Freedom of Speech

chivalryder

For the Muslims in other countries: "Freedom of Speech" doesn't exist everywhere. If you were Chinese, and you tried to protest the government, you would be silenced in one form or another, and no one will ever hear about it...

Also, it's not Muslims in general that are doing this. I'm sure 90% of the Muslims around the world don't give a crap. It's the small portion who are acting out of control. It's like saying all Americans are red-necks who drive beat up old **** box trucks, don't speak English coherently, and hate the rest of the world, if they even know what exists outside of their farmland.

I don't see every American in North America going around attacking every Muslim they see, or creating acts of racism and hate. Only a select few are doing that.

The thing I find interesting about all the events that are currently taking place is that, what has been happening over the last decade has built up to this. The Middle Eastern vs America conflict has just been a pressure cooker, waiting to explode. That video just caused it to explode. The thing I would like to ask is, what if a European or Asian guy posted the video on YouTube and not an American? What would have happened then? I don't think they would be attacking embassies over it, if that were the case.

Anyway...

For the forums: Grow a pair. This thread comes up at least three times a week. You just elaborated on it more than the average post that comes up. So people are going to hate on every thread that comes up! What's the big deal? It's called the internet. If you can't ignore the idiots that are on here, then leave. It's a colourful world on here, and it's going to be full of people with nothing better to do but to hate on other people. They may have an emotional or mental reason to do so, who knows. All I know is that posting a thread like this isn't going to help anyone at all.

Oh, and for this forum in particular: It needs some REAL rules and REAL moderators. If it did, then the people/moderators would be responding to this thread by telling you to use the search function for the hundreds of similar threads, or by taking one and sticky-ing it to the mean page.

Heck, the same would go for the thousands of copy threads that appear every day.

GorillaEsq

Legally speaking, heavily moderated forums put a website owner in a position of exponentially higher liability, even though most don't realize it. By heavily moderating a forum, a website owner is legally accepting responsibility for its content... regardless of what the "TOS" may say.

total nonsense

Sometimes, I actually get tired of always being right. One has to wonder if this poster, using a fake avatar of Mickey Rourke, will now go back, actually read the entire original post and spend the rest of the day reflecting inward.

Probably not.

Dave198lbs

Legally speaking, heavily moderated forums put a website owner in a position of exponentially higher liability, even though most don't realize it. By heavily moderating a forum, a website owner is legally accepting responsibility for its content... regardless of what the "TOS" may say.

total nonsense

Sometimes, I actually get tired of always being right. One has to wonder if this poster, using a fake avatar of Mickey Rourke, will now go back, actually read the entire original post and spend the rest of the day reflecting inward.

Probably not.

get over yourself dude. moderating a forum does not increase the site owners liability

belladonna786

you're awesome

GorillaEsq

I disagree that he did not raise the idea of hate speech himself. He specifically chose hate speech as his leading example. A rose by any other name... And look at the words he chose to describe his own reactions, such as saying video producers should be "shot in the face" although in the first paragraph he said no violence should be provoked by the Islam-bashing video. Somehow, I don't believe that I am the confused party in this conversation.

I've watched a few of OPs threads and he does tend to dodge and distract more than argue the premises he put forth. It's an observation, not an attack.

Again, either by error or ignorance, you are completely wrong.

I said, "By the same logic [as wishing the producers of the Mohomed film dead]... [All producers of terrible films and media should be] shot in the face."

Go read it again.

catcrazy

I understand that the OP may not have deliberately intended it to be a political post but that is what it has largely become so....

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