Cigarettes and Cardio?
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LMFAO. The way you justify your addiction with "We know its dangerous" is for lack of another word stupid. Would you play Russian Roulette? Doubtful because you know how stupid you would be to do that.
You obviously understand very little about addictions. Is an anorexic person stupid because they don't eat?
Also, my chances of dying from Russian Roulette are much great than smoking for the time being. Apples and Oranges pal.0 -
LMFAO. The way you justify your addiction with "We know its dangerous" is for lack of another word stupid. Would you play Russian Roulette? Doubtful because you know how stupid you would be to do that.
Bad analogy. A bullet is quick. Some people would rather die slowly over, say, 60 years.0 -
I smoked for 18 years,,,after seeing my mom be diagnosed with COPD and emphysema and now is on oxygen 24/7 I realised I didn't want to end up like that and have my little boy see his mommy have to stop for air....I gained about 30lbs after I stopped but now Im working on that goal...I used the pills and they worked amazing...I have zero to no willpower and I've kicked the habit for 2 1/2 years...so it can be done...it does just take that one moment when you realise ,,,,it's nasty...One major difference is those that smoke around me....I'm always like OMG did I smell like that....EEWWEE...0
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When I smoked I found it annoying when people said to stop.
Then my mother got emphysema from smoking and spent her last four years in bed staring at the ceiling on oxygen.
Then I realized my finding it annoying was nothing more than rationalizing a stupid habit.
Then I quit.
Go to the emergency room and listen to the people panicking because they can't breath because smoking has destroyed their lungs. That is your future unless you are lucky enough to die from something else first.
Ive been to the emergency room and heard people not being able to breath. . . i then heard they were diagnosed with anxiety attacks. . . . my grand mother died from lung cancer. . . . but it ake my chances. . as long as i keep myself healthy (diet and exercise) ill see where it takes me, thats why as a smoker i get tests done every year and once i hear that a test comes up positive for something i will then take the steps i want to quit (if i ever do). . .
my grandpa smoked pipes until the day he died at 93. . . he started at 12. . . .who says MY future will be like the people in the ER. no one knows *plays twilight zone music*
My grandpa was kind of the same way....he chewed tobacco for DECADES, and lived until he was 97. Never had to go to the nursing home, never got cancer, nothing like that. And I always loved him in spite of the gross spit can he had next to his chair, lol.
I've been cutting back on smoking lately because, quite frankly, cigarettes taste gross. If I don't have something to drink to wash the taste out of my mouth afterwards, I won't have one. Unless I'm having an anxiety attack. Then the taste doesn't matter.0 -
LMFAO. The way you justify your addiction with "We know its dangerous" is for lack of another word stupid. Would you play Russian Roulette? Doubtful because you know how stupid you would be to do that.
You obviously understand very little about addictions. Is an anorexic person stupid because they don't eat?
Also, my chances of dying from Russian Roulette are much great than smoking for the time being. Apples and Oranges pal.
At least we don't climb trees near overhead lines 'cuz that's really dumb!
(For anyone in their 20s, that's from a PSA in the 80s.)0 -
I smoked for almost 14 years and quit last november.
QUIT SMOKING. IT WILL KILL YOU AND THOSE AROUND YOU.
If you live in the same town as me and you are smoking anywhere near my children I promise to swear at you and tell you to kill yourself somewhere else.
It's just like loosing weight or exercising. YOU HAVE TO WANT TO. Know one can tell you to or make you. If you don't want to quit you won't.0 -
LMFAO. The way you justify your addiction with "We know its dangerous" is for lack of another word stupid. Would you play Russian Roulette? Doubtful because you know how stupid you would be to do that.
You obviously understand very little about addictions. Is an anorexic person stupid because they don't eat?
Also, my chances of dying from Russian Roulette are much great than smoking for the time being. Apples and Oranges pal.
LOL you are fast to judge me. And it appears you are to lazy to read my previous posts. I was a former smoker, I have dealt with addiction in my family with meth and alcohol. If you smoke and you justify it your are using junky logic. If you knowingly harm yourself and dont take steps to stop because you are using said junky logic "I like to smoke", "I only smoke a few", "I am not able to stop" then you are WEAK. Justify your weakness all you want. I don't care what you to kill yourself. Its your body, ruin it if you want. Lose those precious years with your grand children and family because you felt the need to smoke. You are the one who will regret the decision not me.0 -
My grandpa was kind of the same way....he chewed tobacco for DECADES, and lived until he was 97. Never had to go to the nursing home, never got cancer, nothing like that. And I always loved him in spite of the gross spit can he had next to his chair, lol.
I've been cutting back on smoking lately because, quite frankly, cigarettes taste gross. If I don't have something to drink to wash the taste out of my mouth afterwards, I won't have one. Unless I'm having an anxiety attack. Then the taste doesn't matter.
My grandpa used to grow tobacco. He smoked from when he was a kid until he was about 50, then decided to quit and just quit. He still grew it, but never smoked again. He lived to be 87. Grandma never smoked and lived to be 72. Go figure.
On my mom's side, both my grandparents smoked all their lives and had triple heart surgeries in their 60s and never made it out of their 60s. So I guess if I don't quit, then my chances are 50/50. Much better than roulette. (Russian or otherwise
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And just to be clear, taking pleasure from smoking has nothing to do with willpower.
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Well I am not trying to be an *kitten* here. All I am saying is that yeah maybe you can run further, faster, blah blah but when your are no longer young and your boy is no longer resilient your body will start to show the effects.
Yeah it is a physical addition but its more of a mental addiction. If you cant go 72 hours without smoking you are weak, Period, Justify it all you want, say whatever you need to so you feel better about yourself. Tell yourself whatever you want to make your weakness a non issue. I am not stronger or mentally tougher than you, I have control over my body and refuse to let a stupid addiction ruin my body.
Read the links I gave you, that eBook will give you a plan to stop smoking. Like I said if you plan for success you will be successful. If you dont plan, you plan to fail.
Some people are so sanctimonious.
If tobacco is not a physical addiction, then why do the people who quit with the use of a nicotine agonist or nicotine replacement gum have such better success rates?0 -
Well I am not trying to be an *kitten* here. All I am saying is that yeah maybe you can run further, faster, blah blah but when your are no longer young and your boy is no longer resilient your body will start to show the effects.
Yeah it is a physical addition but its more of a mental addiction. If you cant go 72 hours without smoking you are weak, Period, Justify it all you want, say whatever you need to so you feel better about yourself. Tell yourself whatever you want to make your weakness a non issue. I am not stronger or mentally tougher than you, I have control over my body and refuse to let a stupid addiction ruin my body.
Read the links I gave you, that eBook will give you a plan to stop smoking. Like I said if you plan for success you will be successful. If you dont plan, you plan to fail.
Some people are so sanctimonious.
If tobacco is not a physical addiction, then why do the people who quit with the use of a nicotine agonist or nicotine replacement gum have such better success rates?
Very true! The stats bear that out.
Also, it reminds me of this:
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Well I am not trying to be an *kitten* here. All I am saying is that yeah maybe you can run further, faster, blah blah but when your are no longer young and your boy is no longer resilient your body will start to show the effects.
Yeah it is a physical addition but its more of a mental addiction. If you cant go 72 hours without smoking you are weak, Period, Justify it all you want, say whatever you need to so you feel better about yourself. Tell yourself whatever you want to make your weakness a non issue. I am not stronger or mentally tougher than you, I have control over my body and refuse to let a stupid addiction ruin my body.
Read the links I gave you, that eBook will give you a plan to stop smoking. Like I said if you plan for success you will be successful. If you dont plan, you plan to fail.
Some people are so sanctimonious.
If tobacco is not a physical addiction, then why do the people who quit with the use of a nicotine agonist or nicotine replacement gum have such better success rates?
If its not more of a mental addiction then why do so many people relapse after getting the substance out of their system?0 -
Well I am not trying to be an *kitten* here. All I am saying is that yeah maybe you can run further, faster, blah blah but when your are no longer young and your boy is no longer resilient your body will start to show the effects.
Yeah it is a physical addition but its more of a mental addiction. If you cant go 72 hours without smoking you are weak, Period, Justify it all you want, say whatever you need to so you feel better about yourself. Tell yourself whatever you want to make your weakness a non issue. I am not stronger or mentally tougher than you, I have control over my body and refuse to let a stupid addiction ruin my body.
Read the links I gave you, that eBook will give you a plan to stop smoking. Like I said if you plan for success you will be successful. If you dont plan, you plan to fail.
Some people are so sanctimonious.
If tobacco is not a physical addiction, then why do the people who quit with the use of a nicotine agonist or nicotine replacement gum have such better success rates?
Very true! The stats bear that out.
Also, it reminds me of this:
I am not looking down on anyone. I find it terrible hilarious that you have the need to justify that your killing yourself doing something as crazy as smoking. Really, who truly enjoys smoking? But whatever you all must be correct, all these years of medical studies are just ridiculous.
I can promise, no I can guarantee that no one ever regrets stopping smoking. I bet you more than a few regret never stopping.0 -
they dont sedate heroin addicts in the hospital
Seventy-two hours is a long damn time. More power to the ones that can do that, but they better sedate me in a hospital setting like they would a heroin addict.
That's true. They throw them in cages to be raped by larger, stronger people. Thanks for the correction.
no they give them suboxone to help with withdrawal symptoms and meds to help them sleep and they keep a very close eye on them. i was addicted to heroin for years and that is how i got clean0 -
"i tried the electronic cigs. could not stand them. ":
You tried the wrong one. There are many different ones and some are quite good.
i tried 3 different brands as well as several flavors and didnt like any of them.0 -
they dont sedate heroin addicts in the hospital
Seventy-two hours is a long damn time. More power to the ones that can do that, but they better sedate me in a hospital setting like they would a heroin addict.
That's true. They throw them in cages to be raped by larger, stronger people. Thanks for the correction.
no they give them suboxone to help with withdrawal symptoms and meds to help them sleep and they keep a very close eye on them. i was addicted to heroin for years and that is how i got clean
You are lucky to have been able to get help without entering the system. Congratulations on getting clean!0 -
they dont sedate heroin addicts in the hospital
Seventy-two hours is a long damn time. More power to the ones that can do that, but they better sedate me in a hospital setting like they would a heroin addict.
That's true. They throw them in cages to be raped by larger, stronger people. Thanks for the correction.
no they give them suboxone to help with withdrawal symptoms and meds to help them sleep and they keep a very close eye on them. i was addicted to heroin for years and that is how i got clean
You are lucky to have been able to get help without entering the system. Congratulations on getting clean!
the system? is that a reference to jails or rehab centers? ive been to both. im lucky to be here today because of the choices i made in life0 -
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Be honest. People telling you not to smoke does not deter you. Your addiction and reliance on ciggarettes deters you from quitting. You are hooked. Don't try to blame your recluctance to quit on other people who are telling you the medically supported scientifically proven truth.
not to be rude but you dont know anything about what is going on in the minds and bodies of other people, you can share your experience and draw conclusions and advice from it but my experience can be completely different.
society as a whole and particular individuals telling me not to smoke definitely has played a role in me smoking and definitely kept me from quiting before, this is an aspect of my personality that i am aware of but that doesnt mean i am always fully in control of negative ramifications from that side of me.
i can remember one time in particular that my wife had been nagging me to quit smoking, so i decided to try and make her happy and quit, then a week or so later we had some sort of fight and I bought a pack just to spite her/get back at her for what i was mad at her for at the time.
preachy attitudes and nasty pictures make me want to smoke so i would appreciate if you kept them to yourself0 -
i can remember one time in particular that my wife had been nagging me to quit smoking, so i decided to try and make her happy and quit, then a week or so later we had some sort of fight and I bought a pack just to spite her/get back at her for what i was mad at her for at the time.
preachy attitudes and nasty pictures make me want to smoke so i would appreciate if you kept them to yourself
I did the same thing with my ex-gf, lol. Even told her I was going to buy cigarettes after I dropped her off at her house.
As for non-smokers and former smokers chiming in here, honestly, this thread is not for you. I see a lot of people posting things in other threads about people being negative and mean on here, and this is one of those cases. If you do not smoke, this thread has nothing to do with you, so move on to a different subject. Us smokers are completely aware of the health related issues with smoking, and we really don't need you pointing it out to us. Thank you.0 -
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Really, who truly enjoys smoking?
**raises hand** i enjoyed smoking a great deal and while you are right it is mental like most things in life your flippant attitude that totally writes off those who dont want to quit seems strange to me coming from a former smoker but everyone's experience is different so perhaps you have a very different perspective.
I quit more than 24 days and 7 hours ago. Skipping the last 245 cigarettes has saved me $72, and I came soooooo close to buying a pack about an hour or so ago but decided not to.
BACK to the question of the thred...
When possible, I would smoke as I walked up to the gym door, in high school I smoked right before basketball practice
For most of my 14 marathons (decent times, usually under three and a half hours) I have done I smoked at least one cigarette in the car on the way to the start line and of course I had several as soon as i possibly could after every workout, race, game etc ever, that’s the best cigarette possible, boy do I miss that post workout ritual.
RE: affect on my fitness...
I think I sleep better and have more energy when I am not smoking which of course will affect your ability to exercise and everything else in your life- plenty of studies showing that you need good sleep to lose weight no matter what the rest of your lifestyle looks like.
I am in great shape in many ways and my yearly check ups confirm this, but haven’t been able to shed the last belly fat to find the six pack that lives under neath it … There have been studies showing that smoking inhibits fat loss, no idea if this is a correlation or causation situation for me.
My last marathon was the first one where I didn’t smoke during the training, gave up for about 6 months hoping to see some improvement, and I honestly don’t think I saw any improvements in my training or performance that I could directly attribute to quitting smoking. part of why it was easy to get back up to half a pack a day after the race. It is of course hard to isolate things out and the energy level issue allowed me to better stick to my workout plan so that is kind of one step removed but still a very big affect.
All that said, if you arent ready to quit, don’t. You need to be ready and to be completely convinced that this is the right thing and what you want and what you are willing to work for, otherwise I think you should enjoy it since I hate someone who says “I am trying to quit” while they light one up. If you are one of those people who say they hate smoking then you need to quit right away, why do something you don’t like that has so many negatives associated with it? and don’t “try” to do anything. It is all up to you, you arent trying you are doing, so either do it or don’t, there is no try.
seems that there are very differing results from those who exercise a lot when smoking so it is hard to say what your results will be.
lastly, RE: quiting
I always have loved smoking. There are pro’s and con’s to smoking. Until you convince yourself that the cons outweigh the pro’s (they do of course and you know that but it doesn’t mean you are completely convinced) then you arent doing anybody any favors.
Keep reading these forums, listen to your loved ones who beg you to quit, look at your empty bank account, read that alan carr book every one raves about and it will start to click, you may still want to smoke but the cons will start winning the day and then you can and will quit smoking. May take a relapse or two for it to stick or maybe not but get to that point and you can do it.0 -
The OP did specifically ask if there were "former smokers who quit when they started exercising".As for non-smokers and former smokers chiming in here, honestly, this thread is not for you. I see a lot of people posting things in other threads about people being negative and mean on here, and this is one of those cases. If you do not smoke, this thread has nothing to do with you, so move on to a different subject. Us smokers are completely aware of the health related issues with smoking, and we really don't need you pointing it out to us. Thank you.
I do agree somewhat about the preachy attitudes, nasty pictures, etc. I also knew the risks during all of the years I was a smoker, and didn't need to be called stupid by those who never smoked or considered themselves smarter for quitting before I did!
But I also know that quitting is HARD, so I think the experience of former smokers can be helpful (as long as it keeps within what the OP was asking for - which was "to hear your personal experience, not create an anti-smoking controversy").0 -
I've smoked since I was 15, I've tried to quit several times but nerves and stress never let it stick. I still plan on quitting but right now I dont want anything to derail my progress and once I get to a comfortable spot with my weight loss or at least to a maintenance stage I will have a plan of action.
I tried to quit about 3 years ago when the Dr. said I was at the beginning stages of COPD of course then I didnt do any cardio and now I do cardio 5 or more days a week. I've cut back a good deal but still smoke 1/2 pack a day and when my asthma flares up I have to puff my inhaler. I'm also more susceptible to respiratory infections and bronchitis and dont forget about the allergies.
but first and foremost is my weight loss journey, I can only tackle one thing at a time.0 -
I can promise, no I can guarantee that no one ever regrets stopping smoking. I bet you more than a few regret never stopping.
I regret stopping smoking every time I want a cigarette. :laugh: And I will no doubt be happy that I already quit whenever I get pregnant, which is one of the main reasons I quit. (My quote: I'll already have to give up booze for 9 months, might as well be used to not having smokes either.) But as of right now, almost 3 years since my last cigarette, there are days when *not smoking* is stressful enough that I feel it outweighs the benefits of not smoking. And if I wasn't so damned cheap or picky with my brand, I'd be smoking again today. No question.0 -
Yeah well if you're in my town and you walk your kids by me while smoking and you yell at me, I'll slap you for being stupid.. Posturing on a message board. For shame.0
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Man seriously doesn't hold me back.still bench 140 kg go to the gym 5days then 5 off and have a few drinks for the days off too.still I know the thought its bad for your health always remains.i never cough nothin but I was chatting to a mate that went to a seminar where he quit were saying its worse if you don't cough cause your body isn't getting rid of it.i know I can't talk now but I'm more aware and the time will come.0
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I smoked for almost 14 years and quit last november.
QUIT SMOKING. IT WILL KILL YOU AND THOSE AROUND YOU.
If you live in the same town as me and you are smoking anywhere near my children I promise to swear at you and tell you to kill yourself somewhere else.
It's just like loosing weight or exercising. YOU HAVE TO WANT TO. Know one can tell you to or make you. If you don't want to quit you won't.
I disagree. It's what allows them to live.0 -
I quit smoking 16 months ago....I started jogging when I quit to keep me from going back to the habit. I started smoking when I was 14 (I am now 54).....and I gained 26 pounds....without even knowing it. And I am about 46 pounds overweight according to so many charts. However, I have only lost 4.5 pounds from when I went to the doctor and he told me I had high cholesterol....and said lose weight! I wear a size 16, am 5'8" and my pants are almost falling off just from losing that small amount of weight. I couldn't keep jogging when I quit last year because I was so winded. Now I exercise on a treadmill 4 times a week, sweat like crazy and I feel super super good!
My point is I think everyone should quit smoking...........but I also know that gaining 26 pounds from quitting is not healthy either. So...quit when you are ready and try not to smoke when you are strong enough to do that. Most importantly eat healthy and keep exercising:)0
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