from fraudulent municipal bond credit default schemes, from manipulated LIBOR rates that increased mortgage payments to you and me, etc., etc., the list goes on and on. But because people don't really understand it, and because these same financial institutions use their money to bribe public officials (er, finance their election campaigns), nothing is done.

If you want to drug test welfare recipients, go for it. It won't change anything. And no doubt the company that gets the contract will be linked to your governor. Probably his wife sits on their board, earning a fat check for doing nothing... And Goldman Sachs will issue bonds to finance the entire scheme.

--P

thewang

Going to listen to the Yeah Yeah Yeah song (which asks the same question as this post) and pretend people aren't so blind......

*Shakes head.... losing hope in our society quickly

thewang

Drug tests for CEO's of BoA? *laughs*

Financial institutions have done more damage to the US economy than social programs that assist the poor and elderly like food stamps or unemployment assistance. And the trillions of dollars that were given to the banks were used to bail out investors and upper management (most of whom are already super rich). There's your terrible socialism right there.

I'm not saying there's no waste or fraud in government programs that try to help the poor. I'm saying the waste and fraud in the financial industry is 1000 times worse. Literally. From corrupt student loan programs, from fraudulent municipal bond credit default schemes, from manipulated LIBOR rates that increased mortgage payments to you and me, etc., etc., the list goes on and on. But because people don't really understand it, and because these same financial institutions use their money to bribe public officials (er, finance their election campaigns), nothing is done.

If you want to drug test welfare recipients, go for it. It won't change anything. And no doubt the company that gets the contract will be linked to your governor. Probably his wife sits on their board, earning a fat check for doing nothing... And Goldman Sachs will issue bonds to finance the entire scheme.

--P

^Applauds!

hkevans724

I would demand that all women say what they mean and mean what they say. No more mind reading, no more guess what I'm thinking or interpret what I'm saying.

Fellas...I'm gonna need some back up on this.

I am not a fella but I will agree.. Too much mind games and drama with women and some men. People need to learn to be more honest and open about their feelings and quit playing games...

lizziebeth1028

Ban smoking!!! Sorry tobacco industry. It's a nasty habit and I'm sick of breathing in everyone's second hand smoke!

thewang

Last post -

There are numerous articles out there since the spending on this is public record.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/18/us/no-savings-found-in-florida-welfare-drug-tests.html
http://ideas.time.com/2011/08/29/drug-testing-the-poor-bad-policy-even-worse-law/

Artilces based on:

http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/11/DrugTesting/ib.shtml

This is being challenged because of unlawful search and seizure. Not every poor person is a drug addict, but this policy assumes they are. Florida's law is extra ridiculous, because if I applied and failed, I would pay for the $30 test but I get to disignate an appointee to receive the funds for my children, like my husband, or brother. I still get the money. So... this literally does nothing.

themedalist

Every child would be born to parents who love and nurture them, believe in them, give them a strong work ethic and a deep sense of compassion for others and send them off into the world with a irrepressible sense of humor.

I just described my childhood. Thanks Mom and Dad!

Crochetluvr

Ban smoking!!! Sorry tobacco industry. It's a nasty habit and I'm sick of breathing in everyone's second hand smoke!

Thats ok....they are waiting for the legalization of marijuana, anyway. :happy:

greenbox06

I would make it so that DA BEARS never lose to the PACKERS again and they make the playoffs every year. Oh and win a SB at least once every 5, got to let other teams win it.

splashangel

Visit every beautifull spot I could. All over the world. BUT. I would make everyone leave so I could have it all to my self.

redheaddee

Sex. Isn't that always the answer?

Bwahahahha! I think this was your answer to a post I wrote yesterday....although it was the correct answer then too! :drinker:

elenathegreat

Make drug testing essential for people on government assistance

*applause*

joecollins9385

Make drug testing essential for people on government assistance

*punches ^ in face..... ridiculous and discriminatory policy. Since when is addiction not a treatable disease? Wouldn't that money be better spent investing in treatment programs to help those people instead of punishing them, making their problems worse, and worst of all hurting the children of those families who already struggle?

I would imprison ^^ for wanting to solve a disagreement with punching someone. and all people receiving assistance would be on a "treatment plan" and when you stray from your plan then you don't get paid that week. Also, if you're a drug addict then you wouldn't be allowed a license to have children (yes, you'd need a license to reproduce!)

what about recovering drug addicts?

That is the kicker; recovering addict means they are trying; drug tests for assistance and then a voucher stating "I'm recovering" from the agency that is helping them. Give them assistance as long as they stick with it. It isn't cut and dry, but I know my share of folks that collect assistance but don't bother to do more. Nothing like $300 dollars of foodstamps on pop, candy and instant meals. *shrugs* Ah well.

i know a lot of people who are in recovery, myself included, who have NEVER had any type of government assistance (aside from financial aid for college), work full time, pay taxes, support families, and spend money wisely.

KodAkuraMacKyen

Improve animal rights. Enforce jail time and while I'm dreaming big, equal punishment for animal cruelty (See how much those physco's like a flame torch taken to their tail bone). Stop pet breeding until homeless pets is nothing more than a distant memory.

Edited because oops, I missed an important piece of the original post "Imagine also that all people in the world agree with anything you say and follow your opinions."

So if that was the case, there would no longer be animal cruely or homeless pets. So in that case, the first thing I would do is vaca in Scotland.

geonbaeLeilee

I would wish that people would follow directions, use critical thinking, enhance their writing skills, and do well in school.

MatthewSt71

You guys are all awesome

Tony_Brewski

Reinstate public punishments by peers.

missmayeb

Every child would be born to parents who love and nurture them, believe in them, give them a strong work ethic and a deep sense of compassion for others and send them off into the world with a irrepressible sense of humor.

I just described my childhood. Thanks Mom and Dad!

I would love this too. Trying to do the right thing for my daughter.

I would make flip flops the national footwear, ban heels at work and make every Friday go to the beach day. :drinker:

Also, I would have to say, world peace. :flowerforyou: