what are yourthought on Intermittent Fasting
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I guess I sort of do that naturally - I fast from 10pm - noon the next day and eat from noon until 10. Does that count? lol
^^^me too...then heard it was IF. I hate brekky ...feel more alert when I don't have it. Tried to do brekky cos u "supposed" to but it made me sluggish n crave...although if I do wake up slightly hungry I'll have avocado or protein. Rarely tho. Don't care if it's unconventional...I don't try to do it..I enjoy taking cue from my body.0 -
I think 14/10 or16/8 are good starting points
Ok - so I eat breakfast at 8am, lunch at noon, and dinner at 5pm and then no evening snacks - I'm actually doing roughly a 14/10 IF (14 hrs of fasting and 10 hrs of eating)?
It sounds like just a normal day. Call it what you want, play whatever mind games you need to play. It sounds to me like it's basically do whatever works for you - just eat at a calorie deficit.0 -
I think 14/10 or16/8 are good starting points
Ok - so I eat breakfast at 8am, lunch at noon, and dinner at 5pm and then no evening snacks - I'm actually doing roughly a 14/10 IF (14 hrs of fasting and 10 hrs of eating)?
It sounds like just a normal day. Call it what you want, play whatever mind games you need to play. It sounds to me like it's basically do whatever works for you - just eat at a calorie deficit.
if thats a normal day (no eating at ALL from 5 pm to 8 am) then good for you. But I doubt that is a normal day for most people0 -
if thats a normal day (no eating at ALL from 5 pm to 8 am) then good for you. But I doubt that is a normal day for most people
Actually, I think that is fairly normal for a lot of people - eat dinner 5-6pm and then don't snack in the evening. A lot of dieters try not to eat anything in the evenings at all. It's just interesting.0 -
Don't really see the point. To each his own.0
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if thats a normal day (no eating at ALL from 5 pm to 8 am) then good for you. But I doubt that is a normal day for most people
Actually, I think that is fairly normal for a lot of people - eat dinner 5-6pm and then don't snack in the evening. A lot of dieters try not to eat anything in the evenings at all. It's just interesting.
What she said...No snacks after dinner...been doing it for 5 weeks now and really seeing the scale move. I have my yogurt in the afternoon with a little fruit (and wheat germ of course) and then a reasonable dinner with 1/2 serving of complex carbs.
So if you think of it in that vein, I fast for 14 hours every day (as I eat b'fast around 9am). But I don not think of it as fasting, its just a normal day for me.0 -
I.F. Intermittent Fasting and building lean muscle .. what are you thoughts..
I have been using I.F. for around 3 weeks now 16hr fast 4hr feed.. and i have dropped around 10 lbs and have dropped a nice amount of body fat .
I found that it works great and is a sustainable way to manage a calorie budget. Humans are designed for this and have been doing it since the beginning of time, both as hunter gatherers and for spiritual reasons. Almost all religions have a form of fasting.
When a pastor gave me a hard time about fasting for managing calories and weight loss I asked "Why is it okay to fast for spiritual reasons but not for weight loss?". They just stared at me like a deer in a headlight.
An excellent source for the science behind it is Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat. Just look at his web site and see his articles and qualifications. Awesome stuff there.
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I.F. Intermittent Fasting and building lean muscle .. what are you thoughts..
I have been using I.F. for around 3 weeks now 16hr fast 4hr feed.. and i have dropped around 10 lbs and have dropped a nice amount of body fat .
I found that it works great and is a sustainable way to manage a calorie budget. Humans are designed for this and have been doing it since the beginning of time, both as hunter gatherers and for spiritual reasons. Almost all religions have a form of fasting.
When a pastor gave me a hard time about fasting for managing calories and weight loss I asked "Why is it okay to fast for spiritual reasons but not for weight loss?". They just stared at me like a deer in a headlight.
An excellent source for the science behind it is Brad Pilon's Eat Stop Eat. Just look at his web site and see his articles and qualifications. Awesome stuff there.
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So since this thread started I decided to take this up just to try something different. I've been eating over 1700 cals in a 8 hr window. I've been doing some research and wanted to share some of what I found. I really recommend women interested in it read these, as some do not do well with it, this may explain it:
http://www.paleoforwomen.com/shattering-the-myth-of-fasting-for-women-a-review-of-female-specific-responses-to-fasting-in-the-literature/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/
http://freetheanimal.com/2012/06/no-ones-power-but-our-own-paleo-sexist-woes-and-an-invitation-to-rise-up-and-roar.html
Basiically, it gives the potential downfalls for being a girl doing intermediate fasting.
