1200cal/daily for 3 weeks and havent lost a SINGLE POUND

SherryTeach

My real point is that she probably doesn't know what she is eating or how much because she isn't logging regularly. And yes, I realize that age is a big favor, but people do the 1200 isn't enough mantra about everyone.

Amberonamission

I am 250 and eat approx 1200. Some days bumping it to 1350. Loss has been no trouble. Lots of lean meats and fresh veg. I do workout like a mad woman tho. Try adding that and see what happens.

beachlover317

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12

Read this. It will tell you everything you need to know.

I have read this study. Notice it says "Systematic reviews of low-calorie diets have been unable to come to any firm conclusions about the value of different ways of achieving energy restriction, but one meta-analysis of low-fat diets produced a mean weight loss of 10 kg of weight loss that was greater in those with a higher initial body weight. Greater weight loss was achieved by subjects prescribed a 600-kcal deficit diet, compared with a conventional low-calorie (1200 kcal/d) diet... Low-calorie diets can be effective treatment, but the optimum way of delivering such diets remains unclear. "
This is hardly a ringing endorsement of higher calorie diets. Furthermore it only pertains to low-fat low calorie diets which are not healthy. Fat is an important nutrient.
Somebody who has a 100 pounds to lose who is on the first couple of weeks of dieting at 1200 calories, should be losing 2 or 3 #s per week.
According to another study in Obesity Research Journal http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v9/n11s/full/oby2001134a.html
"VLCD with active follow-up treatment seems to be one of the better treatment modalities related to long-term weight-maintenance success."
VLCD are very low calorie diets of only of under 800 calories a day!
There are NO magic studies in Obesity Research Journal that show higher calories result in higher weight loss. I'm sorry that is silliness!

I'm sure you do find this to be "silliness". When you reduce your calories for any length of time = your body will adjust to that amount of food. Sure you lose - but here's the kicker- What happens when you're at your goal weight and want to start eating like a normal person again? You gain all the weight back or you have to eat like a bird (not feeding your body correctly) for the rest of your life. When you eat at 20 - 30 % below your TDEE, you are eating to feed your body the nutrients you need, but at a deficit that allows you to lose weight slowly and in a healthy manner. It's the best way to lose weight. As you can see from my ticker - it's working for me and many others on the road map. No where on the road map does it say "Hey, eat all the food you want and keep on losing". It helps people understand that we have been fed a bunch of malarky (mostly women) that we need to starve to lose. This is just not true.

The main problem I have with your post is that you are feeding into a group of people who want to lose weight fast and the he!! with their body. They are not seeing a doctor. They read what you write and take it as sound advice. From reading your profile, I"m sure you have regular medical care. That's great. Many people on here do not.

NWCountryGal

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/654536-in-place-of-a-road-map-2-0-revised-7-2-12

Read this. It will tell you everything you need to know.

I have read this study. Notice it says "Systematic reviews of low-calorie diets have been unable to come to any firm conclusions about the value of different ways of achieving energy restriction, but one meta-analysis of low-fat diets produced a mean weight loss of 10 kg of weight loss that was greater in those with a higher initial body weight. Greater weight loss was achieved by subjects prescribed a 600-kcal deficit diet, compared with a conventional low-calorie (1200 kcal/d) diet... Low-calorie diets can be effective treatment, but the optimum way of delivering such diets remains unclear. "
This is hardly a ringing endorsement of higher calorie diets. Furthermore it only pertains to low-fat low calorie diets which are not healthy. Fat is an important nutrient.
Somebody who has a 100 pounds to lose who is on the first couple of weeks of dieting at 1200 calories, should be losing 2 or 3 #s per week.
According to another study in Obesity Research Journal http://www.nature.com/oby/journal/v9/n11s/full/oby2001134a.html
"VLCD with active follow-up treatment seems to be one of the better treatment modalities related to long-term weight-maintenance success."
VLCD are very low calorie diets of only of under 800 calories a day!
There are NO magic studies in Obesity Research Journal that show higher calories result in higher weight loss. I'm sorry that is silliness!

