MFP says I'll weigh X amoun in 5 weeks......
bopper
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Each day that I close down my diary it says I will weigh X amount in 5 weeks, yet 5 weeks goes by and the scale doesn't move. Workouts are consistent as have "Always" been, I am religious about my diary and I don't lose 1 pound. Any ideas?
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Your diary is locked and it's impossible to offer suggestions without knowing more about your routine.0
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as you know, i have the exact same problem. the 5 week weight does vary depending on my calories and exercise but i never hit it!! i'm experimenting with eating more calories. i typically go over one day a week. i'll see if this helps me. also trying to be more diligent on my water.
i'll be checking here to see what others say. it's discouraging to see that number and no change...0 -
It's a guess to keep you motivated. You're not doing anything wrong. Mine always say I will weigh 10# lighter but I never do.0
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Stacy I hear ya girl! I upped my calories for a while to see if that would work and it actually had me gain weight, so lowered back down and still the same weight. Like it is cemented onto me,,,,,,,,I workout religiously and I chart my food religiously and nothing ever changes. If anything I am up .5 pounds.0
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As far as that message goes, it's purely based on numbers - And if weight loss were purely about numbers, our lives would be a lot simpler; however, weightloss has as much to do with what you're eating, and what you're doing for a workout, whether you're sick, or you're on your period, what your metabolism is like, etc as it does with actual calorie deficit.
I recently hit a plateau, and I would finish my journal and it would always say "if every day were like today you'd be 185.9 in five weeks!" and of course, I haven't made it to 185 yet. Obviously what I had been doing (sticking to a roughly 1200 calories a day and exercising) was no longer working for me. I have reevaluated my goals, and done some research about what my body needs. I have increased my calories to 1500-1800 a day and it has helped my workouts and my weight has started to go down again.0 -
Then either your calories in or your calories out (or both) are the wrong figures.
(Oh and yes, it's a very basic calculation.)
If you've been very careful with putting every single calorie in (and remember food packaging isn't always even near correct), how have you been measuring your exercise?
MFP is apparantly notorious at over-estimating calories burnt.0 -
I smile at that little message every day that I close my diary. Basically I'm doing just that but I havent nearly hit the number and its been a looong time.0
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Was just about to post this very thing, been 5 weeks, thought I lost three lbs and this morning I'm back at 191. I'm killing myself at the gym and eating a deficit and nothing gives. Depressing0
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I should have disappeared by now, haha. I don't put any stock in that.0
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The type of food I eat determines how much I lose. Some say that only calories matter, but I am consistently losing 10 lbs a month so eating mostly non processed food is helping me. I am rarely hungry with my 1200 calories a day. I make sure I eat so that I am not famished and then overeat. But I eat fruit, nuts, yogurt, light soup or veggies for a snack.0
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Thanks everyone, I am not alone the. I measure my exercise with my Polar Heart Rate Monitor so I know it is correct. I know that the calories MFP says is not accurate.0
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You don't HAVE to press that button at the end of the day....0
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It might be time to change up your workout routine. Your body gets very efficient at working and using as few calories as it can to do the same activity once it gets used to it. Keep your body guessing with various workouts and not doing them always on the same days and I'm sure you can break through your plateau. :-)0
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It's just a basic calculation and meant as a guideline if you do things in moderation, not to the extremes. (If the number is somewhere between your BMR and TDEE it is more likely to be accurate than if you cut 900 calories from what you should be eating). If you consistently eat way below what your body needs, you put your body under stress and your metabolism slows down to keep up with the much reduced intake in which case the figure becomes less and less accurate.0
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I've been entering that number in my daily notes and I am and have been right on track. I have a long way to go but that number is a great motivator for me. A couple years ago there was a lot of talk about zigzag dieting. Meaning vary your calories and exercise. Essentially, keep your body guessing. It has been helpful to bump me off of plateau. Just a thought, do you use a heart rate monitor? Is it possible that your numbers are off? I've found that my HRM calories burned are always lower than MFP estimates.0
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As far as that message goes, it's purely based on numbers - And if weight loss were purely about numbers, our lives would be a lot simpler; however, weightloss has as much to do with what you're eating, and what you're doing for a workout, whether you're sick, or you're on your period, what your metabolism is like, etc as it does with actual calorie deficit.
This is why I ignore the message and don't bother to officially complete my entries.0 -
Does it come with a money back guarantee?
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Each day that I close down my diary it says I will weigh X amount in 5 weeks, yet 5 weeks goes by and the scale doesn't move. Workouts are consistent as have "Always" been, I am religious about my diary and I don't lose 1 pound. Any ideas?
The numbers reported are not accurate for me.
