Diet sodas?
Sara3066
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Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. 
Is there any truth to this?
Is there any truth to this? 0
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None at all. Its literally impossible to gain extra fat when your drinking something with less then one calorie per bottle.0
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The carbonation will probably bloat you but aside from that, no. I drink diet soda when I'm at work because I work in food service and the temptation to eat everything in front of me is pretty high lol so I drink a couple a night just to curb the sweet craving and fill me up a little.
Note, I only work 3 days a week, 9 hour shifts and I don't drink soda at all outside of work.0 -
I looove coke zero! You can drink the zero drinks and you won't get fat... I've heard they cause some people to crave more carbs and thats why they gain weight0
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Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
True, read more about it online. They might as well take the word "diet" out of it and just sell it as Soda. Also some of the stuff is carcinogenic and causes cancer. Coke, Pepsi, dark soda's containing caramel coloring in it and Coke has been told to start putting warning labels on the side of their products saying that it's carcinogenic. Not sure about Pepsi if they have done it already or not. I do not drink any type of soda and never have.
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Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
Diet soda is fine in moderation. If you were exceeding a full case per day I would consider scaling it back a bit, but not for weight loss reasons.0 -
There's virtually no way you can drink something with near zero calories and store fat. That said, diet soda is made of liquid, so it's not neutral to the body. If there's anything like sugar or glucose in it, that can cause an insulin spike. Among other chemicals, that would promote the storage of caloric intake as fat, but those calories would have to come from a different food. So, diet soda 'alone' shouldn't make you store any additional fat.0
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Diet soda will never be consumed by my lips..generally anything with the words "fat free, diet or light " have triple the chemicals. Might not cause weight gain but maybe more things like cancer. not trying to scare anyone but just passing it on, if your going to drink soda drink the real stuff.
I dont drink pop, but its the number one trigger in obesity..having problems lossing weight ? cut it out and see what happens
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Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
True, read more about it online. They might as well take the word "diet" out of it and just sell it as Soda. Also some of the stuff is carcinogenic and causes cancer. Coke, Pepsi, dark soda's containing caramel coloring in it and Coke has been told be start putting warning labels on the side of their products. Not sure about Pepsi if they have done it already or not. I do not drink any type of soda and never have.
Do you have any peer reviewed research that supports the above? You're making very, very bold claims here that I believe are alarmist and not true.0 -
There's virtually no way you can drink something with near zero calories and store fat. That said, diet soda is made of liquid, so it's not neutral to the body. If there's anything like sugar or glucose in it, that can cause an insulin spike. Among other chemicals, that would promote the storage of caloric intake as fat, but those calories would have to come from a different food. So, diet soda 'alone' shouldn't make you store any additional fat.
There are also conflicting studies about the effect of non nutritive sweeteners on gut hormones. I don't believe we can say with certainty that they raise insulin at this point.0 -
Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
True, read more about it online. They might as well take the word "diet" out of it and just sell it as Soda. Also some of the stuff is carcinogenic and causes cancer. Coke, Pepsi, dark soda's containing caramel coloring in it and Coke has been told be start putting warning labels on the side of their products. Not sure about Pepsi if they have done it already or not. I do not drink any type of soda and never have.
Do you have any peer reviewed research that supports the above? You're making very, very bold claims here that I believe are alarmist and not true.
Search the internet its out there. And yeah, my mom works in the medical industry in and around cancer patients and herself has cancer and her oncologist is the one that gave us the information. So yeah, I'd say I heard it correctly.0 -
I don't know but I drink one a day along with my 1-2 cups of coffee a day. The rest of the day is mostly water. I don't see any harm in 1 or 2 sodas a day.0
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Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
True, read more about it online. They might as well take the word "diet" out of it and just sell it as Soda. Also some of the stuff is carcinogenic and causes cancer. Coke, Pepsi, dark soda's containing caramel coloring in it and Coke has been told be start putting warning labels on the side of their products. Not sure about Pepsi if they have done it already or not. I do not drink any type of soda and never have.
