Abs on women?

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_lizzie_
_lizzie_ Posts: 130
edited January 3 in Fitness and Exercise
So I have a goal of having nice abs, like easily visible but not very cut. I've heard women will start to see abs at 18-19% body fat. Has this been true in your experience? I think I can see mine just barely, the line down the center is pretty visible, and if I turn to the side you can see a bump where the bottom of the top ab is, but not from straight on like in my ticker pic. Does this mean Im pretty close to that? Could I be like 1-2% away from seeing them easily? Also, just for curiosities sake, how many guys out there are into this? Thanks for the opinions!
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  • ToughTulip
    ToughTulip Posts: 1,118 Member
    It depends honestly. I got VERY lean and still couldn't see my abs, just a flat stomach. So body fat % number will be different based on your LBM
  • EatClean_WashUrNuts
    EatClean_WashUrNuts Posts: 1,590 Member
    It depends honestly. I got VERY lean and still couldn't see my abs, just a flat stomach. So body fat % number will be different based on your LBM

    100% dead on...it's not just BF% for the abs... Lean Body Mass is essential in conjunction.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    It really depends on where you store your fat and how big your ab muscles are. I store my fat on my legs and probably have big ab muscles so yeah, I have a hint of abs at like 23% body fat.

    But sounds like you are close.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    Also, just for curiosities sake, how many guys out there are into this?

    *raises hand*
  • HeidiMightyRawr
    HeidiMightyRawr Posts: 3,343 Member
    I got to 17% once but couldn't see them at all, I just had a reasonably flat stomach. Most of the fat I did have was on my stomach (as it is now) and I don't think I had enough muscle there either.

    I'm on my second bulk since then so hopefully have added enough muscle to see some abs next time I cut (I didn't cut down to a low enough body fat % last time) Long term I'm aiming for visible abs (4 or 6 pack) but nothing too hardcore. I don't want to see every bit of them even when I'm relaxed, but I'd love a fair amount of definition when relaxed, and them to be very defined when tensed.

    I couldn't care less what guys think about it. I'm here for me, and I want abs. So I will get myself some abs (eventually) There's always going to be guys out there that like them, and there's always going to be some that don't. Find one that likes what you like :)
  • Plates559
    Plates559 Posts: 869 Member
    Also, just for curiosities sake, how many guys out there are into this?

    Boner town!
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    Also, just for curiosities sake, how many guys out there are into this?

    Boner town!

    ha, I almost spit my water out
  • _lizzie_
    _lizzie_ Posts: 130
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    Thank you, that is a very helpful chart! From these pics though, I think the 17-18 percent girl actually looks leaner than Id like to be...Not that she isn't attractive, she is, but she just isnt what I was going for. I think 20-22% there looks more like it...guess Im not quite there. I feel like Im in between the next one and that one though, Im getting there, yay!
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    I couldn't care less what guys think about it. I'm here for me, and I want abs. So I will get myself some abs (eventually) There's always going to be guys out there that like them, and there's always going to be some that don't. Find one that likes what you like :)

    This too.
  • Lift_hard_eat_big
    Lift_hard_eat_big Posts: 2,278 Member
    So I have a goal of having nice abs, like easily visible but not very cut. I've heard women will start to see abs at 18-19% body fat. Has this been true in your experience? I think I can see mine just barely, the line down the center is pretty visible, and if I turn to the side you can see a bump where the bottom of the top ab is, but not from straight on like in my ticker pic. Does this mean Im pretty close to that? Could I be like 1-2% away from seeing them easily? Also, just for curiosities sake, how many guys out there are into this? Thanks for the opinions!

    I don't find women with ripped abs nearly as attractive as a woman with a flat firm core.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    Thank you, that is a very helpful chart! From these pics though, I think the 17-18 percent girl actually looks leaner than Id like to be...Not that she isn't attractive, she is, but she just isnt what I was going for. I think 20-22% there looks more like it...guess Im not quite there. I feel like Im in between the next one and that one though, Im getting there, yay!

    You probably are there, you just don't have enough lean body mass (i.e. your muscles are not big enough to show at that body fat level). I'd recommend getting into heavy lifting if you aren't already.
  • _lizzie_
    _lizzie_ Posts: 130
    I got to 17% once but couldn't see them at all, I just had a reasonably flat stomach. Most of the fat I did have was on my stomach (as it is now) and I don't think I had enough muscle there either.

    I'm on my second bulk since then so hopefully have added enough muscle to see some abs next time I cut (I didn't cut down to a low enough body fat % last time) Long term I'm aiming for visible abs (4 or 6 pack) but nothing too hardcore. I don't want to see every bit of them even when I'm relaxed, but I'd love a fair amount of definition when relaxed, and them to be very defined when tensed.

    I couldn't care less what guys think about it. I'm here for me, and I want abs. So I will get myself some abs (eventually) There's always going to be guys out there that like them, and there's always going to be some that don't. Find one that likes what you like :)

    Oh Im still going for it, no matter what guys say. Im into it :happy: Just curious, like I said. Its interesting what you say though, about getting down to 17% and not seeing them. Im mostly liting now, and trying to focus on eating a lot of protein and just lifting more. I was thinking of cutting later...it sounds like if I just cut now (which I was tempted to do, going to a beach for winter vacation!) I might not see them because not enough muscle?
  • _lizzie_
    _lizzie_ Posts: 130
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    Thank you, that is a very helpful chart! From these pics though, I think the 17-18 percent girl actually looks leaner than Id like to be...Not that she isn't attractive, she is, but she just isnt what I was going for. I think 20-22% there looks more like it...guess Im not quite there. I feel like Im in between the next one and that one though, Im getting there, yay!