There is no mystery to weight loss, everyone thinks something is wrong, their metabolism is broken, they have low thyroid, they have menopause or whatever issue, they are as unique as a snowflake, whatever. I thought a lot of these things once too but once the doctor helped resolve the health issues for me I learned there is still no magic pill. Most people eat more than they need to and are not at good at estimating calories as they think they are. Most people have a lower BMR than they think they do. The only way to know for sure is to go to a lab and have it tested. It doesn't seem fair to have to eat less and feel a little hunger. It's hard to face the truth of it, very hard. It's not fun. It's drudgery at times. But if you learn to enjoy your smaller amounts of food (necessary to lose weight, since the reason we got fat in the first place was eating too much whether we knew it or not), and rejoice in your victories it can be done.
All I can do is share what worked for me. I achieved my goal at age 50 after beating my head against the wall for 15 years. Yeah anyone can do it, but I can tell you that you are up against a lot when you are older and I believe females have some unique issue to face with hormones and such. The sooner you can get a handle on it the better. DO NOT GIVE UP. As I got older and the weight piled on (and I didn't feel I was eating too much!) everyone kept telling me to give up, this is what happens when you get older. I'm small, and I didn't realize how small I was until I lost the weight. Everyone said I had big bones. I looked hefty because I worked out. Once I lost the weight I realized how small I really was and that small people don't need to eat as much as big people. HINT: If you are short you are probably small.
Your body loses weight in chunks, not linear. I have found that you can do everything right and your weight loss seems to plateau but if you are patient and keep exercising and eating at a deficit (however slight) you will lose it, it will suddenly "whoosh". There are so many variables for the scale; water retention, digestion, hormones, allergies, sodium, carbs, water intake, DOMS, inflammation, the list goes on. People mistakenly think they lose or gain weight when they eat more or less because of these fluctuations.
Losing weight requires tremendous patience. You will not lose it when you want it or where you want it. The body does its thing. Some apparent plateaus can last a month or so. You cannot make it happen faster. You must focus on two things; calories and exercise. Nothing else matters. Scales and metrics don't matter. The day in and day out grind of exercise and calories are all that matters. It is not very exciting until things fall into place. You get your victories and you ride one victory to the next.
The scale is a trend tool. The scale is good but put it away and only check once a week and only use it as a trend tool. It will fluctuate, it does not matter. Take front side and back progress pictures at least once a month. You will see differences that the metrics won't tell you and it's that little bit of NSV that will keep you going until the next victory.
To say eat more is wrong.
To say eat less is wrong.
To find the exact calories needed for YOU to be in a healthy sustainable calorie deficit is the right answer. Wait, if you need to adjust by 100 do it, wait, adjust, wait, adjust, wait. The tortoise wins this race.
All that matters is calories. A healthy balanced diet within a calorie budget for a deficit that is right for YOU is all that matters for weight loss. Don't make it complicated.
Also people play mental accounting games with calories just like with finances. Make steps to make sure you are making accurate measurements. Packaged foods can have MORE than they say but not less (they get in trouble if less so they would rather error with MORE).
If you typically intake sodium at a certain rate your body adjusts, but if you make a sudden change then you will see a spike.
Exercise is for making your lean body mass pretty (especially lifting weights) for when the fat is gone. Losing fat with no muscle is ugly and cardio alone will not make you pretty. You cannot out exercise too many calories.
It really is about calories. I tell people this all the time and they say "Well if calories are all that matter why do you eat so clean???!!" Well, because it makes me feel better, sleep better, and perform better at my sports.
Too many changes at once can be hard on some people. I've always eaten healthy so it easy for me to simply eat less. Eating at a calorie deficit is hard on people; even a small deficit puts your body in a state of flux with hormones and such. Everyone is different. Some people can handle a deeper calorie deficit than others, this is not right or wrong, it just is. Stress in your life affects your hunger hormones; lack of sleep, fatigue, job stress, family stress, financial stress, etc. Add in emotional eating issues and it gets even more complicated. Most people can only handle so much change/stress at once, they try to do too much and fail. Sometimes it might be a better strategy to eat at maintenance and make some small changes first, it really depends on how much stress you are taking in at the moment.What is the exact number of calories for you?
We’ve been trying to figure out an exact NUMBER of calories that everyone should be eating, without recognizing that everyone is slightly different. In truth, the calories aren’t the end game. Your body is. So the EXACT amount of Calories that are right for you is the EXACT amount that will allow you to maintain your ideal bodyweight no matter what some calculator or chart says.
In other words, an online calculator might tell you that you need to eat 2,500 calories
per day to maintain your ideal bodyweight. But the only way to know for sure if this is
the right amount for you is to test it out. If you gain weight or can’t lose weight eating
that much, then you know you need to eat less to lose weight no matter how many
calculators and text books say otherwise.
This doesn’t mean your metabolism is broken, it just means the estimate of your needs
was just a bit off.
