Testing on humans... better than animals

firstsip
firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
Do we all agree?

I know chimpanzees have been known to exhibit the intelligence of a toddler, and elephants have been able to learn minor math, but I think testing is better suited for people.

Besides, not even apes can hold a pencil as well as we do, so what would be the point in testing animals?
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  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    I think they should taste test bacon on me. Animals don't appreciate it enough.
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    I'll test some drugs tyvm :)
  • auroranflash
    auroranflash Posts: 3,569 Member
    I would just like to add that giraffes are terrible at algebra.
  • Charlie003
    Charlie003 Posts: 1,333 Member
    I agree!
  • Yes2HealthyAriel
    Yes2HealthyAriel Posts: 453 Member
    I wouldnt mind testing some drugs if I got paid for it.
  • Determinednoob
    Determinednoob Posts: 2,001 Member
    Like tests of extended bouts of sexual activity?
  • fleur_de_lis19
    fleur_de_lis19 Posts: 926 Member
    Why don't we use criminals that are on death row for it? Just my thoughts :happy:
  • MidlifeGlowUp
    MidlifeGlowUp Posts: 91 Member
    I think they should taste test bacon on me. Animals don't appreciate it enough.

    That sounds like a sweet gig. Let's start a business. We can be partners.
  • MidlifeGlowUp
    MidlifeGlowUp Posts: 91 Member
    My opinion is unpopular, but I feel that we could make better use of the violent, recidivist criminals that we all support with our tax dollars, by using them for testing. I'm not talking about the poor idiots who screwed up once or twice and still have a shot at rejoining society. I mean the total freaks of nature who do terrible things at every opportunity. Why use innocent animals for testing when our prisons are filled with nightmare monsters who should be made to contribute something to society?
  • KittieLea
    KittieLea Posts: 1,156 Member
    Why don't we use criminals that are on death row for it? Just my thoughts :happy:
    Seriously. I don't see why we can't do this. Let their last years on earth go for a good cause since our tax dollars are paying for them to sit there anyway.
  • Kimjanebrooks
    Kimjanebrooks Posts: 253 Member
    My opinion is unpopular, but I feel that we could make better use of the violent, recidivist criminals that we all support with our tax dollars, by using them for testing. I'm not talking about the poor idiots who screwed up once or twice and still have a shot at rejoining society. I mean the total freaks of nature who do terrible things at every opportunity. Why use innocent animals for testing when our prisons are filled with nightmare monsters who should be made to contribute something to society?

    Totally agree
  • ZugTheMegasaurus
    ZugTheMegasaurus Posts: 801 Member
    This thread was a joke and we still managed to get the "screw prisoners and test on them" crap.
  • DoomCakes
    DoomCakes Posts: 806 Member
    I think they should taste test bacon on me. Animals don't appreciate it enough.

    That sounds like a sweet gig. Let's start a business. We can be partners.

    Test all new bacon recipes facility. If it has bacon in it, we'll test it.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.
  • sgv0918
    sgv0918 Posts: 851 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    definitely not unintelligent. Look at Ted Bundy
  • Brunner26_2
    Brunner26_2 Posts: 1,152
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    Our tests are being wasted on most teenagers, for that matter.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    I think they should taste test bacon on me. Animals don't appreciate it enough.

    That sounds like a sweet gig. Let's start a business. We can be partners.

    Test all new bacon recipes facility. If it has bacon in it, we'll test it.

    You guys are going to be great business partners.
  • SageGoddess320
    SageGoddess320 Posts: 2,589 Member
    Why don't we use criminals that are on death row for it? Just my thoughts :happy:

    I was going to say the same thing! We should test on the sex offenders!
  • KittieLea
    KittieLea Posts: 1,156 Member
    Why don't we use criminals that are on death row for it? Just my thoughts :happy:

    I was going to say the same thing! We should test on the sex offenders!
    Yes! Step 1: remove weiner.
  • Captain_Tightpants
    Captain_Tightpants Posts: 2,215 Member
    I think we should test on babies. If a baby can handle it, a grownup surely will.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    I quite like animals. Humans...not so much.
  • chivalryder
    chivalryder Posts: 4,391 Member
    One university researcher is actually doing a study on humans to get a better understanding on how weight gain can cause diseases like diabetes and heart problems.

