Help! Weight loss has stalled!

Hi guys, so far I have lost 3 stone 12lbs since last November, it's been quite a slow and steady process which I've been happy with.

My problem is, for about the last month I've kind of just been putting in half the effort I normally did! Since coming back off my holiday just over a week ago (all inclusive-lots of fatty food and alcohol for a whole week :() I'm just finding it so hard to stick to my calorie limit.

Before I would eat just under my calories and feel fine but now I'm struggling to stay in my daily limit (which was set to 1430). I just always seem to be hungry! I'll have porridge for breakfast normally and by the time 12 o clock comes all I'm thinking about is what I'm going to eat for lunch! (the hunger is even worse after a morning gym session!) I'll have quite a big lunch, like soup and some roast veggies or a huge salad and half an hour later I'll be hungry again!

Any tips? I'm sure it's just a mental thing, I don't seem to have the same motivation I had when I first started, I think I need to get back to what I was doing when I first started eating healthily. But the always being hungry part is just so maddening, I can't help myself from picking at food :(

Sorry for the long post, I'm just hoping to hear that maybe someone can relate and offer words of encouragement!

Replies

  • susanswan
    susanswan Posts: 1,194 Member
    I know with my own eating, if I start to eat junk food and get off track, I am always starving. I simply have to say no to that and get back on track. My diet is mostly fresh produce and 80 -90% vegan. My last 10 pounds came off a heck of a lot faster than the first when I was eating a more meat and grain heavy diet. If you cheat on your plan you can expect your results to stall out. Stay true to your plan, you'll feel better and your weight loss will start up again. your body has it's own rhythm. Just keep going!
  • californiagirl2012
    californiagirl2012 Posts: 2,625 Member
    Hi guys, so far I have lost 3 stone 12lbs since last November, it's been quite a slow and steady process which I've been happy with.

    My problem is, for about the last month I've kind of just been putting in half the effort I normally did! Since coming back off my holiday just over a week ago (all inclusive-lots of fatty food and alcohol for a whole week :() I'm just finding it so hard to stick to my calorie limit.

    Before I would eat just under my calories and feel fine but now I'm struggling to stay in my daily limit (which was set to 1430). I just always seem to be hungry! I'll have porridge for breakfast normally and by the time 12 o clock comes all I'm thinking about is what I'm going to eat for lunch! (the hunger is even worse after a morning gym session!) I'll have quite a big lunch, like soup and some roast veggies or a huge salad and half an hour later I'll be hungry again!

    Any tips? I'm sure it's just a mental thing, I don't seem to have the same motivation I had when I first started, I think I need to get back to what I was doing when I first started eating healthily. But the always being hungry part is just so maddening, I can't help myself from picking at food :(

    Sorry for the long post, I'm just hoping to hear that maybe someone can relate and offer words of encouragement!

    NP on the long post :) Here is an even longer answer ;)

    All I can do is share what worked for me. I achieved my goal at age 50 after beating my head against the wall for 15 years. Yeah anyone can do it, but I can tell you that you are up against a lot when you are older and I believe females have some unique issue to face with hormones and such. The sooner you can get a handle on it the better. DO NOT GIVE UP. As I got older and the weight piled on (and I didn't feel I was eating too much!) everyone kept telling me to give up, this is what happens when you get older. I'm small, and I didn't realize how small I was until I lost the weight. Everyone said I had big bones. I looked hefty because I worked out. Once I lost the weight I realized how small I really was and that small people don't need to eat as much as big people. HINT: If you are short you are probably small.

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    To say eat more is wrong.

    To say eat less is wrong.

    To find the exact calories needed for YOU to be in a healthy sustainable calorie deficit is the right answer. Wait, if you need to adjust by 100 do it, wait, adjust, wait, adjust, wait. The tortoise wins this race.

    All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.

    It really depends on your RMR. If you are short like I am then your RMR is really just above the 1200 limit so you really don't have much room for a calorie deficit and going up is less likely to work. If you are taller you will have a higher RMR and can go up or down and still be in a deficit so you can lose no matter what. All that matters is a calorie deficit.

    Some people can eat at a big calorie deficit and some people can't. Everyone is different. Even a small calorie deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones as such, add a new workout routine, and those will make more spikes. This is a huge waiting game and requires much patience. Add in emotional eating issues and then you have more complications.

    Also people play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Make steps to make sure you are making accurate measurements. Packaged foods can have MORE than they say but not less (they get in trouble if less so they would rather error with MORE).

    If you typically intake sodium at a certain rate your body adjusts, but if you make a sudden change then you will see a spike.

    Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty (especially lifting weights) for when the fat is gone. Losing fat with no muscle is ugly and cardio alone will not make you pretty. You cannot out exercise too many calories.
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)


    The good thing is you don't have to worry about the starvation mode myth if you are fat. Only skinny people have to worry about starvation mode. It does not mean you have the capability to eat at a large calorie deficit if you have emotional eating disorders or other issues going on, but at least you don't have to be afraid of it anymore.

    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)

    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am.

    Start lifting now, lift heavy and change it up often, find a lot of weight routines with free weights, make it fun, embrace it, make it part of your life. Only 3 days a week is all it would take. Crank up your tunes and learn to love it, because your body will love it and it will make your quality of life better in many ways, especially when you get older like me.

    Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    If you are a girl you don't have the hormones to get big naturally. I lift heavy and I'm still really tiny. My lean body mass is only 104 lbs and that is fairly heavy for a 5'1" female, and quite a bit of this is due to my having very dense bones from 30 years of lifting, not all muscle, and I'm still quite tiny.

    My muscles really are not that big, but they show a lot of definition because I'm quite lean. If I gained some fat then I would have a softer more toned look (which is OKAY too!). Then if I gained more fat I would look bulking and hefty like I did most of my life until last year. YOU CAN HAVE WHATEVER YOU WANT. Lean and ripped, soft and toned, or hefty, it all depends on how much fat you leave on your body. Calories are the only thing that changes fat. Exercise is for changing or maintaining your lean body mass only. Lifting weights will give you the best bang for your buck for shaping your body. I finally changed my shape by putting lifting first and cardio 2nd. You cannot out exercise too many calories.

    I hope this helps!! -Bobbie
  • Pinzog
    Pinzog Posts: 11
    The above post is brilliant. I can only suggest taking lots of healthy stuff with you to snack on. I just started two weeks ago but gradually the constant hunger is going away! Strawberries are my fave at the moment - delicious and very low calorie! Tides me over for a while.
  • mgobluetx12
    mgobluetx12 Posts: 1,326 Member
    The above post is brilliant. I can only suggest taking lots of healthy stuff with you to snack on. I just started two weeks ago but gradually the constant hunger is going away! Strawberries are my fave at the moment - delicious and very low calorie! Tides me over for a while.

    Maybe so, but how many times have we all seen that?
  • XXXMinnieXXX
    XXXMinnieXXX Posts: 3,459 Member
    I used to be starving and Weight loss stopped. I increased protein, fiber and water and decreased carbs and I'm much less hungry and making great progress weight wise! I do 30-40% carbs, 30 protein and 30 fat, whilst zig zagging cals from 1300-1600. Days at 1300 I'm much fuller than at more carbs and 1600. I struggle to eat 1600 now! X
  • kellicci
    kellicci Posts: 409 Member
    I used to be starving and Weight loss stopped. I increased protein, fiber and water and decreased carbs and I'm much less hungry and making great progress weight wise! I do 30-40% carbs, 30 protein and 30 fat, whilst zig zagging cals from 1300-1600. Days at 1300 I'm much fuller than at more carbs and 1600. I struggle to eat 1600 now! X

    ^^^^ This.

    If you binged on carbs and sugary treats on holiday your body just got used to it. Try eating more protein it's more filling and takes longer to digest so you don't feel hungry again right away. Try adding an egg in the morning with your porridge some lean meat with your soup or salad maybe sandwich or wrap with roasted chicken or turkey. I also snack on yogurt string cheese, hard boiled eggs and cottage cheese great higher protein snacks. That keeps me full on only 1300 a day.
  • SopranogirlCa
    SopranogirlCa Posts: 188 Member
    Hi guys, so far I have lost 3 stone 12lbs since last November, it's been quite a slow and steady process which I've been happy with.

    My problem is, for about the last month I've kind of just been putting in half the effort I normally did! Since coming back off my holiday just over a week ago (all inclusive-lots of fatty food and alcohol for a whole week :() I'm just finding it so hard to stick to my calorie limit.

    Before I would eat just under my calories and feel fine but now I'm struggling to stay in my daily limit (which was set to 1430). I just always seem to be hungry! I'll have porridge for breakfast normally and by the time 12 o clock comes all I'm thinking about is what I'm going to eat for lunch! (the hunger is even worse after a morning gym session!) I'll have quite a big lunch, like soup and some roast veggies or a huge salad and half an hour later I'll be hungry again!

