Low Carb vs Low Fat?
jeninabilan
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So I have been doing a low carb/high protein diet and have gotten some pretty awesome results from it. Recently, I've had a lot of people mention that low fat is "healthier" due to the amount of fats in many meats... Thoughts?
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Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?0
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Calories in Calories out right! Do what works for you ... but I'm going to keep an eye on this post it's gonna get crazy0
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Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..0 -
Calories in Calories out right! Do what works for you ... but I'm going to keep an eye on this post it's gonna get crazy
Sorry, it is not as simple as calories in, calories out. If it were, I would have never gained weight in the first place.
OP: unless you are eating a lot of canola oil and other vegetable / seed oils the fat is not unhealthy.
Saturated and Monosaturated fats are natural occurring and do NOT contribute to heart disease or high cholesterol. The whole low fat myth was an outright lie and the data was cherry picked to support their theory to lead up to what we see today. Major health issues and obesity. This didn't happen on accident with our society.0 -
Calories in Calories out right! Do what works for you ... but I'm going to keep an eye on this post it's gonna get crazy
Sorry, it is not as simple as calories in, calories out. If it were, I would have never gained weight in the first place.
OP: unless you are eating a lot of canola oil and other vegetable / seed oils the fat is not unhealthy.
Saturated and Monosaturated fats are natural occurring and do NOT contribute to heart disease or high cholesterol. The whole low fat myth was an outright lie and the data was cherry picked to support their theory to lead up to what we see today. Major health issues and obesity. This didn't happen on accident with our society.
Very helpful!!! Thanks
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I'm not a fan of 'low' anything or restrictive diets. I'd rather eat foods I like in moderation, throw in some fruits and veggies, make sure I'm getting enough protein and exercise. Simple and sustainable for me.0
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So I have been doing a low carb/high protein diet and have gotten some pretty awesome results from it. Recently, I've had a lot of people mention that low fat is "healthier" due to the amount of fats in many meats... Thoughts?
Yup, been there and done that. Diets like those are not sustainable and I found they hurt me in the long run, delayed my success.
These were the diets I tried and failed and did the diet yo-yo with for 15 years:
Low fat high carb, Slim-Fast, Weight Watchers, Atkins, Organic, Weston Price Diet, The Schwarzbein Principle, Eat Fat Lose Fat, The Ultimate PH Solution, The Makers Diet, A friends diet from a personal trainer/dietician
I finally just got sick of it all and made up my own diet with healthy foods I enjoy and smaller portions. I ate my meals from small desert plates and bowls. I stopped eating in the evenings (not that when you eat matters.) I started calling what I did mini-meals and mini-fasts and I lost 40 lbs. Then I found Eat Stop Eat and learned why it worked and everything took off for me at that point.
Eat what you want, eat what you like, mostly healthy. Don’t deprive yourself of foods you love unless there is a serious health risk. Depriving yourself of food you love and creating extensive good food and bad food lists at some point borders on a mental disorder. It will drive you insane.0 -
fat is an essential nutrient
carbohydrate is not
people lose weight an all sorts of diets, just by eating less calories.
take that fwiw0 -
Calories in Calories out right! Do what works for you ... but I'm going to keep an eye on this post it's gonna get crazy
Sorry, it is not as simple as calories in, calories out. If it were, I would have never gained weight in the first place.
OP: unless you are eating a lot of canola oil and other vegetable / seed oils the fat is not unhealthy.
Saturated and Monosaturated fats are natural occurring and do NOT contribute to heart disease or high cholesterol. The whole low fat myth was an outright lie and the data was cherry picked to support their theory to lead up to what we see today. Major health issues and obesity. This didn't happen on accident with our society.
Seriously couldn't have said it better myself. :bigsmile:0 -
I'm not a fan of 'low' anything or restrictive diets. I'd rather eat foods I like in moderation, throw in some fruits and veggies, make sure I'm getting enough protein and exercise. Simple and sustainable for me.
I am the same0 -
I'm not a fan of 'low' anything or restrictive diets. I'd rather eat foods I like in moderation, throw in some fruits and veggies, make sure I'm getting enough protein and exercise. Simple and sustainable for me.
Unfortunately, this just does not work for me.. It's the reason I've stayed the same weight FOREVER... I wish it worked for me! lol Maybe it's because I still have a large amount left to lose..0 -
Hmm..why must you do either? How about a Nice 40/40/20 split..or 40/30/30?0
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I'm not a fan of 'low' anything or restrictive diets. I'd rather eat foods I like in moderation, throw in some fruits and veggies, make sure I'm getting enough protein and exercise. Simple and sustainable for me.