    He's having a group of people eating 1000 extra fast-food calories a day.

    His reasoning is that lab rats are not enough like humans to get accurate results.

    I'll post an article URL if I can find one.
  • ChrisRS87
    ChrisRS87 Posts: 781 Member
    I think we should test on babies. If a baby can handle it, a grownup surely will.

    I'm with this.

    Homeless people could finally have a job!
  • Completely agree. About 10 months ago I decided to go 'cruelty free' with all of my makeup, hair stuff, cleaning supplies, etc.. It was hard, I gave up 99% of my stuff, but I did it. And I live on GUAM. Tiny little island and I make due. There's no excuse for people stateside to not be able to do it. It costs a little more, but that's more than worth it to me to know that nothing I'm using has been tested on an animal. And it's not just bunnies, pigs, chimps.. It's dogs too and personally that's what got me. Look up 'Beagle Freedom Project'. If you can watch those videos and see those dogs walking on GRASS and having human touch (that wasn't painful) for the first time in their lives and not even consider going cruelty free, I think you're pretty heartless. I watched those videos and then looked at my two dogs and knew that I could never be able to see them going through that and no other animal should either.

    Go cruelty free and contact companies who do and let them know you're not purchasing their products til their change their animal testing policies.
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    definitely not unintelligent. Look at Ted Bundy

    So do you think we should give them essay exams, then?
  • Dub_D
    Dub_D Posts: 1,760 Member
    I think we should test on babies. If a baby can handle it, a grownup surely will.

    Exactly. I would feel most safe using products tested on babies.
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    There is a difference between being uneducated and intelligence. It depends on the person. People in prison for drug related crimes are more likely to be uneducated and some may not be intelligent. Sociopaths are usually quite intelligent and can usually come across as charming. Look at Ted Bundy, as someone pointed out.

    And I guess I am confused by your topic. From the topic I assumed you meant drug & product testing but are talking about paper & pencil type tests like math?
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    There is a difference between being uneducated and intelligence. It depends on the person. People in prison for drug related crimes are more likely to be uneducated and some may not be intelligent. Sociopaths are usually quite intelligent and can usually come across as charming. Look at Ted Bundy, as someone pointed out.

    And I guess I am confused by your topic. From the topic I assumed you meant drug & product testing but are talking about paper & pencil type tests like math?

    Well, you don't usually use a pen for math, do you?
  • RunsOnEspresso
    RunsOnEspresso Posts: 3,218 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    There is a difference between being uneducated and intelligence. It depends on the person. People in prison for drug related crimes are more likely to be uneducated and some may not be intelligent. Sociopaths are usually quite intelligent and can usually come across as charming. Look at Ted Bundy, as someone pointed out.

    And I guess I am confused by your topic. From the topic I assumed you meant drug & product testing but are talking about paper & pencil type tests like math?

    Well, you don't usually use a pen for math, do you?

    Some people do.

    Ok, so who is giving animals paper & pencil type tests? I have not heard of this before and am curious.
  • ZugTheMegasaurus
    ZugTheMegasaurus Posts: 801 Member
    I don't really get the, "Let's test on criminals" response. Aren't they famously more uneducated than the rest of the populace? Do you really think they'll be good at Calc, or even Physics? That seems like a waste of money to me.

    There is a difference between being uneducated and intelligence. It depends on the person. People in prison for drug related crimes are more likely to be uneducated and some may not be intelligent. Sociopaths are usually quite intelligent and can usually come across as charming. Look at Ted Bundy, as someone pointed out.

    And I guess I am confused by your topic. From the topic I assumed you meant drug & product testing but are talking about paper & pencil type tests like math?

    Well, you don't usually use a pen for math, do you?
    *raises hand* I do! For some reason, using a pencil is a huge issue with my OCD.