new york marathon... why not do the right thing?
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I agree with you...I am torn on the issue as well. I get it that people have trained and trained for this race and to postpone this would also be a devastating loss of income. I agree that life goes on as well despite a tragedy.
But the other side is that the resources used for this race needs to go towards those victims such as the fire and police protection, the EMTs, the generators used. I see on the various news programs and shows that NYorkers are pissed this is still going on, but obviously Bloomberg is making the choice to do it, so I guess the show goes on.0 -
I've been through a natural disaster. And while I welcomed distractions, I remember the one thing that really pissed me off during that time was outsiders coming into the area just to look, or other people giving their opinions what we should or shouldn't be doing. In other words, if your *kitten* wasn't there to help get life back to normal...get your *kitten* out and shut up.
I'm not a NYer affected by the storm so I'll just say this. I think it would be tragic for recources to be diverted away from the clean-up to facilitate a marathon where 45,000 outsiders will be decending upon a logisticly strapped area. If the NYC Government thinks they have enough recources to carry out the marathon without affecting those that need help. I'm fine with that, but it's up to the local citizens to make sure their government is being honest with them.0 -
I am also torn on the issue. In one instance you train work hard and look forward to a marathon being a marathoner myself but respect for the folks in NY and the devastation also needs to be a high priority. The one thing I can say is that it will bring money to the city and hopefully people will donate to the cause. It also may be a good thing for the economy and like many said life goes on. But I am very on the fence with the issue. The only think I can think of is the economy and the people will hopefully make donations to the disaster. It is an awful situation and I guess the thought is to try and make the best of it. I also heard that ING is donating marathon proceeds to the clean up. That is hear say and not sure if it is true.
To all those on this thread living in NY and NJ my heart goes out to you.0 -
People from all over work hard just to try and qualify to be able to run that marathon, if anything it's going to be a revenue boost, which is what is needed as well
No, what is needed is the police/emt/fire fighters that are currently working to help people that need it. Not to take them away from that, to support the marathon.0 -
I'd be so mad if I trained for NYC marathon all year and it was cancelled! Especially if I did it with a charity partner and raised over $3,500. Life has to go on - and the marathon is something that's always united New Yorkers. Maybe they should postpone it, but not cancel it.0
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I agree that it should NOT be held. WHY? My ex is a paramedic for NYCFD. Right now, it is all hands on deck. Everyone is working extra shifts, just as they did when the Towers came down. If they don't have a run, or they are working on their off-time, they are out there helping those in need. Be it cooking for those without power, shifting through the wreckage, or treating minor wounds...cuts, sprains, etc.
So now that they ARE doing the marathon, they are getting pulled from helping those in need, and having to be at the marathon for those who might be hurt.
I think anyone runner with a heart, would understand if it was called off. NYC is in crisis mode right now.0 -
People from all over work hard just to try and qualify to be able to run that marathon, if anything it's going to be a revenue boost, which is what is needed as well
No, what is needed is the police/emt/fire fighters that are currently working to help people that need it. Not to take them away from that, to support the marathon.
AMEN!!!!0 -
People don't like the marathon on any city. London, NYC it's always the same complaint - why should we disturb our lives for the hoards of outsiders. The marathoners worked very hard for that day why should they be disturbed ? Because people are starving ? really ? who on this thread isn't starving !? we're not talking about a marathon in somalia here.0
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the money being generated will help pay all the responders/agenices helping
quit acting like its evil to hold this thing...it's a few hours and the benefits of holding it outweigh the costs
it's all economics in the end0 -
As a non American I always think of the USA as a country who has such a strong life goes on attitude to events and situations such as this and ive always thought oh how wonderful but after reading all these posts I think its time someone said "how about we just focus on the most improtant things and not pretend we can overcome everything in a week"0
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This was written on Facebook, by my ex...a paramedic for NYC. This is what someone working the trenches has to say...
This is for all the Marathon Runners,
Since the storm came and left its devastation, and people dying without power,food,supplies,or a house,
is it worth it to run a race directly around all of that and still think you'll be a winner at the finish line.....let you conscience be your answer..? I know what mine would be..I ask you please boycott the race,not for me for the people who need help.0 -
the money being generated will help pay all the responders/agenices helping
quit acting like its evil to hold this thing...it's a few hours and the benefits of holding it outweigh the costs
it's all economics in the end
Do you know that on the day of the race, security and transportation begins at 4am? There are many waves, with the last one going out at 9 or 10. I would be willing to bet the very last runner will come in around 230 or 3pm? Plus, the finish line and after party, and getting everyone out of there. You're looking at 14-16 hours just on race day ALONE. It's not just a few hours.