Do you have any peer reviewed research that supports the above? You're making very, very bold claims here that I believe are alarmist and not true.
Search the internet its out there. And yeah, my mom works in the medical industry in and around cancer patients and herself has cancer and her oncologist is the one that gave us the information. So yeah, I'd say I heard it correctly.
I have done research on this and since you are the one making claims that diet soda causes cancer, you should provide evidence.
What type of cancer does it cause? What is the chemical that causes the cancer? What dosage limits are considered cancer-causing?
Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it true. If you can show actual peer reviewed research that indicates a causative link between diet soda and cancer, then we have something to go on. Until then this is alarmism.0 -
It's a non-issue for me because I don't like the taste of these sweeteners but I thought this article was more even-handed and science based than not:In summary, if you must drink a sweet beverage (or add sweetener to your coffee or tea) you are better off using a substitute for sugar than you are using sugar. But if you want to be really sure, and you want to kick the habit of needing a sweet taste, you’re probably better off avoiding substitute sweeteners altogether. If you want to be 100% safe, drink water. Just don’t make it bottled water (though that’s a whole other story). And don’t fly in airplanes or drive in cars, either.
What are the side effects of aspartame, stevia, and other sugar substitutes?
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/what-are-the-side-effects-of-aspartame-stevia-and-other-sugar-substitutes0 -
Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
True, read more about it online. They might as well take the word "diet" out of it and just sell it as Soda. Also some of the stuff is carcinogenic and causes cancer. Coke, Pepsi, dark soda's containing caramel coloring in it and Coke has been told be start putting warning labels on the side of their products. Not sure about Pepsi if they have done it already or not. I do not drink any type of soda and never have.
Do you have any peer reviewed research that supports the above? You're making very, very bold claims here that I believe are alarmist and not true.
Search the internet its out there. And yeah, my mom works in the medical industry in and around cancer patients and herself has cancer and her oncologist is the one that gave us the information. So yeah, I'd say I heard it correctly.
I have done research on this and since you are the one making claims that diet soda causes cancer, you should provide evidence.
What type of cancer does it cause? What is the chemical that causes the cancer? What dosage limits are considered cancer-causing?
Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it true. If you can show actual peer reviewed research that indicates a causative link between diet soda and cancer, then we have something to go on. Until then this is alarmism.
I told you an oncologist told me that caramel coloring is carcinogenic. I am going to listen to him VS you. If I am reading stuff from a medical site I trust it to be true. I do not know the links he showed me I was in the hospital with the doctor while reading them. No one is trying to scare anyone. Its just something I was told and read while visiting my mom and passed it along.0 -
Health concerns
In an independent study by researchers with the Framingham Heart Study in Massachusetts, soda consumption correlated with increased incidence of metabolic syndrome. Of the 9,000 males and females studied, soda drinkers were at 48% higher risk for metabolic syndrome, which involves weight gain and elevated blood sugar. No significant difference in these findings was observed between sugary sodas and diet drinks. The researchers noted that diet soda drinkers were less likely to consume healthy foods, and that drinking diet soda flavored with artificial sweeteners more than likely increases cravings for sugar-flavored sweets.[6]
A preliminary abstract presented by the University of Miami's Hannah Gardener linked daily consumption of diet soda to a 61% higher incidence of "vascular events" such as strokes and heart attacks, although Gardener acknowledged that these results could not be conclusively linked to harmful effects of diet soda itself, and may be the result of other behaviors.[7] The author stated that confirmation was required prior to drawing conclusions. These studies were published as abstracts and presented at a conference. These data and conclusions should be considered to be preliminary until published in a peer-reviewed journal.[8]
Among individuals who drink several regular sodas per day, diet soda may be a better choice, according to a website on dieting.[9] Studies have also indicated that body mass gain is an unlikely consequence of artificial sweetener consumption.[10][11]
Studies in cattle and rats suggest that artificial sweeteners cause body weight gain, theoretically because of a faulty insulin response. Rats given sweeteners have steadily increased caloric intake, increased body weight, and increased adiposity (fatness).[12] Adding saccharin to the food of calves increases their body weight as well.[13]
A study of almost 60,000 pregnant Danish women found that preterm birth was more common in women who drank diet soda than in those who drank sugar-sweetened soda. The study was not designed to establish a cause and effect relationship.[14][15]
Just a couple of the reasons not to drink diet soda dr oz has mentioned all if not many and these are conducted studies you can get the results of online from the universities or by requesting them. I wont personally be requesting them as i have no need to 0 -
I told you an oncologist told me that caramel coloring is carcinogenic. I am going to listen to him VS you. If I am reading stuff from a medical site I trust it to be true. I do not know the links he showed me I was in the hospital with the doctor while reading them. No one is trying to scare anyone. Its just something I was told and read while visiting my mom and passed it along.
