Never eating this kind of food-again-not for faint-hearted

heroyalslimness

I am trying to adapt to a raw food lifestyle--you cannot tell by my food diary--but that's the goal

I follow raw foodists and their blogs and You-Tubes videos.
I innocently go to this one blog for a raw chili recipe---and am looking at the raw food recipes and the photos. There is this one photo of a baby lamb looking adoringly at its mother as it kisses her--then suddenly there are a series of videos.

I click on one---and there's a reporter in China explaining the consideration of legislation banning --domestic animals--cats and dogs for consumption.

The Chinese government is considering taking meat from domestic animals off menus across the country, raising concerns among dog farmers who have relied on the industry for generations.

The draft proposal to ban dog and cat meat has drawn an angry outcry from regions where the dish is popular.

Opponents say the ban would destroy local culinary traditions.

Al Jazeera's Melissa Chan reports from Jiangsu province in eastern China. (Feb 08, 2010)

TAKING "MEAT" OF DOMESTIC ANIMALS OFF THE MENU????????

THOUGHT THAT WHOLE IDEA WAS ONLY A STEREOTYPE!
I had NO idea it was reality

Then the video flashes to a store where you can get gift-wrapped boxes of dog--then to a restaurant--where it showed some one eating what looks like a cut of beef flank dripping with gravy--and --it's not..
Evidently farmers who raise the animals for slaughter--are upset---they do not see the difference between cat or cow or dog or
Just when I thought it could not get worse---the video with out warning flashes to THE INSIDE of a domestic animal slaughterhouse--- horrifying.

I was in tears--remember I had no idea--It was like a trick---after all--I was looking for a raw chili recipe!I could not bear to watch anymore.

Tomorrow- I am going with some friends to see Argo and then we were going to a eastern-influenced restaurant.. That video has effectively killed my appetite for anything remotely of that cuisine-before I was worried about eating egg rolls and calories--but now--I have those images and suddenly calories are moot. Then on side bar of other related You-Tubes
there are titles like

"Korean Dog Meat Market"
"Against Cat Meat Trade"

Tthe farmer asked what's the difference and, I am not making a case for vegetarianism--I believe some people need meat and I also think it's none of my business---but I also think there's a point to be made. Personally-I have to eat fish or I faint--if not for that---no animal would be on my plate.

Anyways--after the movie---
Tea---is all I'm going to have

endlesoul

Yes this is what goes on in other parts of the world, people eat flesh and other countries eat what they consider protein. Look at Africa "elephant & rhino" and all sorts of insects. America my gosh opossum, raccoon,squirrel, snake etc. blehhh :sick:

I love cats and dogs and all animals, and yes I eat meat. I don't think that the people are bad for eating cats and dogs. What I think is bad is any animal that is held, raised and slaughtered in a cruel manner. They is no reason for animal cruelty................

Hope you enjoy your tea :drinker:

nikilis

the older generation in china had to endure civil war and the invasion of the japanese, the middle aged the cultural revolution, collective farming and desperate poverty which in the provinces still continues today. china is changing, but they have a saying "anything with its back facing the sky is good to eat" which comes from surviving hard times collectively as a nation. my ex girlfriends father had to train for years to get strong enough to go across china, then swim to hong kong and then pay fisherman to bring him ashore. he always has had a large store of emergency food that in his home that could last up to a year, just incase china took over hong kong.

when your family is starving to death, dog, cat, rat etc looks pretty good. I get what you are saying, but people who have been through hard times are unscrupulous. thats why they're still alive. the provinces in china have always been poor. its part of the history of china.

heroyalslimness

Yes this is what goes on in other parts of the world, people eat flesh and other countries eat what they consider protein. Look at Africa "elephant & rhino" and all sorts of insects. America my gosh opossum, raccoon,squirrel, snake etc. blehhh :sick:

I love cats and dogs and all animals, and yes I eat meat. I don't think that the people are bad for eating cats and dogs. What I think is bad is any animal that is held, raised and slaughtered in a cruel manner. They is no reason for animal cruelty................

