Curve 1400 cals, cut 1200 cals.

Happy4lifeHHH

So I bought the program from Flavia Del Monte and there is a curve faze which is basically bulking for women and then a cutting faze. For my height and weight, I should use 1400 to curve and 1200 to cut. I am 5'2 tall and weigh 118 lbs. Flavia Del Monte and I are the exact same height and she weighs 112 lbs. She told me that she used the same curve and cut that I should use. I don't see how a woman could gain muscle on 1400 calories and then cut on 1200 without losing muscle. I am confused! It obviously worked for her though, because really, LOOK AT HER!!

sleepytexan

I would be VERY skeptical of that. Is it a heavy lifting program? If it's heavy lifting 3 x week I'd think you'd be at least at 1600 for bulking; more if you are doing any cardio on off days.

I'm 5'4, and I range from 128 - 135 lbs. I eat well over 2000 cals/day (of course my body fat is around 22% though--but I'm 44 years old, so that's techncally "lean" for an oldie).

Happy4lifeHHH

I would be VERY skeptical of that. Is it a heavy lifting program? If it's heavy lifting 3 x week I'd think you'd be at least at 1600 for bulking; more if you are doing any cardio on off days.

I'm 5'4, and I range from 128 - 135 lbs. I eat well over 2000 cals/day (of course my body fat is around 22% though--but I'm 44 years old, so that's techncally "lean" for an oldie).

Yes it is a heavy lifting program with 5 days a week workouts. Not all the exercises are heavy though, like jumping squats and lunges.

sleepytexan

hmmm. well, what I mean by heavy is using the Olympic bar -- squats (heavy -- of course you would start with empty 45 lb. bar, but move up to at least body weight, preferably more), deadlifts, benchpresses, pendlay rows, etc.

You wouldn't do 5 days of those exercises.

I don't know what jumping squats are but they sound like cardio.

Not sure about that program, but your best bet will be to use an HRM to get your best estimate of calories burned. During the bulk phase you would need to eat MORE than maintenance (that's what bulking means), so you would need to eat at maintenance PLUS all your exercise calories and then a bit more. (yes you will gain weight -- BULKING).

Your cut phase would be a deficit of probably 250 (since you are already small) plus exercise calories.

Be careful.

blessings.

Happy4lifeHHH

hmmm. well, what I mean by heavy is using the Olympic bar -- squats (heavy -- of course you would start with empty 45 lb. bar, but move up to at least body weight, preferably more), deadlifts, benchpresses, pendlay rows, etc.

You wouldn't do 5 days of those exercises.

I don't know what jumping squats are but they sound like cardio.

Not sure about that program, but your best bet will be to use an HRM to get your best estimate of calories burned. During the bulk phase you would need to eat MORE than maintenance (that's what bulking means), so you would need to eat at maintenance PLUS all your exercise calories and then a bit more. (yes you will gain weight -- BULKING).

Your cut phase would be a deficit of probably 250 (since you are already small) plus exercise calories.

Be careful.

blessings.

Yes, those are included in the workouts but there is a different workout for everyday. Its a split workout for a a few different muscle groups each day. A few isolated muscle group exercises. Jumping squats are basically cardio.. I agree with you with the calories, that's why I don't understand this program and how she achieved her body that way.

Rachaelluvszipped

Hey Hailey, I don't agree with the 1200 calories either...if u wanna gain muscle, u need to feed muscle not starve it... please be leary of these fad diets...

meshashesha2012

yeah something seems odd. there's isnt that much difference between 1400 and 1200 calories. it's like saying an extra serving of peanut butter makes the difference between a bulk and a cut? i think you'd need more calories.

maybe you can first start with figuring out your maintenance then for bulking you'd want to add the amount you burn in the workout and a few hundred more. keep in mind that buring a bulk there is also some fat that's gained, which obviously means you're going to have to eat more than your TDEE (including your workouts)