And this is why dosage and context are critical when trying to make claims about toxicity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17619857
You'd need to consume an impossible amount of 4-methylimidazole (this is the chemical in the caramel coloring) to even remotely approach a carcinogenic risk.0 -
Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
True, read more about it online. They might as well take the word "diet" out of it and just sell it as Soda. Also some of the stuff is carcinogenic and causes cancer. Coke, Pepsi, dark soda's containing caramel coloring in it and Coke has been told be start putting warning labels on the side of their products. Not sure about Pepsi if they have done it already or not. I do not drink any type of soda and never have.
Do you have any peer reviewed research that supports the above? You're making very, very bold claims here that I believe are alarmist and not true.
Search the internet its out there. And yeah, my mom works in the medical industry in and around cancer patients and herself has cancer and her oncologist is the one that gave us the information. So yeah, I'd say I heard it correctly.
I have done research on this and since you are the one making claims that diet soda causes cancer, you should provide evidence.
What type of cancer does it cause? What is the chemical that causes the cancer? What dosage limits are considered cancer-causing?
Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it true. If you can show actual peer reviewed research that indicates a causative link between diet soda and cancer, then we have something to go on. Until then this is alarmism.
Do you even know what a carcinogen is? If you did then maybe you will understand.
Carcinogen feed the already existing cancer cells that live in our bodies. Antioxidants starve them. Artificial sweeteners are most definitely a carcinogen.0 -
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I thought all that antioxidant research on cancer didn't pan out and the only reason that stuff still persists is marketing? Could be wrong though, of course.Carcinogen feed the already existing cancer cells that live in our bodies. Antioxidants starve them. Artificial sweeteners are most definitely a carcinogen.
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@Megan
Those studies you linked to are pretty much useless. They might be a good place to form a hypothesis from but they're not good for much else...in my opinion of course.0 -
Carcinogen feed the already existing cancer cells that live in our bodies. Antioxidants starve them. Artificial sweeteners are most definitely a carcinogen.
Are you actually kidding me? Please tell me your a troll... :sick:0 -
Do you even know what a carcinogen is? If you did then maybe you will understand.
A carcinogen is a substance capable of causing cancer.
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I told you an oncologist told me that caramel coloring is carcinogenic. I am going to listen to him VS you. If I am reading stuff from a medical site I trust it to be true. I do not know the links he showed me I was in the hospital with the doctor while reading them. No one is trying to scare anyone. Its just something I was told and read while visiting my mom and passed it along.
And this is why dosage and context are critical when trying to make claims about toxicity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17619857
You'd need to consume an impossible amount of 4-methylimidazole (this is the chemical in the caramel coloring) to even remotely approach a carcinogenic risk.
