Advocare?

Shays0518

So one of my co-workers is on this / selling it. From what I can tell it looks like a "diet" wrapped around a pyramid. Am I wrong?

Shays0518

Anyone?

tnrunningnurse

Sent you a message...it is not a "diet"

aggiesrar05

not a "diet" purely pyramid.

Shays0518

Nothing personal tnrunningnurs, but I got the same speil in email from you as I did from the woman at work that is selling it. It's almost like a script.....really.

wlkumpf

I seriously considered it too.
My reasons for passing is I am looking for a weight loss with no short cuts, something of a life change. I need sustainability and don't see spending the pure amount of money they want to be truly sustainable.

To me, I use why protein because I am lifting and working out alot, so that should help with muscle production (15 per month) and it saves me money because to make up for it in chicken/fish or egg would cost more than a shake a day. A multivitamin has anything I could want to help fill in gaps.

I know a LOT of people who have done this and sadly the ones who have needed it most have gained all and extra when they stopped or ran out. I decided that I would stop asking yo yo dieters for advice and focus on the large number that have lost weight naturally and forever! Yes, there are sucess stories, however, there are a lot of sucess stories with simple diet changes and activities. Most are addicted too. They can't wait for their drink and it may be healthy, but they seem to go through withdrawels without it.

My husband still has pushed to try that or the beachbody one. The "cost more than eating at mcd's" or justifying the cost doesn't work well for me because with 3 kids that amount of money can make a difference. Also, we don't eat out. We eat a lot of fruits and vegies and almost every meal is made at home? More than a latte? Well, we don't buy coffee house drinks either. We do work out butts off for every pound lost. By doing it the way that changes our habits, I really think it will stay off for good and give us a healthy relationship with food Good luck deciding though, it looks enticing.

tnrunningnurse

Before anyone judges they should do there OWN research.. I have know reason to hide the businsess fact...you have to maintain a certain personal volume so....NOT a pyramid. True pyramids mean that after a while if you sign up enough people then you can quit working your own business. The 24 day challenge works....you don't want to try it that's your business. I personally love their rehydrate product. I am a runner and it is the best thing I have ever tried...been a runner for 16 years so I don't say that lightly.

tnrunningnurse

I seriously considered it too.
My reasons for passing is I am looking for a weight loss with no short cuts, something of a life change. I need sustainability and don't see spending the pure amount of money they want to be truly sustainable.

To me, I use why protein because I am lifting and working out alot, so that should help with muscle production (15 per month) and it saves me money because to make up for it in chicken/fish or egg would cost more than a shake a day. A multivitamin has anything I could want to help fill in gaps.

I know a LOT of people who have done this and sadly the ones who have needed it most have gained all and extra when they stopped or ran out. I decided that I would stop asking yo yo dieters for advice and focus on the large number that have lost weight naturally and forever! Yes, there are sucess stories, however, there are a lot of sucess stories with simple diet changes and activities. Most are addicted too. They can't wait for their drink and it may be healthy, but they seem to go through withdrawels without it.

My husband still has pushed to try that or the beachbody one. The "cost more than eating at mcd's" or justifying the cost doesn't work well for me because with 3 kids that amount of money can make a difference. Also, we don't eat out. We eat a lot of fruits and vegies and almost every meal is made at home? More than a latte? Well, we don't buy coffee house drinks either. We do work out butts off for every pound lost. By doing it the way that changes our habits, I really think it will stay off for good and give us a healthy relationship with food Good luck deciding though, it looks enticing.

Advocare sells more than just the 24 day challenge. The have protein supplements etc....many famous athletes use advocare. Drew Brees, Sam Bradford...hmmm

pastryari

I had a friend that did it. She also gained it all back when she stopped.


C'mon people, diet and exercise is all it takes. No need to waste money when you can do it for free.

sarahrbraun

tried the 24 day challenge, had a net loss of like 1.6lbs for the 24 days

Cut carbs down to 100g net per day. Lost 4.8lbs the first week, ate real food and didn't take a single pill.