I'm sure you do find this to be "silliness". When you reduce your calories for any length of time = your body will adjust to that amount of food. Sure you lose - but here's the kicker- What happens when you're at your goal weight and want to start eating like a normal person again? You gain all the weight back or you have to eat like a bird (not feeding your body correctly) for the rest of your life. When you eat at 20 - 30 % below your TDEE, you are eating to feed your body the nutrients you need, but at a deficit that allows you to lose weight slowly and in a healthy manner. It's the best way to lose weight. As you can see from my ticker - it's working for me and many others on the road map. No where on the road map does it say "Hey, eat all the food you want and keep on losing". It helps people understand that we have been fed a bunch of malarky (mostly women) that we need to starve to lose. This is just not true.

The main problem I have with your post is that you are feeding into a group of people who want to lose weight fast and the he!! with their body. They are not seeing a doctor. They read what you write and take it as sound advice. From reading your profile, I"m sure you have regular medical care. That's great. Many people on here do not.

^^THIS , excellent!

fastforlife1

I would just like to say that I am personally not following a VLCD. I average about 1400-1500 calories a day to lose weight. Obesity Research Journal calls a 1200 calorie diet "low calorie." My point is according to the research done at ORJ, there is no correlation between calories averaged on a diet and weight loss maintainance. However lower calories produce quicker weight loss in the short run. The best diet, in my opinion, is the one an individual can maintain to lose weight. That varies from person to person.

Dianemustang

I used to weigh 232 - at 5'4....I exercised (treadmill) - 25 min/day 4x a week and I consistently had 1500 calories a day - 6 months later I was 182...agreed - try 1500, at least for a few weeks and see where that gets you - best of luck....I really think you in the right place, tho.

NWCountryGal

I've read quite a few research studies too and that all depends on what people are chosen for those studies. We have to take that into consideration. I feel it is worth a try when so many fad diets do NOT work, now that's been proven time and time again, talk about research studies, how many people here can confess to buying into fad diets.

I agree with you on the individual and I also believe that everyone needs to start somewhere. I feel starting with some numbers that have worked for so many people is a good idea. If it doesn't work, change the numbers. And yes, even on most of the calculator information given, they state that when very heavy or obese, you can drop off another couple 100 a day safely, and they are talking dropping off from you TDEE and say, 20% deficit. But I would not go below 1200 unless being monitored by a doctor and then I would be getting a second opinion.

denise:drinker:

I would just like to say that I am personally not following a VLCD. I average about 1400-1500 calories a day to lose weight. Obesity Research Journal calls a 1200 calorie diet "low calorie." My point is according to the research done at ORJ, there is no correlation between calories averaged on a diet and weight loss maintainance. However lower calories produce quicker weight loss in the short run. The best diet, in my opinion, is the one an individual can maintain to lose weight. That varies from person to person.

zombie_porno

Maybe that's simply too many calories for your body to consider a loss?

davefinancial

I'm a 30 year old male and I did 1200 a day (sedentary lifestyle, losing 2 pounds weekly) and I lost about 8 pounds over the course of a few weeks. I didn't need to lose a lot - I just wanted to trim off some fat. I think you just need to exercise more. I realize you said you have an active lifestyle - but try lifting weights and let the muscle help you burn fat.

On another note - don't focus on weight. Focus on your body and what you want it to look like. Muscle weighs more than fat so maybe you're losing a few sizes but just retaining the weight in a good way.

NWCountryGal

What I've read and seen illustrated with a muscle and a pile of fat is that yes, they can weigh the same amount but be a different volume and shape. Muscle is more compact and shapely where fat looks bigger and not shaped nicely. I thought that was interesting and wanted to share that here as I hear so many people say muscle weighs more then fat. Heck, I use to say it a lot:laugh:

Thing is, muscle is our bodies most effective fat burner. Fat is just stored lard with no function other then making us look like blobs:sad: It makes such good sense to me now to focus on muscle building and sort of ignore the fat (especially the scale) and I know it is going to start melting away sooner or later if I keep my muscles functioning, plus, functioning way better then I ever have;)

I'm a 30 year old male and I did 1200 a day (sedentary lifestyle, losing 2 pounds weekly) and I lost about 8 pounds over the course of a few weeks. I didn't need to lose a lot - I just wanted to trim off some fat. I think you just need to exercise more. I realize you said you have an active lifestyle - but try lifting weights and let the muscle help you burn fat.

On another note - don't focus on weight. Focus on your body and what you want it to look like. Muscle weighs more than fat so maybe you're losing a few sizes but just retaining the weight in a good way.