I understand that I may of jumped the gun a little, so my apologies for that. I too have read those links myself to all the different CNN and other websites talking about this subject and I know that you need to drink something like 1000 sodas for it to take affect. I know people who blow through a case of coke weekly and they are so addicted to the stuff. My mothers oncologist told her to take any type of soda and food that has caramel coloring in it out of her diet because of the type of cancer she has, not to mention this is her third bout of cancer and that it was not even worth discussing soda and that she needs to find something else to drink. She was a Coke drinker for years and up until about 5 months ago. She's had breast cancer twice and the third cancer is metastatic breast cancer which went into her lungs. Its still breast cancer but its considered a stage four now, (terminal) because it came back 20 years later from her very first cancer which should of actually killed her and it will never go away with any amount of treatment. I'm only listing what cancer she has in case someone was wondering.0 -
It's my first and last time here. what's wrong with you people? Do you have to go online to pick a fight. your all just mean people think I'll go some place more positive. take care0
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I thought all that antioxidant research on cancer didn't pan out and the only reason that stuff still persists is marketing? Could be wrong though, of course.Carcinogen feed the already existing cancer cells that live in our bodies. Antioxidants starve them. Artificial sweeteners are most definitely a carcinogen.
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@Megan
Those studies you linked to are pretty much useless. They might be a good place to form a hypothesis from but they're not good for much else...in my opinion of course.
Thats fine i understand
i will stay away from them after taking my nutrition classes and watching life longers of "diet,sugar free and fat free" people get cancer. 0 -
I told you an oncologist told me that caramel coloring is carcinogenic. I am going to listen to him VS you. If I am reading stuff from a medical site I trust it to be true. I do not know the links he showed me I was in the hospital with the doctor while reading them. No one is trying to scare anyone. Its just something I was told and read while visiting my mom and passed it along.
And this is why dosage and context are critical when trying to make claims about toxicity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17619857
You'd need to consume an impossible amount of 4-methylimidazole (this is the chemical in the caramel coloring) to even remotely approach a carcinogenic risk.
I understand that I may of jumped the gun a little, so my apologies for that. I too have read those links myself to all the different CNN and other websites talking about this subject and I know that you need to drink something like 1000 sodas for it to take affect. I know people who blow through a case of coke weekly and they are so addicted to the stuff. My mothers oncologist told her to take any type of soda and food that has caramel coloring in it out of her diet because of the type of cancer she has, not to mention this is her third bout of cancer and that it was not even worth discussing soda and that she needs to find something else to drink. She was a Coke drinker for years and up until about 5 months ago. She's had breast cancer twice and the third cancer is metastatic breast cancer which went into her lungs. Its still breast cancer but its a stage considered a stage four because it came back 20 years later from her very first cancer which should of actually killed her and it will never go away with any amount of treatment. I'm only listing what cancer she has in case someone was wondering.
I'm sorry to hear about your mother.
My underlying point with all of this is as such, and let me be clear that I'm not making any of this personal against you:
Dietary alarmism is a plague. People become orthorexic in a hurry because they believe that if something is bad at a very high dosage, then it must be bad at a very low dosage.
EDIT: BUT, in fairness, I too jumped the gun because I've not yet researched the effect of M-4 on people who already have cancer. Sorry.
There is a very large set of people on this site who need to lose weight and become fit. A subset of that population probably drinks either regular or diet soda. These people should not fear their diet soda especially if it means that giving up that soda causes them to go off of their diet and never reach their fitness goals.
Now I'm not claiming that diet soda is the difference between success and failure, but I DO believe that the vast majority of people who are overweight or obese and trying to effect positive change, should do whatever they can do enjoy this process as much as possible. If that means drinking diet soda, then they should do so, in moderation, without fear of growing a horn or getting MS or something else unfounded.
Being obese is probably one of the biggest health risks around.
This is why I'm quick to reply to things of this nature.0 -
I told you an oncologist told me that caramel coloring is carcinogenic. I am going to listen to him VS you. If I am reading stuff from a medical site I trust it to be true. I do not know the links he showed me I was in the hospital with the doctor while reading them. No one is trying to scare anyone. Its just something I was told and read while visiting my mom and passed it along.