Hope you enjoy your tea :drinker:

I do not think other cultures are "bad" for eating cats and dogs--that is their cultural norm
And when the farmer said---what was the difference between dogs and cattle---I respected his view point--I think it was completely valid. That said --I was still in tears

Again--I was on a raw foodists's blog---searching for a recipe for raw chili --because the cold weather will be coming
and this took me by surprise. I honestly thought---television sitcom jokes that I would see about accidentally eating a cat or dog or rat in a eastern-cultured restaurant--was --a stereotype.

I do not know about African food---except my mom traveled to Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana and came back with recipes--she made some peanut-butter based soup with tomatoes and fish head---that I refused to eat. I have heard of rhino and zebra steaks --I think?

My parents come from the south---(although California based now) -and my mother grew up on a farm where they regularly slaughtered animals for food.

When I was a little girl---I ate without thinking what was put in front of me
that included

deer---yuck
goat--double yuck
possum--amnesia
raccoon--it was actually tasty--very stringy looking though
lamb....yum
hog intestines--quadruple YUCK
barbecued turkey butt~~ delicious :noway:

I guess I'm not one to talk --am I?

Once my mother bought a LIVE turkey---and kept in the garage for three days. It hid behind my dad's playboy magazines.
It looked scared and sad. The next time I saw it --it was wrapped in wax paper in the freezer --I'd go and visit
it---and I thought weren't you just walking around the other day? The next time--it was on a platter for Thanksgiving dinner
I could not believe my siblings were tearing into to it. I guess it's no accident I wound up being vegetarian for several years.
I thought it was a quirky experiment at first but as time went on---I had deeper feelings about it

I am bored and annoyed with some vegetarian and vegans who proselytize and generalize why everyone ---should abstain from eating animals


-it's a huge stretch for me to think of dogs and cats as edible protein -
actually heart-breaking though I fully understand the logic

heroyalslimness

the older generation in china had to endure civil war and the invasion of the japanese, the middle aged the cultural revolution, collective farming and desperate poverty which in the provinces still continues today. china is changing, but they have a saying "anything with its back facing the sky is good to eat" which comes from surviving hard times collectively as a nation. my ex girlfriends father had to train for years to get strong enough to go across china, then swim to hong kong and then pay fisherman to bring him ashore. he always has had a large store of emergency food that in his home that could last up to a year, just incase china took over hong kong.

when your family is starving to death, dog, cat, rat etc looks pretty good. I get what you are saying, but people who have been through hard times are unscrupulous. thats why they're still alive. the provinces in china have always been poor. its part of the history of china.

Thank you so much for this--perspective---and history---it make more sense to me. And I see now --having it posted like that--on a blog without---context....was confusing.

I honestly don't think it's unscrupulous when you are starving and trying to survive...and there's a parallel to African Americans
who according to my parents--told us African American slaves were forced to make do with what was considered the refuse--or left overs of the animals--and they made it delicious---and appetizing---that's one way Soul food evolved.

rainbowbow

What defines what animals are/are not okay to kill for meat? I'm sorry, but in my opinion the slaughtering of an animal should not depend on how cute i think it is/how smart i think it is.

If dog tastes great, then awesome. If cat tastes great, then awesome. I DO NOT eat meat and have never eaten meat in my entire life. In my opinion killing and eating a dog is no more disgusting than killing and eating a pig, chicken, or cow. It is simply "acceptable" in our society. Such as killing and eating dog/cat is acceptable in theirs.

Bentley2718

What defines what animals are/are not okay to kill for meat? I'm sorry, but in my opinion the slaughtering of an animal should not depend on how cute i think it is/how smart i think it is.

If dog tastes great, then awesome. If cat tastes great, then awesome. I DO NOT eat meat and have never eaten meat in my entire life. In my opinion killing and eating a dog is no more disgusting than killing and eating a pig, chicken, or cow. It is simply "acceptable" in our society. Such as killing and eating dog/cat is acceptable in theirs.