Ellegirl22

I love Advocare. Really only use the Spark and Rehydrate but have tried a lot of their products. Not a pyramid. I only buy for myself and have never gotten any pressure to do otherwise.

Shays0518

I don't really get why she approached me in the first place about it. I'm 24 lbs down from just diet and exercise on my own. I'm guessing she's trying to build her downline.....

Amytheamazing

One of my friends started selling it a few months back--& relies on a ton of fad diets to keep her size 4 frame. She's done the 24 day cleanse program twice now in just 3 months. Not sure how much weight she gained in her month "off" from the cleanse but I find it a little laughable that she was already needing to do the 24 day cleanse again just a month later.

I looked into it since she's such a huge fan. I have a problem with amount of caffeine in the Spark drinks....waaaaay too much. One of her reasons behind using it was that a med/sci board oversaw it (very few on the board have medical degrees or experience with nutrition & most of the board members are on the med/sci boards of their competitors as well. It appears that they'll be on any board as long as they get paid, not that they are actually fans of one product over another. One member of the board has produced a lot of nutrition research but interestingly enough, none of it includes anything to do with Advocare & in his research article summaries, he never suggests any products such as advocare be used to assist with weight loss.

Her other reason for using it is that so many athletes do. I don't really care what athletes do any more than I care about celebrity diets. I care more about medical degrees, understanding of nutrition, etc. Athletes do a lot of extreme things that I wouldn't do.

I also watched a few of Advocare's training videos online, training their sales people. It was unsettling to say the least. Bottom line: I'd spend the money on a dietician visit before I'd go with Advocare.

joankpoirier

its horrible!! you can lose a lot of weight but they do not teach you how to maintain!! so you end up gaining back

wlkumpf

I had a friend that did it. She also gained it all back when she stopped.


C'mon people, diet and exercise is all it takes. No need to waste money when you can do it for free.

exactly, there is no simple fix. It takes change and work or we will gain it all back and usually with a little extra. Even if it is just a placebo reason, our body thinks it is the magic cure and when we stop it resorts back to keeping the calories.

tnrunningnurse

I don't really get why she approached me in the first place about it. I'm 24 lbs down from just diet and exercise on my own. I'm guessing she's trying to build her downline.....

Did she approach you about the 24 day challenge or about their other products? I am curious do you take vitamins or minerals, Fish oil or anything along that line? Buying those kind of supplements from Advocare is no different that buying them at the healthfood store. Like I said I did my own research and believe in the company and their philosophy about research and testing. I am a nurse and am very careful about what supplments I use. Maybe her approach was wrong. Just tell her you don't want to hear anymore about it and when you are ready then you will tell her.

mlb929

I tried to lose weight using their products. I had horrible migraines, was physically ill, felt terrible all the time. Yes, it's a pyramid in a sense, but you can "sign on" to just by for yourself, but you have to pay a fee to join to get the discounts. I've heard a lot of people really love "spark" but I found that the sweeteners in it made it bitter and there are a lot better products on the market. Not everything works for everyone. But I do know the couple of locals that used Advocare that I know gained back the weight the minute they quit using the products.

I think it's better to work with your health care provider and someone to monitor your progress rather than a friend or neighbor if you really need the extra knowledge or assistance.

tnrunningnurse

To each their own it works for some and not for others.

BucsGirl4Life

I love Advocare. Really only use the Spark and Rehydrate but have tried a lot of their products. Not a pyramid. I only buy for myself and have never gotten any pressure to do otherwise.

Me too! I buy the Spark and Rehydrate from hubby's co-worker and have never felt pressured to buy.

Shays0518

I don't really get why she approached me in the first place about it. I'm 24 lbs down from just diet and exercise on my own. I'm guessing she's trying to build her downline.....