I am the same
Ditto!0 -
Calories in Calories out right! Do what works for you ... but I'm going to keep an eye on this post it's gonna get crazy
Sorry, it is not as simple as calories in, calories out. If it were, I would have never gained weight in the first place.
OP: unless you are eating a lot of canola oil and other vegetable / seed oils the fat is not unhealthy.
Saturated and Monosaturated fats are natural occurring and do NOT contribute to heart disease or high cholesterol. The whole low fat myth was an outright lie and the data was cherry picked to support their theory to lead up to what we see today. Major health issues and obesity. This didn't happen on accident with our society.
So the laws of thermodynamics do not apply to you?0 -
I'm not a fan of 'low' anything or restrictive diets. I'd rather eat foods I like in moderation, throw in some fruits and veggies, make sure I'm getting enough protein and exercise. Simple and sustainable for me.
I am the same
Ditto!
I ditto the ditto!0 -
Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..
Just a thought for you OP... the quicker it comes off, the quicker it comes back on when you start eating "normally" again. A small deficit, without really restricting much of anything, would be best. It will get you there slower, but it will be sustainable and the results will stick. Patience is so important in this journey.
And start strength training too!0 -
Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..
Just a thought for you OP... the quicker it comes off, the quicker it comes back on when you start eating "normally" again. A small deficit, without really restricting much of anything, would be best. It will get you there slower, but it will be sustainable and the results will stick. Patience is so important in this journey.
And start strength training too!
YES!!!!!0 -
Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..
Just a thought for you OP... the quicker it comes off, the quicker it comes back on when you start eating "normally" again. A small deficit, without really restricting much of anything, would be best. It will get you there slower, but it will be sustainable and the results will stick. Patience is so important in this journey.
And start strength training too!
Again...this doesn't work for all of us. A "cookie cutter" approach isn't always going to work for everyone.0 -
Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..
Just a thought for you OP... the quicker it comes off, the quicker it comes back on when you start eating "normally" again. A small deficit, without really restricting much of anything, would be best. It will get you there slower, but it will be sustainable and the results will stick. Patience is so important in this journey.
And start strength training too!
Again...this doesn't work for all of us. A "cookie cutter" approach isn't always going to work for everyone.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/715411-you-are-not-different?hl=special+snowflake
you are not different.0 -
the MFP app has changed the way I look at food and what goes into my mouth (stomach).
It is SOO easy to pack your pie hole with crappy food to make up your daily calories, but much more thought and awareness goes into eating what you need to eat with healthy food.
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Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..
Just a thought for you OP... the quicker it comes off, the quicker it comes back on when you start eating "normally" again. A small deficit, without really restricting much of anything, would be best. It will get you there slower, but it will be sustainable and the results will stick. Patience is so important in this journey.
And start strength training too!
Again...this doesn't work for all of us. A "cookie cutter" approach isn't always going to work for everyone.
That might be true; however, overly restrictive diets are less effective for many more people than this "cookie cutter" approach.0 -
I've found low-nothing seems to work well. Eat all the food! Find a macro nutrient balance that works for you and stick with it.0
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I'm not a fan of 'low' anything or restrictive diets. I'd rather eat foods I like in moderation, throw in some fruits and veggies, make sure I'm getting enough protein and exercise. Simple and sustainable for me.
I am the same
Ditto!
I ditto the ditto!
Did I just ditto the ditto that was dittoed? I think so.0 -
:laugh: :flowerforyou:Question... If what you are doing is working, why do you want to change it?
I guess I am impatient and want faster results.. even though that wouldn't be healthy because I'm already losing what's recommended.. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I'm a nerd and need to stop being impatient.. haha but I am just curious. Also, I love love love fruits, but they tend to be high in carbs..
Just a thought for you OP... the quicker it comes off, the quicker it comes back on when you start eating "normally" again. A small deficit, without really restricting much of anything, would be best. It will get you there slower, but it will be sustainable and the results will stick. Patience is so important in this journey.
And start strength training too!
Again...this doesn't work for all of us. A "cookie cutter" approach isn't always going to work for everyone.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/715411-you-are-not-different?hl=special+snowflake
you are not different.0 -
Moderation = excuse0
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Not everyone needs an excuse for eating the food they enjoy.Moderation = excuse0 -
So I have been doing a low carb/high protein diet and have gotten some pretty awesome results from it. Recently, I've had a lot of people mention that low fat is "healthier" due to the amount of fats in many meats... Thoughts?
Yup, been there and done that. Diets like those are not sustainable and I found they hurt me in the long run, delayed my success.