    Any tips? I'm sure it's just a mental thing, I don't seem to have the same motivation I had when I first started, I think I need to get back to what I was doing when I first started eating healthily. But the always being hungry part is just so maddening, I can't help myself from picking at food :(

    Sorry for the long post, I'm just hoping to hear that maybe someone can relate and offer words of encouragement!

    NP on the long post :) Here is an even longer answer ;)

    All I can do is share what worked for me. I achieved my goal at age 50 after beating my head against the wall for 15 years. Yeah anyone can do it, but I can tell you that you are up against a lot when you are older and I believe females have some unique issue to face with hormones and such. The sooner you can get a handle on it the better. DO NOT GIVE UP. As I got older and the weight piled on (and I didn't feel I was eating too much!) everyone kept telling me to give up, this is what happens when you get older. I'm small, and I didn't realize how small I was until I lost the weight. Everyone said I had big bones. I looked hefty because I worked out. Once I lost the weight I realized how small I really was and that small people don't need to eat as much as big people. HINT: If you are short you are probably small.

    Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.

    Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.

    The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.

    To say eat more is wrong.

    To say eat less is wrong.

    To find the exact calories needed for YOU to be in a healthy sustainable calorie deficit is the right answer. Wait, if you need to adjust by 100 do it, wait, adjust, wait, adjust, wait. The tortoise wins this race.

    All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.

    It really depends on your RMR. If you are short like I am then your RMR is really just above the 1200 limit so you really don't have much room for a calorie deficit and going up is less likely to work. If you are taller you will have a higher RMR and can go up or down and still be in a deficit so you can lose no matter what. All that matters is a calorie deficit.

    Some people can eat at a big calorie deficit and some people can't. Everyone is different. Even a small calorie deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones as such, add a new workout routine, and those will make more spikes. This is a huge waiting game and requires much patience. Add in emotional eating issues and then you have more complications.

    Also people play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Make steps to make sure you are making accurate measurements. Packaged foods can have MORE than they say but not less (they get in trouble if less so they would rather error with MORE).

    If you typically intake sodium at a certain rate your body adjusts, but if you make a sudden change then you will see a spike.

    Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty (especially lifting weights) for when the fat is gone. Losing fat with no muscle is ugly and cardio alone will not make you pretty. You cannot out exercise too many calories.
    What is the exact number of calories for you?

    We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.

    In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
    per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
    the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
    that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
    calculators and text books say otherwise.

    This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
    was just a bit off.

    -John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)


    The good thing is you don't have to worry about the starvation mode myth if you are fat. Only skinny people have to worry about starvation mode. It does not mean you have the capability to eat at a large calorie deficit if you have emotional eating disorders or other issues going on, but at least you don't have to be afraid of it anymore.

    The Theory of Fat Availability:
    •There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
    •The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
    •Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
    may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.

    At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
    you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
    when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
    as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
    men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].

    -Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)

    Lifting weights is KEY. I recently had my DXA scan done and at 51.5 years of age I have the bone density of a super athletic 30 year old. That is a direct result of lifting for over 30 years. Now if that is not scientific proof that lifting weights keeps you younger I don't know what is! Also I believe it is why most people think I look much younger than I really am.

    Start lifting now, lift heavy and change it up often, find a lot of weight routines with free weights, make it fun, embrace it, make it part of your life. Only 3 days a week is all it would take. Crank up your tunes and learn to love it, because your body will love it and it will make your quality of life better in many ways, especially when you get older like me.

    Because of this I don't have to worry about osteoporosis. If you wait until you are older and your bones start to deteriorate it's a bit too late, you can't get back what you lost, you can only start a resistance routine that will prevent further damage.

    If you are a girl you don't have the hormones to get big naturally. I lift heavy and I'm still really tiny. My lean body mass is only 104 lbs and that is fairly heavy for a 5'1" female, and quite a bit of this is due to my having very dense bones from 30 years of lifting, not all muscle, and I'm still quite tiny.

    My muscles really are not that big, but they show a lot of definition because I'm quite lean. If I gained some fat then I would have a softer more toned look (which is OKAY too!). Then if I gained more fat I would look bulking and hefty like I did most of my life until last year. YOU CAN HAVE WHATEVER YOU WANT. Lean and ripped, soft and toned, or hefty, it all depends on how much fat you leave on your body. Calories are the only thing that changes fat. Exercise is for changing or maintaining your lean body mass only. Lifting weights will give you the best bang for your buck for shaping your body. I finally changed my shape by putting lifting first and cardio 2nd. You cannot out exercise too many calories.

    I hope this helps!! -Bobbie

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