It's not evil to hold the race, but there are also bigger things in life then a marathon. & right now it's helping people in a city that need it..0 -
If you are wanting to run and think that your money is gonna help those in need. STAY home and donate the money you would have spent to the Red Cross or buy food and supplies and donate them to an agency in your area that is sending supplies to NYC. Don't get in the way of those who are really working to help those in need. Have a HEART!!0
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the money being generated will help pay all the responders/agenices helping
quit acting like its evil to hold this thing...it's a few hours and the benefits of holding it outweigh the costs
it's all economics in the end
Do you know that on the day of the race, security and transportation begins at 4am? There are many waves, with the last one going out at 9 or 10. I would be willing to bet the very last runner will come in around 230 or 3pm? Plus, the finish line and after party, and getting everyone out of there. You're looking at 14-16 hours just on race day ALONE. It's not just a few hours.
It's not evil to hold the race, but there are also bigger things in life then a marathon. & right now it's helping people in a city that need it..
ya...like I said, I few hours
and why act like its shutting down the whole state? good lord...the money is needed much more than the hassle and I am sure the Mayor let that fact play a huge role in his decision0 -
the money being generated will help pay all the responders/agenices helping
quit acting like its evil to hold this thing...it's a few hours and the benefits of holding it outweigh the costs
it's all economics in the end
Do you know that on the day of the race, security and transportation begins at 4am? There are many waves, with the last one going out at 9 or 10. I would be willing to bet the very last runner will come in around 230 or 3pm? Plus, the finish line and after party, and getting everyone out of there. You're looking at 14-16 hours just on race day ALONE. It's not just a few hours.
It's not evil to hold the race, but there are also bigger things in life then a marathon. & right now it's helping people in a city that need it..
ya...like I said, I few hours
and why act like its shutting down the whole state? good lord...the money is needed much more than the hassle and I am sure the Mayor let that fact play a huge role in his decision
I think we will agree to disagree on this one.0 -
the money being generated will help pay all the responders/agenices helping
quit acting like its evil to hold this thing...it's a few hours and the benefits of holding it outweigh the costs
it's all economics in the end
Do you know that on the day of the race, security and transportation begins at 4am? There are many waves, with the last one going out at 9 or 10. I would be willing to bet the very last runner will come in around 230 or 3pm? Plus, the finish line and after party, and getting everyone out of there. You're looking at 14-16 hours just on race day ALONE. It's not just a few hours.
It's not evil to hold the race, but there are also bigger things in life then a marathon. & right now it's helping people in a city that need it..
ya...like I said, I few hours
and why act like its shutting down the whole state? good lord...the money is needed much more than the hassle and I am sure the Mayor let that fact play a huge role in his decision
I think we will agree to disagree on this one.
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I have an idea.......take the runners, give them the Red Cross meals and any meals that are being prepared for the eldrerly, and have them run the 15 ,20, 25 floors to get to them in these freezing high rise buildings that are with out power. Also, they could check in on them and see if they can help in any way......these folks are in their 70s, 80s with NO one there to help.....anyone , anyone that can walk can be a benefit in the smallest way..............
the elderly can not climb 15 or 20 floors, they are cold, with out power, with out medication and they need help.........plus, if you use the Police for the relay, you are taking that many officers off the streets that are so desparately needed NOW
I went thru one hurricane in Houston, no power for 3 weeks.......it was hell, and Im a lot younger than these trapped senior citizens.......put the resources to work........
work with local shelters and food banks to distribute food to those who are in such dire needs
next year have the race, only after the elderly and sick are back to normal.....
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I just saw a story on this on ESPN and I knew it would be a volatile topice here on MFP.
If it were in my city, I would want the Mayor to postpone it.0 -
I have spent the past four, five days without electricity, with little food or water or heat. It has been awful, but NOTHING compared to what the people in New York and New Jersey have gone through, with losing their homes, family members, all of their belongings...some of those people in the big cities are trapped in their apartments with no food or heat and are injured. They can't get out to get what they need and they probably don't have a way to contact help. The generators that are being used to cook food for the runners could be used to help those people. They have pallets full of Gatorade and water just sitting there for the runners...that could be used for the people who are in need.
The marathon can wait awhile; the supplies being used for the marathon should go to the people that need them.0 -
and why act like its shutting down the whole state? good lord...the money is needed much more than the hassle and I am sure the Mayor let that fact play a huge role in his decision
So what about the people who LIVE there, staying hotels because their homes are destroyed. It's no big deal for them to go out on the street in the cold for a day or two so 45,000 visitors can come run a marathon right?