"One study, which I’ve cited before as evidence of a benefit to fasting, found that while IF improved insulin sensitivity in male subjects, female subjects saw no such improvement. In fact, the glucose tolerance of fasting women actually worsened. Ouch."
"Although both men and women displayed greater increases in VO2 max and resting muscle glycogen concentration in response to fasted cycling training, only men showed greater skeletal muscle adaptations when fasted. Women had better muscle adaptations when fed."
Also the rat studies were pretty interesting to read in the first link.
Over all though, I didn't see any blaring omg IF is bad for me info. In fact I found lots of it can be good for you info and I can think of several convenience issues where it is also good. It mentioned how only the female rats were emaciated but in my mind that's obviously because they weren't eating enough before and after the fast, not because they were IFing. I can't help but wonder if those who do not do well on it could change something in their eating habits or lifestyle so that it could potentially work, since before I started this site I couldn't go without breakfast and now it's considerably easy.0 -
its simple... u wanna lose weight?! ,,, STOP EATING
Starvation? Great advice.
Or did I not see the sarcasm font?0 -
I never heard of IF until I joined this site. I started it on yesterday. Delaying my first meal until 1:00 p.m. (after my mid-day workout) is relatively easy. If the weight, I mean, fat, actually "melts" away like others have claimed, this is something that I could definitely sustain. Stay tuned...0
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I fast every night between 10p and 7a ... it hasn't really done anything for me weight-loss-wise, but I've been doing it for so long I don't know any other way.0
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I love it. Went from 230-219 in a month. First week is killer but gotta keep at it. After that, you dont ever get hungry until your eating window is around the corner. Combined with 30 mins of cardio the fat drips off.0
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Try a 16-18 hr fast.I fast every night between 10p and 7a ... it hasn't really done anything for me weight-loss-wise, but I've been doing it for so long I don't know any other way.0 -
I never heard of IF until I joined this site. I started it on yesterday. Delaying my first meal until 1:00 p.m. (after my mid-day workout) is relatively easy. If the weight, I mean, fat, actually "melts" away like others have claimed, this is something that I could definitely sustain. Stay tuned...
I've never heard that fat "melts" away. This (IF) is not magic. You still need a caloric deficit.
But I really enjoy doing IF and have gotten great results but its just a part of a plan.
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Intermittent Fasting works really well for a lot of people (me included) as does Carb Cycling/Calorie Cycling for many reasons. it keeps the metabolism up, helps break through plateaus, allows you a lot of flexibility in your food choices and macronutrient breakdown, etc.
There is no "rule" that we have to eat "3 meals a day" and keep the same calorie intake daily to maintain a healthy diet or metabolism. Finding what works for us as individuals sometimes takes trying different methods.
This BS about going into "starvation mode" or risking "malnutrition" by varying your calories or macro/micronutrient intakes from day to day is just wrong. Believe me, people don't develop vit/min deficiencies and protein/energy malnutrition that easily.0 -
I've never actually tried IF but do a lot of reading on nutrition, weight loss and fitness just out of general interest. I stumbled accross this post that suggests that IF might not be that great or effective for women. It discusses a number of studies, although the literature is not comprehensive.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/
I'm neither for or against IF generally and think that people should do whatever works for them, I just thought I'd point this out for any females out there who are considering IF. I'm not even saying don't do it because anecdotal evidence suggests that it works amazingly for some women, just looking at this you shouldn't be surprised if it isn't for you. The more I learn the more I realise that trial and error with weight loss is the best approach. What works for one person won't work for another. Also a particular method may be the most effective thing ever scientifically but if you can't stick with it it'll never work for you. If after an IF you get so hungry that you can't work out or have to stuff your face or have problems sleeping etc It probably isn't for you.
