Quick Add Calories - Cheating?

jennifermwb

I know you had a gastric bypass. you said it like 5 times. ill simplify.

this isn't about you. don't know if you understand that yet.

you would find it very difficult to find a doctor, nutritionist or healthcare professional what would agree with only counting calories. that would apply to everyone.

i dont think you are qualified to tell people to go against doctors advice.

weather YOU had a bypass or not it doesn't change the fact that calorie counting alone is not supported by medical professionals.

"Counting calories only tells one side of a multi-sided story, explains Pritikin registered dietitian Tracy Wilczek. Sure, you could easily count out – and only eat – 1,500 calories a day, but you’re not taking into consideration where those calories came from. If you’re eating an Egg McMuffin and a couple of slices of pizza, you’re probably coming in under 1,500 calories, but you’re going WAY OVERBOARD on artery-clogging saturated fat and stroke-inducing sodium. As one of our dietitians Dr. Jay Kenney likes to say: "You’ll die young, but you’ll look nice and thin in your coffin."

source: http://www.pritikin.com/your-health/health-benefits/healthy-weight-loss/1318-why-not-just-count-calories.html

but yeh... sure, keep recommending something that "worked" for you over the factual statements of medical professionals.

Have you ever been obese? I have been to no less than 20 doctors in the last few years. Every single one of them including the surgeon who performed my surgery advised me to go on a low calorie diet, not one of them asked me to track anything other than calories. So I know exactly what the medical community advises for severely obese patients.
I know it is not about me. YOU are the one who wanted to talked about what I learned. You twisted what I said to fit your own beliefs, and then continued to tell me what exactly it was that I had learned. I was simply informing you that you are wrong. That is not what I learned. You twisted my words about what micronutrients meant to MY health and took it completely out of the context I meant it in. So YES, I had to point out several times that I had weight loss surgery.....because you repeatedly tried to take that fact out of the equation to prove your own beliefs. We are all entitled to our own opinions. My opinions are based on working in the medical field most of my adult life, living as a morbidly obese woman most of my adult life, talking to dozens of doctors, and trying EVERY diet and lifestyle change in the book. I have counted everything there is to count. By far, the best success I had losing weight before my surgery was counting calories alone.

My point is that if you are looking for someone to prove your point I am not that person. We do not believe the same things. I didnt learn these things you seem to want to push. I learned that my body is different, and I have to treat it differently. That is all. My beliefs about diet and weight loss for the general population have not changed.

As for your stupid comment about what "worked" for me...keep your judgement to yourself. I failed. I am aware that I failed. It did work for me. Until I stopped doing it. Period. The fact is that a lot of diets work...as long as you actually follow them. I did, and then I didnt. But you go ahead and sit up there and pretend you are better than anyone else. I am on my own journey. I have counted calories, counted carbs, counted protien. I have done atkins, south beach, calorie counting, weight watchers. I have done jenny craig and nutrisystem. I have taken enough otc and prescription diet pills to kill a small army. I have seen 5 nutritionists, 3 surgeons, and countless others. So yes, I know what medical professionals have to say.

I dont recommend ANY diet. I recommend talking to your own doctor, doing your own research, and doing what is right for yourself. I just think that for someone who is 300 pounds and hopeless and overwhelmed that jumping all over them to keep track of so many things at once can be counter productive.

BernadetteChurch

Do you think using Quick Add calories as cheating or is it just convenient? I think it's a way to bypass adding fat and carbs. I don't know why people use these instead of taking 2 minutes to log correctly.

Whoa.....take it easy! Not everyone cares or needs to track fat and carbs as religiously as calories. I think you're assuming a whole lot about people who use QuickAdd (Lazy? Sneaky? I'm neither).

I'm mindful of the carbs & fat but the calories are what's really important to me at this stage. Some foods/portions are not in the database and cannot be easily calculated, just estimated.

So you're one of those near-perfect people who knows the nutritional value of every crumb that passes your lips--great! The rest of us may not be but we're doing just fine!

P.S. It's folks with your mindset which prevent some of us from unlocking our food diaries. Again, not all of us care about perfect "micronutrient balance". We *may* care someday when we're further along on our journeys, but perhaps not now. I'm perfectly satisfied with what I eat and my weight loss and my fitness. I don't need the self-righteous judgmental attitude from a stranger.

I'm going to assume that you're probably not a self-righteous judging person, just someone who doesn't understand where someone else is coming from--and that can be fixed.

Very well said!

nikilis

But you go ahead and sit up there and pretend you are better than anyone else. I am on my own journey. I have counted calories, counted carbs, counted protien. I have done atkins, south beach, calorie counting, weight watchers. I have done jenny craig and nutrisystem. I have taken enough otc and prescription diet pills to kill a small army. I have seen 5 nutritionists, 3 surgeons, and countless others. So yes, I know what medical professionals have to say.

wow, I feel lucky after reading that. For me it just took a calorie controlled diet, light exercise and occasionally checking on micronutrients so I make sure I get a balanced diet.

you seem to think this is about me criticizing your diet or making comments about how you in particular should conduct yourself. I assure you that this is not so. I am stating the answer to the following simple question, is a balanced diet important to overall health?

stop thinking im attacking your diet, which im not and answer the simple question, in general, for everyone. because thats what im talking about. the question above is a yes or no question that applies to human beings, and probably mammals in general.

so... yes or no?

looking forward to your answer.