Did she approach you about the 24 day challenge or about their other products? I am curious do you take vitamins or minerals, Fish oil or anything along that line? Buying those kind of supplements from Advocare is no different that buying them at the healthfood store. Like I said I did my own research and believe in the company and their philosophy about research and testing. I am a nurse and am very careful about what supplments I use. Maybe her approach was wrong. Just tell her you don't want to hear anymore about it and when you are ready then you will tell her.

She approached me about the 24 day challenge. She said "you're doing great but with this you can do better". When I looked into it (yes I did some research), it really smacked of an Amway type setup. Yes they have products, but their main focus is building your downline. I'm not judging you or other that are into Advocare, just wanted to get some other opinons on it.

I feel like I'm losing my weight the smart way, a half pound to a pound a week, and I'm doing it MY way. No drinks, diets, powders etc. Just modifying my lifestyle and exercise. I don't take anything other than a regular multi-vitamin.

tnrunningnurse

Well I am a firm believer in Herbal cleanses as we hold onto excess waste in our GI system, and I am also a firm believer in Omega fatty acids, Probiotics, calcium supplements and multi vitamins high in other anti oxidants.So a simple multi doesn't do it for me. Your co-worker may promote the 24 day challenge as the be all end all, but I for one am impressed with their other product lines. And as far as the previous post saying the Medical Board of Directors aren't "real" doctors here are a few of them. Sidny Stohs, PH.D, FACN,CNS,ATS chair. Former professor of Pharmaceutical Sciences Pharamcology and Toxicology, Creighton University Medical Center, Published works, more than 370 research and educational pulications in the areas of nutrition,pharmacology and Toxicology.

Stanley Durick MD- Chairman Emeritus Department of Surgery and Director EMeritus of Training Pgrogram of Surgery Saint Mary's hospital Yale affilate. This is the MD that pioneered research and development of intravenous (iv) Hyperalimentation , in laymans's terms he helped developed nutrition that goes directly into the vein, used for persons whom have had GI surgery and can have nothing throught there GI tract. , Pulbished works more than 700 scientific publictions in nutrition, critical care adn surgery.

Carl Keen PH.D Proferssor of Nutrition and Internal Medicine University of Cal, Davis. Past president CA Nutrition council, american society for nutrition....


I could list more, but I really am tired of typing. I guess I should tell these guys that they aren't "real" doctors.

wlkumpf

you are doing fantastic! Our body has a liver for a cleanse, unless there is a problem or you really like to poo a lot (it didn't have that affect on me with shakeology, actually very little affect) . There are some interesting cleanse posts on here.
If you have a varied diet with lots of different vitamins and minerals offered and are not vegan I would say a multivitamin is a good fail safe. Even that I have read may not be necessary (a news program hinted those who took multi vitamins had shorter life spans).
I eat lots of yogurt with probiotics, love greek especially. I love fresh vegies and fruits, don't get them EVERY day, but many. I drink almond milk cause I like it and regular milk at times.
I get my healthy fats and sprinkle flax and chia seeds on my oatmeal, cause I love it

If you are already losing weight I would say keep at it One reason I am really motivated is because my friend was doing atkins and I knew between fun excersize and a healthy diet I would be able to lose weight healthier (she buys bars from it), faster and more sustainable. That and I am LOVING it, I eat more than I did in the past and have met some great people along the way!

Why jepardise your journey (like I said, most gain back extra when they stop) when weight loss is all trial and error and you are on a hot streak?

tnrunningnurse

you are doing fantastic! Our body has a liver for a cleanse, unless there is a problem or you really like to poo a lot (it didn't have that affect on me with shakeology, actually very little affect) . There are some interesting cleanse posts on here.
If you have a varied diet with lots of different vitamins and minerals offered and are not vegan I would say a multivitamin is a good fail safe. Even that I have read may not be necessary (a news program hinted those who took multi vitamins had shorter life spans).
I eat lots of yogurt with probiotics, love greek especially. I love fresh vegies and fruits, don't get them EVERY day, but many. I drink almond milk cause I like it and regular milk at times.
I get my healthy fats and sprinkle flax and chia seeds on my oatmeal, cause I love it

If you are already losing weight I would say keep at it One reason I am really motivated is because my friend was doing atkins and I knew between fun excersize and a healthy diet I would be able to lose weight healthier (she buys bars from it), faster and more sustainable. That and I am LOVING it, I eat more than I did in the past and have met some great people along the way!