Just my 2 cents for what it's worth0 -
See my post on previous page that also includes this linkI've never actually tried IF but do a lot of reading on nutrition, weight loss and fitness just out of general interest. I stumbled accross this post that suggests that IF might not be that great or effective for women. It discusses a number of studies, although the literature is not comprehensive.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/
I'm neither for or against IF generally and think that people should do whatever works for them, I just thought I'd point this out for any females out there who are considering IF. I'm not even saying don't do it because anecdotal evidence suggests that it works amazingly for some women, just looking at this you shouldn't be surprised if it isn't for you. The more I learn the more I realise that trial and error with weight loss is the best approach. What works for one person won't work for another. Also a particular method may be the most effective thing ever scientifically but if you can't stick with it it'll never work for you. If after an IF you get so hungry that you can't work out or have to stuff your face or have problems sleeping etc It probably isn't for you.
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I do it every day between 9-ish PM and 8-ish AM.0
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Intermittent Fasting works really well for a lot of people (me included) as does Carb Cycling/Calorie Cycling for many reasons. it keeps the metabolism up, helps break through plateaus, allows you a lot of flexibility in your food choices and macronutrient breakdown, etc.
There is no "rule" that we have to eat "3 meals a day" and keep the same calorie intake daily to maintain a healthy diet or metabolism. Finding what works for us as individuals sometimes takes trying different methods.
This BS about going into "starvation mode" or risking "malnutrition" by varying your calories or macro/micronutrient intakes from day to day is just wrong. Believe me, people don't develop vit/min deficiencies and protein/energy malnutrition that easily.
Please expand on 'many reasons'.
How does it keep the metabolism up? I've seen no proof of this
How does it break pleateaus? I've seen a lot of silly reasons of 'this broke my pleateau' but do we really know what caused it in each individual?0 -
To each his own.
I sometimes intermittent fast unintentionally. On a lazy Saturday I may not eat my first meal until 2pm or later. And days like that help tremendously with increasing my deficit for the week because I hardly even notice I skipped a meal.
But on weekdays when I'm busy, I need my three meals a day. But they're pretty much always eaten between 10am and 8pm. So I guess I do a 14hr intermittent fast every day?0 -
I've seen studies that say epinephrine and norepinephrine levels increase during fasting
for example
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1511.full0 -
Intermittent Fasting works really well for a lot of people (me included) as does Carb Cycling/Calorie Cycling for many reasons. it keeps the metabolism up, helps break through plateaus, allows you a lot of flexibility in your food choices and macronutrient breakdown, etc.
There is no "rule" that we have to eat "3 meals a day" and keep the same calorie intake daily to maintain a healthy diet or metabolism. Finding what works for us as individuals sometimes takes trying different methods.
This BS about going into "starvation mode" or risking "malnutrition" by varying your calories or macro/micronutrient intakes from day to day is just wrong. Believe me, people don't develop vit/min deficiencies and protein/energy malnutrition that easily.
Please expand on 'many reasons'.
How does it keep the metabolism up? I've seen no proof of this
How does it break pleateaus? I've seen a lot of silly reasons of 'this broke my pleateau' but do we really know what caused it in each individual?
Nah...I don't really feel like expanding on it. Feels too much like work. Suffice it to say, there is no one way to lose weight and be healthy. It's doesn't have to be as scientific as some people make it out to be. Within reason, a healthy lifestyle can be flexible and if IF helps one reach their goals than it can be used effectively. Don't over-think it.0 -
Intermittent Fasting works really well for a lot of people (me included) as does Carb Cycling/Calorie Cycling for many reasons. it keeps the metabolism up, helps break through plateaus, allows you a lot of flexibility in your food choices and macronutrient breakdown, etc.
There is no "rule" that we have to eat "3 meals a day" and keep the same calorie intake daily to maintain a healthy diet or metabolism. Finding what works for us as individuals sometimes takes trying different methods.
This BS about going into "starvation mode" or risking "malnutrition" by varying your calories or macro/micronutrient intakes from day to day is just wrong. Believe me, people don't develop vit/min deficiencies and protein/energy malnutrition that easily.
Please expand on 'many reasons'.
How does it keep the metabolism up? I've seen no proof of this
How does it break pleateaus? I've seen a lot of silly reasons of 'this broke my pleateau' but do we really know what caused it in each individual?
Nah...I don't really feel like expanding on it. Feels too much like work. Suffice it to say, there is no one way to lose weight and be healthy. It's doesn't have to be as scientific as some people make it out to be. Within reason, a healthy lifestyle can be flexible and if IF helps one reach their goals than it can be used effectively. Don't over-think it.