And no big deal that police, EMS and fire are trying to get people safe, just take them off the job and have them supervise a race... :noway:0 -
I was a bit surprised when I heard the race was still going on, but I think overall i am for that. I am sure most of the runners do not live in NY so they have already purchased plane tickets that they won't get money back from if the race is cancelled. Also the influx of money to the businesses is crucial. And money has been pledged to help NYC from the proceeds of the race. And it is an event to bring people together and give everyone something to cheer about. I am sure when we see it on TV, I have no doubt any story will include a phone number for people to call to donate money on their own. So run on!0
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Should have been rescheduled for MONTHS from now at the very least. Resources that could be MUCH better used elsewhere.
I think it's ridiculous and frivolous and it actually makes me angry.0 -
It's appalling to keep the race going on schedule...
The amount of resources...money...police etc that goes into making it happen should be focused on people who are without power, underwater, and possibly hurt. It's a friggan race, people.0 -
There are always people eating out of dumpsters, without homes, without power. Always. All over the world. Why should anyone ever hold or run a marathon?
Or do those people not matter as much as someone who had a home, food, and power a week ago but doesn't now?
^^ This.0 -
It's appalling to keep the race going on schedule...
The amount of resources...money...police etc that goes into making it happen should be focused on people who are without power, underwater, and possibly hurt. It's a friggan race, people.
that "friggin" race will generate 300 MILLION dollars to help the efforts
it's really an easy decision..............generate 300 million dollars or not0 -
Here is a complete list of those agencies who will be helping with the marathon.
This is the list of resources being used for the Marathon. Take a good look, and examine your consciences, do you really need these more than people that lost everything 7 days prior, and still have to deal with hyopthermia? OFFICIAL AGENCIES
NYC Parks and Recreation
City Parks Foundation
Central Park Conservancy
Department of Buildings
Department of Environmental
Protection
Department of Sanitation
Department of Transportation
FDNY
FDNY/EMS
Mayor’s Office of Citywide Event
Coordination & Management
Mayor’s Office of Film Theater
& Broadcasting
MTA
TBTA – MTA Bridges & Tunnels
State of New York
National Parks Service
NYC Department of Education
NYC Department of Health
& Mental Hygiene
NYC Sports Commission
NYPD Port Authority of New York
& New Jersey
US Parks Police
US Coast Guard
US Army Reserve
ARRL Ham Radio Operators0 -
It's appalling to keep the race going on schedule...
The amount of resources...money...police etc that goes into making it happen should be focused on people who are without power, underwater, and possibly hurt. It's a friggan race, people.
that "friggin" race will generate 300 MILLION dollars to help the efforts
it's really an easy decision..............generate 300 million dollars or not
It isn't an easy decision. Look at the agencies I posted. Those without food, electricity, and shelter could really use the people to help them. If those coming to NYC for the race had a heart and skipped it then donate the money they would have spent to local agencies...we would be much better off. I have strong ties to NYC, family and friends. Everyone who lives anywhere near the city is total against the race. There are to many people going with the basics right now.0 -
Being from NY... HELL YES they should of postponed it, they are still rescuing people, they are still finding bodies of loved ones, the power is not back on in the direct and neighboring areas where the marathon is to be held,there are still areas flooded, the marathon its a huge event, it makes alot of money for the city but they had plenty of time before the storm and in the day or two after to perhaps move it two weeks or into early december before we got snow, hold it in the spring if need be. Its just too soon, the damage is raw and still being delt with, NYers are tough but we also have heart, the rest of the world needs to grow a heart as well and be sensitive to those in need and who are hurting, the world in its raw savage form will go on but as human beings we should be held to a higher standard, period. Not to mention adding a huge burden to an already devistated grief stricten area! Go celebrate your marathon win, if you can without looking around you at those standing nearby mourning their loss, people should carry on, we here on the internet are carrying on, but not so disrespectfully in the face of those in need, no you dont do this, you wouldnt sit and eat a thanksgiving meal right in the face of a starving family standing outside your window? Or would you? And yes refunds would be made in this type of thing for those who had booked hotels and airflights IF this was rescheduled by the city. Thats what trip insurance is for and anyone who doesnt purchase that is a fool. NO one would be out money. Sorry all I see total greed going on here, nothing else, nothing sadly surprising either, all for the almighty dollar eff human compassion, eff them all right?0
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kris-lopresto/nyc-marathon-sandy_b_2061007.html
screw the marathon.
as a NYC Manhattanite I approve this message. Friggin zombies everywhere and Bloomberg stealing generators from FEMA for the marathon...instead of for the Red Cross or Polling Precincts!0 -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kris-lopresto/nyc-marathon-sandy_b_2061007.html
screw the marathon.
as a NYC Manhattanite I approve this message. Friggin zombies everywhere and Bloomberg stealing generators from FEMA for the marathon...instead of for the Red Cross or Polling Precincts!
Obama needs to step in and put a halt to the generators going to the marathon. Sorry but human basic needs are by far more important.0
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