    You probably are there, you just don't have enough lean body mass (i.e. your muscles are not big enough to show at that body fat level). I'd recommend getting into heavy lifting if you aren't already.

    Im a slow typer, just saw this haha. I do stronglifts, I was kind of stalling though...Im going to deload next workout.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
    You have to have the abs to be able to see them. Just getting really thin won't make something you don't have show. It takes a lot of work to lean out and build the muscles so they are visible. At 19% BF I have a 4 pack but it's nothing to get excited about yet.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    Thank you, that is a very helpful chart! From these pics though, I think the 17-18 percent girl actually looks leaner than Id like to be...Not that she isn't attractive, she is, but she just isnt what I was going for. I think 20-22% there looks more like it...guess Im not quite there. I feel like Im in between the next one and that one though, Im getting there, yay!

    That 35% women has a beautiful body. I think it depends on where the fat is carried. If I look like that at 35% then I'll be happy. I have no idea what my body fat percentage was when I was young and fit.
  • _lizzie_
    _lizzie_ Posts: 130
    You have to have the abs to be able to see them. Just getting really thin won't make something you don't have show. It takes a lot of work to lean out and build the muscles so they are visible. At 19% BF I have a 4 pack but it's nothing to get excited about yet.

    What? Nothing to get excited about! Im excited about a little line down the center :laugh: My ticker pics are a reminder of what I need to work on just as much as being proud though...I would be def. happy with a 4 pack!

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  • Yanicka1
    Yanicka1 Posts: 4,564 Member
    I went down to 16-17% without seeing my abs. One of the reson why I am doing a bulk right now.
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    Thank you, that is a very helpful chart! From these pics though, I think the 17-18 percent girl actually looks leaner than Id like to be...Not that she isn't attractive, she is, but she just isnt what I was going for. I think 20-22% there looks more like it...guess Im not quite there. I feel like Im in between the next one and that one though, Im getting there, yay!

    You probably are there, you just don't have enough lean body mass (i.e. your muscles are not big enough to show at that body fat level). I'd recommend getting into heavy lifting if you aren't already.

    Im a slow typer, just saw this haha. I do stronglifts, I was kind of stalling though...Im going to deload next workout.

    Well you might consider bulking for the winter. It'll build some nice lean body mass AND help you build your strength with StrongLifts. (Although Stronglifts isn't exactly a "bulking" program, it'll work.)
  • DrMAvDPhD
    DrMAvDPhD Posts: 2,097 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.
    You know, in case your only reason for wanting them was to impress men. :huh:
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.
    You know, in case your only reason for wanting them was to impress men. :huh:

    The same reason so many women buy better boobs. You can't buy better abs.
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    :grumble:
  • DrMAvDPhD
    DrMAvDPhD Posts: 2,097 Member
    Here is a chart with pictures to gauge by:
    http://www.builtlean.com/2012/09/24/body-fat-percentage-men-women/

    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.
    You know, in case your only reason for wanting them was to impress men. :huh:

    The same reason so many women buy better boobs. You can't buy better abs.

    Some women buy them for confidence. If mine start sagging, I'm fixing them. And I'm happily married. I look good for me just as much if not more than for my husband.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    :grumble:

    The OP asked. I stated the obvious. I have never heard a guy say about any woman "look at those abs", but I certainly hear "look at those tits". *shrug* Your mileage may vary.
  • maillemaker
    maillemaker Posts: 1,253 Member
    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    I'm sure all guys are different, but to me, big boobs usually come with a big gut. I'd rather have no boobs and a flat stomach. And that includes on myself! :)
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    :grumble:

    The OP asked. I stated the obvious. I have never heard a guy say about any woman "look at those abs", but I certainly hear "look at those tits". *shrug* Your mileage may vary.

    While not untrue, your statement still annoys me. (And I'm annoyed at the men / evolutionary preferences that make it true, not you). Boobs are given by nature. Abs are earned. Abs should be more attractive damn it! And yes, I'm totally just saying that because I have small boobs.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    I'm sure all guys are different, but to me, big boobs usually come with a big gut. I'd rather have no boobs and a flat stomach. And that includes on myself! :)

    I didn't say big either. I think they are interested in them all.
  • spangey13
    spangey13 Posts: 294
    When I was about 19 I had 11% body fat (I'm sure the machine was broken). Even then I didn't have abs. I might spray paint some on.
  • _lizzie_
    _lizzie_ Posts: 130
    In my experience, men are more interested in your boobs than your stomach, unless the guy is really into fitness then abs might matter.

    I'm sure all guys are different, but to me, big boobs usually come with a big gut. I'd rather have no boobs and a flat stomach. And that includes on myself! :)

    Even though this is slightly off my topic, I totally agree. I have always had big boobs, and Im trading them in for a smaller stomach!
  • _lizzie_
    _lizzie_ Posts: 130
    When I was about 19 I had 11% body fat (I'm sure the machine was broken). Even then I didn't have abs. I might spray paint some on.

    lol! I should just do that, who needs all this hard work:wink:
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