This, except I grew up eating meat and stopped. The value of an animal's life should not depend on whether you think it is cute, or intelligent, or whatever arbitrary criteria.

Bentley2718

-it's a huge stretch for me to think of dogs and cats as edible protein -
actually heart-breaking though I fully understand the logic

If we are being perfectly logical about it, dogs and cats are edible protein, this is a fact. So are you and I. I think the word you are searching for here is hypocrite.

heroyalslimness

What defines what animals are/are not okay to kill for meat? I'm sorry, but in my opinion the slaughtering of an animal should not depend on how cute i think it is/how smart i think it is.

If dog tastes great, then awesome. If cat tastes great, then awesome. I DO NOT eat meat and have never eaten meat in my entire life. In my opinion killing and eating a dog is no more disgusting than killing and eating a pig, chicken, or cow. It is simply "acceptable" in our society. Such as killing and eating dog/cat is acceptable in theirs.

Yep---below is what I said

I do not think other cultures are "bad" for eating cats and dogs--that is their cultural norm
And when the farmer said---what was the difference between dogs and cattle---I respected his view point--I think it was completely valid. That said --I was still in tears

I think we are all in agreement...

Bentley2718

What defines what animals are/are not okay to kill for meat? I'm sorry, but in my opinion the slaughtering of an animal should not depend on how cute i think it is/how smart i think it is.

If dog tastes great, then awesome. If cat tastes great, then awesome. I DO NOT eat meat and have never eaten meat in my entire life. In my opinion killing and eating a dog is no more disgusting than killing and eating a pig, chicken, or cow. It is simply "acceptable" in our society. Such as killing and eating dog/cat is acceptable in theirs.

Yep---below is what I said

I do not think other cultures are "bad" for eating cats and dogs--that is their cultural norm
And when the farmer said---what was the difference between dogs and cattle---I respected his view point--I think it was completely valid. That said --I was still in tears

I think we are all in agreement...

If you accept the killing of dogs and cats as a perfectly valid viewpoint, the same way you accept the killing of cows and pigs as perfectly valid, then why post a long post decrying it?

abyt42

the older generation in china had to endure civil war and the invasion of the japanese, the middle aged the cultural revolution, collective farming and desperate poverty which in the provinces still continues today. china is changing, but they have a saying "anything with its back facing the sky is good to eat" which comes from surviving hard times collectively as a nation. my ex girlfriends father had to train for years to get strong enough to go across china, then swim to hong kong and then pay fisherman to bring him ashore. he always has had a large store of emergency food that in his home that could last up to a year, just incase china took over hong kong.

when your family is starving to death, dog, cat, rat etc looks pretty good. I get what you are saying, but people who have been through hard times are unscrupulous. thats why they're still alive. the provinces in china have always been poor. its part of the history of china.

Thank you so much for this--perspective---and history---it make more sense to me. And I see now --having it posted like that--on a blog without---context....was confusing.

I honestly don't think it's unscrupulous when you are starving and trying to survive...and there's a parallel to African Americans
who according to my parents--told us African American slaves were forced to make do with what was considered the refuse--or left overs of the animals--and they made it delicious---and appetizing---that's one way Soul food evolved.

Also "dachhasen" (or roof rabbit) is another term for cat: you eat what's available in order to survive.

heroyalslimness

Also "dachhasen" (or roof rabbit) is another term for cat: you eat what's available in order to survive.

wow so interesting! Thanks for your post.

You know--as a little girl--I never questioned the animals that went on the dinner plate --that I would find revolting now.

Hog intestines!?! -- And I saw them being pulled out of the carcass as a kid on my grandparents farm

But my parents told me similar stories about how slaves survived.......

bm1435

I think people should read the posters responding comments before posting rude things! I think the poster accepted the other side of things and learned something. No need to shout hypocrite.