Why jepardise your journey (like I said, most gain back extra when they stop) when weight loss is all trial and error and you are on a hot streak?

hmm interesting that in the Stacked topic you posted the supplements you use.

wlkumpf

not sure what you mean by stacked? I was saying I get what I need in my diet and food.
I buy a cheap regular mutlivitamin, but am not sure that is even necessary. I got a 2 pack for about 10 bucks and it has about 3plus months in it. I have a varied diet and get everything I need through natural sources. I don't think I truly need a mutlivitamin and don't take it every day. I use glucosamine and fish oil, very very inexpensive, I mean pennies a day. I have had knee surgeries and work out HARD! It minimizes the affects my body feels. I don't take it every time though. I buy generic and it has nothing to do with weight loss at all, simply cushioning my body. IF I ate more fish I would not take it. I simply can't afford a lot of fish in my diet.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/10/us-multivitamins-women-idUSTRE7995LV20111010 Reuters Health) - Women taking multivitamins don't live longer than those who get their nutrients from food alone, a new U.S. study shows.
THere was an actual news cast, prime time, on how multivitamins may lower life expectancy.
I eat my probiotics in yogurt. No need for a supplement, I now use greek yogurt in place of sour cream. As far as I know this is not a supplement, this is eating a natural food source, I even have started to make my own
I get my calcium and iron as well as folic acid through foods, real foods, simple foods instead of through a pill.
Chia seeds and flax seeds are natural and have lots of wholesome goodness. If I don't eat them ever again, I won't crave them, but they are vitamin packed and natural!
I regret doing a cleanse, I had read posts after I bought it but before I started it and almost decided to not use it, but went ahead anyway. I gained all the weight back plus extra almost immediately. Am now almost back down to that point weeks and weeks later. I wish I would have listened to the threads about them.

tnrunningnurse

The purpose of a cleanse is to clean out your GI tract and colon, not to lose weight. If that is why you cleanse then of course you will gain the weight back. You posted what "supplements" you used in the Stacked forum.

slkehl

Nothing personal tnrunningnurs, but I got the same speil in email from you as I did from the woman at work that is selling it. It's almost like a script.....really.
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Did she try to sell it to you?

wlkumpf

sorry, i had no idea what you meant till I looked back at my topics. I wrote what I take. I didn't explain it, it was asking for a list.
I take a vitamin (cheap from sams) and don't always take it. I don't feel I need it. Simple. I eat healthy and balanced.
I take a fish oil and glucosamine from sams, I think, I may have bought the cheaper one from shopko on the glucosamine. I do this because I had ACL reconstruction and workouts can be hard on my joints. As in arthritis for old people. Doesn't help me lose a lb.
I use whey protein at times, I was doing it every day, but don't now. I buy 15$ vanilla from Walmart, it's cheap and I mix with almond milk, 30 calorie. It is for straight up protein. It is cheaper than buying the same amount of protein from any other source, even eggs? Who knew.
I bought creatine, and here it sits, after reading about it it's for people who want to get that last bit of fat gone and are at the top of their game, that would not describe me.
I didn't want to do the 3 day cleanse but had everything. I figured I would try it and hope to be wowwed. I ended up agreeing with the forums on the topic. Our bodies are designed to cleanse themselves. I am just glad this cleanse didn't have a laxative affect, I lucked out! I don't think they have a negative effect either.

I would say I spend 10$ a month on a what I take. Including whey. I find that acceptable. I think I could do this alone without them too. They are not a crutch or a magic pill. If I quit all of them today I feel I could keep up with my journey.