-John Barban (The Body Centric Calorie Guide from the Venus Index and Adonis Index Manuals)
The good thing is you don't have to worry about the starvation mode myth if you are fat. Only skinny people have to worry about starvation mode. It does not mean you have the capability to eat at a large calorie deficit if you have emotional eating disorders or other issues going on, but at least you don't have to be afraid of it anymore.
The Theory of Fat Availability:
•There is a set amount of fat that can be released from a fat cell.
•The more fat you have, the more fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
•The less fat you have, the less fat can be used as a fuel when dieting.
•Towards the end of a transformation, when body fat is extremely low you
may not have enough fat to handle a large caloric deficit anymore.
At the extreme low end, when your body fat cannot ‘keep up’ with the energy deficit
you've imposed on your body, the energy MUST come from SOMEWHERE. This is
when you are at risk of losing lean body mass during dieting (commonly referred to
as ‘starvation mode’). This happens at extremely low levels of body fat, under 6% in
men and 12% in women [Friedl K.E. J Appl Phsiol, 1994].
-Brad Pilon and John Barban (from The Reverse Taper Diet in The Adonis Index and Venus Index manuals)0 -
Not sure about your situation but for me the 5 weeks thing was always a liar...until I switched to maintenance and now it's pretty much always spot on unless I have a bad day!0
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Does it come with a money back guarantee?
This reminds me of the scene in Tommy Boy where they talk about the guarantee on the box just meaning it was a guaranteed piece of *kitten*.0 -
Californiagir FTW!0
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When I started MFP, that number was still really high. I like seeing that, based on my numbers (which is based on my food intake and exercise), I could possibly weigh 132.9 in 5 weeks...whether I actually make it to that or not. At least it doesn't say something higher!!!0
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Well, MFP had been lying to me for over 200 days...I have never "weighed in 5 weeks" what is has told me I would!!! I haven't weighed what it had told me I would ever!!
It just doesn't do the math right for my body.....
If its not working for you, your probably need to switch something up, eat more, eat less, do something entirely different.0 -
The number is right for me, however when I eat more on the weekend, it negates the estimate giving to me during the week.0
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I quit reading that. It lies. ;-)0
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I must agree and add that the number one dilemna that most of us face is figuring out a portion size... If I think its over one serving its not 1 and 1/2 its 2... If I figure that the serving is larger than it is I am still under my calories... If I round down there is no telling how much you actually rounded down. The simple calculations are correct but if you give the wrong total numbers because you aren't figuring a serving size properly then you will be off on your figures...Then either your calories in or your calories out (or both) are the wrong figures.
(Oh and yes, it's a very basic calculation.)
If you've been very careful with putting every single calorie in (and remember food packaging isn't always even near correct), how have you been measuring your exercise?
MFP is apparantly notorious at over-estimating calories burnt.0 -
Does anyone take lean muscle mass into consideration?I have been training like a beast and eating well,usually am below my minimum calories for the day and this is after my workout,i have not lost a pound,but guess what...my body is transforming,thats where the results are,throw away the scale,the number at the end of the day is useless.0
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There is no mystery to weight loss, everyone thinks something is wrong, their metabolism is broken, they have low thyroid, they have menopause or whatever issue, they are as unique as a snowflake, whatever. I thought a lot of these things once too but once the doctor helped resolve the health issues for me I learned there is still no magic pill. Most people eat more than they need to and are not at good at estimating calories as they think they are. Most people have a lower BMR than they think they do. The only way to know for sure is to go to a lab and have it tested. It doesn't seem fair to have to eat less and feel a little hunger. It's hard to face the truth of it, very hard. It's not fun. It's drudgery at times. But if you learn to enjoy your smaller amounts of food (necessary to lose weight, since the reason we got fat in the first place was eating too much whether we knew it or not), and rejoice in your victories it can be done.
I just got the results of my RMR (Resting Metabolic Rate) test. I'm a tiny person (4'11" and 104lbs right now) trying to maintain, and it says I need 991 calories to survive! They recommended 1100 calories to maintain my weight without exercise, and 1200 if I exercise 3x/week for 30 minutes at moderate intensity. This is *to maintain*. Sigh... However, these exact numbers have been working for me in the past 5 months (lost about 13 lbs), so now I know it wasn't a fluke, but these are really the correct numbers for my body.
Cheers!0 -
I really hate it too - I just ignore it
I think it is just doing the math - you need to be deficit by 3,500 calories to lose 1 pound it just takes you days defiict and adds up 5 weeks worrth, but we all eat up and down so it would be way more useful to take the last 5 weeks average calorie deficit and project 5 weeks out from that.0 -
Does anyone take lean muscle mass into consideration?I have been training like a beast and eating well,usually am below my minimum calories for the day and this is after my workout,i have not lost a pound,but guess what...my body is transforming,thats where the results are,throw away the scale,the number at the end of the day is useless.
Try the tools on this site they include lean mass in the equation
http://www.fat2fitradio.com/tools/ibw/0
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