These were the diets I tried and failed and did the diet yo-yo with for 15 years:
Low fat high carb, Slim-Fast, Weight Watchers, Atkins, Organic, Weston Price Diet, The Schwarzbein Principle, Eat Fat Lose Fat, The Ultimate PH Solution, The Makers Diet, A friends diet from a personal trainer/dietician
I finally just got sick of it all and made up my own diet with healthy foods I enjoy and smaller portions. I ate my meals from small desert plates and bowls. I stopped eating in the evenings (not that when you eat matters.) I started calling what I did mini-meals and mini-fasts and I lost 40 lbs. Then I found Eat Stop Eat and learned why it worked and everything took off for me at that point.
Eat what you want, eat what you like, mostly healthy. Don’t deprive yourself of foods you love unless there is a serious health risk. Depriving yourself of food you love and creating extensive good food and bad food lists at some point borders on a mental disorder. It will drive you insane.
Can you explain your experience with EatStopEat? I've been doing research and I may try it!0 -
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/781231-what-are-yourthought-on-intermittent-fastingSo I have been doing a low carb/high protein diet and have gotten some pretty awesome results from it. Recently, I've had a lot of people mention that low fat is "healthier" due to the amount of fats in many meats... Thoughts?
Yup, been there and done that. Diets like those are not sustainable and I found they hurt me in the long run, delayed my success.
These were the diets I tried and failed and did the diet yo-yo with for 15 years:
Low fat high carb, Slim-Fast, Weight Watchers, Atkins, Organic, Weston Price Diet, The Schwarzbein Principle, Eat Fat Lose Fat, The Ultimate PH Solution, The Makers Diet, A friends diet from a personal trainer/dietician
I finally just got sick of it all and made up my own diet with healthy foods I enjoy and smaller portions. I ate my meals from small desert plates and bowls. I stopped eating in the evenings (not that when you eat matters.) I started calling what I did mini-meals and mini-fasts and I lost 40 lbs. Then I found Eat Stop Eat and learned why it worked and everything took off for me at that point.
Eat what you want, eat what you like, mostly healthy. Don’t deprive yourself of foods you love unless there is a serious health risk. Depriving yourself of food you love and creating extensive good food and bad food lists at some point borders on a mental disorder. It will drive you insane.
Can you explain your experience with EatStopEat? I've been doing research and I may try it!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/784066-questions-about-intermittent-fasting
I read the first one and grew tired of a bunch of ignorant people saying stupid things on both sides without any real explinations or science and decided to try it myself after reading that first thread 5 days ago. I've been doing 8hr window 16 hr fast. No reason at all other then curiosity. Quite the dramatic change from what I was doing. It started as just a thing I could try while my bf was on vacation but I'm actually growing rather attached to it. You may want to read up on these little enemies though:
http://phys.org/news170688849.html
This is the only temporary downfall I've had with it so far over my short time I've had with it. Basically, your body keeps track of when food is available, and if you decide to stop eating during those times, the body tells you there's food. I've been feeling hungry at odd hours and I absolutely hate the hungry feeling. But after the short 5 days I've had with fasting the hunger feelings have gone away. I've been netting 1700 calories before and during IF.
Does it do any magic make the fat fall off you tricks? Haven't seen a smidge of a difference yet measurement wise or weight wise. I think my mind is playing tricks on me though because I 'feel' skinnier, and it seems to have that affect on everyone since people will say it after a very short period of time without measuring themselves. But I still recommend people try it who are willing for other reasons. The science of the benefits behind it, convenience, my energy levels while already marked as hyper seem to have increased, I have a better sense of what my body needs I think....
And that brings me to the only difference I've felt other then the effects time on ghrelin (see phys link above). After hardly drinking any water for a month really realizing I had stopped, as soon as I started IF every night at about 9oclock I've become incredibly thirsty...and then it dawns on me that I haven't drank anything. Thanks IF, for keeping me hydrated.
As for research what I've found negative with IF is explained in these links:
http://www.paleoforwomen.com/shattering-the-myth-of-fasting-for-women-a-review-of-female-specific-responses-to-fasting-in-the-literature/
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/women-and-intermittent-fasting/0 -
Thanks for all of the amazing feedback guys! I am a VERY extreme/all or nothing person.. If you tell me I can have "some" pasta, I will eat all of it.. lol So for me, it's very important to set rules and boundaries and not allow myself to have "everything I want". Its not that I think I'm "different" physically or biologically, it's that I know my strength and weaknesses mentally and emotionally and the whole everything in moderation thing does NOT work for me.. I wish it did! hehe 0
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That's really great, thank you so much for all the information! I'm going to keep doing research, but it seems like this is something I can maintain. I should be able to kick out binges with it! Fingers crossed : )0
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