And this is why dosage and context are critical when trying to make claims about toxicity.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17619857
You'd need to consume an impossible amount of 4-methylimidazole (this is the chemical in the caramel coloring) to even remotely approach a carcinogenic risk.
I understand that I may of jumped the gun a little, so my apologies for that. I too have read those links myself to all the different CNN and other websites talking about this subject and I know that you need to drink something like 1000 sodas for it to take affect. I know people who blow through a case of coke weekly and they are so addicted to the stuff. My mothers oncologist told her to take any type of soda and food that has caramel coloring in it out of her diet because of the type of cancer she has, not to mention this is her third bout of cancer and that it was not even worth discussing soda and that she needs to find something else to drink. She was a Coke drinker for years and up until about 5 months ago. She's had breast cancer twice and the third cancer is metastatic breast cancer which went into her lungs. Its still breast cancer but its a stage considered a stage four because it came back 20 years later from her very first cancer which should of actually killed her and it will never go away with any amount of treatment. I'm only listing what cancer she has in case someone was wondering.
I'm sorry to hear about your mother.
My underlying point with all of this is as such, and let me be clear that I'm not making any of this personal against you:
Dietary alarmism is a plague. People become orthorexic in a hurry because they believe that if something is bad at a very high dosage, then it must be bad at a very low dosage.
There is a very large set of people on this site who need to lose weight and become fit. A subset of that population probably drinks either regular or diet soda. These people should not fear their diet soda especially if it means that giving up that soda causes them to go off of their diet and never reach their fitness goals.
Now I'm not claiming that diet soda is the difference between success and failure, but I DO believe that the vast majority of people who are overweight or obese and trying to effect positive change, should do whatever they can do enjoy this process as much as possible. If that means drinking diet soda, then they should do so, in moderation, without fear of growing a horn or getting MS or something else unfounded.
Being obese is probably one of the biggest health risks around.
This is why I'm quick to reply to things of this nature.
Oh no, I'm not offended at all, but thanks for that
I guess it really was stupid to just post my comment and not have a backup for it. Sometimes you just forget where you are posting and who's reading and next thing you know, you may of just scared the shi* out of someone. So yeah, I totally get where you're coming from and next time have some actual proof for people to see. 0 -
Trust me when I tell you I know where you're coming from. My great aunt died from cancer. My uncle died from cancer. My aunt is undergoing chemo and not responding to it right now. My cousin, who's a few years younger than I am, is being treated for cancer. My husbands father and sister both had cancer.
I thought all that antioxidant research on cancer didn't pan out and the only reason that stuff still persists is marketing? Could be wrong though, of course.Carcinogen feed the already existing cancer cells that live in our bodies. Antioxidants starve them. Artificial sweeteners are most definitely a carcinogen.
ETA:
@Megan
Those studies you linked to are pretty much useless. They might be a good place to form a hypothesis from but they're not good for much else...in my opinion of course.
Thats fine i understand i will stay away from them after taking my nutrition classes and watching life longers of "diet,sugar free and fat free" people get cancer.
I'm doing my best to hedge my bets as well even when the science isn't 100% there on the off chance there might be something to it.0 -
I've a limited knowledge of toxicology but there are several carcinogens in loads of natural products that people don't even think twice about because they aren't man made. Things like the tannins in tea and coffee, pyperidine in black pepper, and the cyclic amines found in most cooked meats (especially but not only burnt meat)
There has been so much research in this field that everywhere you look there is a carcinogenic compound lurking in your food. people have been eating these things for years and not having problems. My advice is stick to the safe limits given by organisations such as the FDA and everything will be fine.0 -
Hi! So I've heard that diet sodas cause you to gain weight, even the zero calorie kind. I'd hate to stop drinking diet coke, even though I have it around once a week. Is there any truth to this?
nope.0
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