It's to much work to name a reason or 2 but not to type 6 sentences?0 -
I do an alternate day diet (JUDDD) wherein I consume very low, near-fasting calories one day, and regular calories the next, and just alternate. It works great and has been shown to have all kinds of other health benefits. It IS sustainable--I've been doing it for 10 and 1/2 months and have no desire to stop. It's also effective! I'm hypothyroid and have lost nearly 90 pounds since incorporating IF.
There are many different types of diets and as many different types of IF. I say, play around until you find what works for you.0 -
See my post on previous page that also includes this linkI've never actually tried IF but do a lot of reading on nutrition, weight loss and fitness just out of general interest. I stumbled accross this post that suggests that IF might not be that great or effective for women. It discusses a number of studies, although the literature is not comprehensive.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/
I'm neither for or against IF generally and think that people should do whatever works for them, I just thought I'd point this out for any females out there who are considering IF. I'm not even saying don't do it because anecdotal evidence suggests that it works amazingly for some women, just looking at this you shouldn't be surprised if it isn't for you. The more I learn the more I realise that trial and error with weight loss is the best approach. What works for one person won't work for another. Also a particular method may be the most effective thing ever scientifically but if you can't stick with it it'll never work for you. If after an IF you get so hungry that you can't work out or have to stuff your face or have problems sleeping etc It probably isn't for you.
Just my 2 cents for what it's worth
Ah must have missed your post, I confess I skimmed, just thought of this article and wanted to put the information out there0 -
See my post on previous page that also includes this linkI've never actually tried IF but do a lot of reading on nutrition, weight loss and fitness just out of general interest. I stumbled accross this post that suggests that IF might not be that great or effective for women. It discusses a number of studies, although the literature is not comprehensive.
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/
I'm neither for or against IF generally and think that people should do whatever works for them, I just thought I'd point this out for any females out there who are considering IF. I'm not even saying don't do it because anecdotal evidence suggests that it works amazingly for some women, just looking at this you shouldn't be surprised if it isn't for you. The more I learn the more I realise that trial and error with weight loss is the best approach. What works for one person won't work for another. Also a particular method may be the most effective thing ever scientifically but if you can't stick with it it'll never work for you. If after an IF you get so hungry that you can't work out or have to stuff your face or have problems sleeping etc It probably isn't for you.
Just my 2 cents for what it's worth
Ah must have missed your post, I confess I skimmed, just thought of this article and wanted to put the information out there
I figured I'd mention it since we both have similar outlooks (2 girls after reading studies are impartial about IF mentioning the same website Yay for informed fence sitting 
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I started last thursday and I can see a difference on my belly.... im doing the 16/8 and im loving it! not hungry at all!! but i do eat my calories! i will do this for a month and see what happens.... 0
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I've been reading about it and I'm going to give it a try I know a lot of people that fast reguraly for one reason or another there thin and healthy so there most be something good to it .more reading for me but will definitely be giving it a try0
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Day 5 since I've read this thread and decided to start doing IF. Figured I'd quote what I said on another IF thread to share with you guys:
*howl*I want to try the Lean Gains method...seems doable...I have fasted without intending to in the past but have always consumed an incredible amount of water, helping me feel satiated and not finding myself obsessing with the thought of food. Ideally, I want to aim for 1200 calorie consumption, 40 protein/40 carbs/20 fats and hope to drop body fat % and build muscle.
I'm unsure as to when my 8-hr eating period should be. I typically do Insanity workouts at 4:30 a.m., work from 8 to 5, and will be adding strength training to my routine 3x per week. Could someone give me a suggestion as to when I should be fasting?
Interesting you say that. So I use to be really good at drinking a impressive amount of water every day and for whatever reason when the semester started I started drinking 1 cup of coffee a day....and that was about it for liquids minus milk every so often...
Then after reading a thread like this one almost a week ago I was like hey I'm gonna try eating in a 8hr window (I believe that's all leangains is?) Well, since I switched to "IF" at about 9oclock every night I turn into a unquenchable thirst monster. The first night it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like wow, this is definitely something out of my normal and I haven't changed anything other then IF...I'm blaming this on IF...and I don't think it's a bad thing...it's making me drink the water that I stopped drinking completely. Then the second day came...same thing...9oclock and bam, thirst monster. the next etc etc anyway....it's quarter to 9... *glug glug glug*0
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