Are Morningstar, Boca, etc quality foods or junk

concordancia

My partner eats two morning star sausages every day. The pan he cooks them in is ruined because they leave some kind of residue. However, he is healthy as a horse.

I gave them up do to hormonal issues, but I was eating a lot of things with over processed soy at the time, so I guess my advise would be: all things in moderation.

pksd

They are not quality foods, but they are still better option than eating-out at even the healthiest restaurants. There are days, when you just do not have the time to cook anything, let alone make a veggie burger from scratch. So don’t make them your staple, but few times a week it’s just fine. I would take Morningstar sausage patty over a real meat patty any day.

I also think Trader Joes’s meatless products have fewer ingredients than some national brands ( I might have to look into that more carefully though).

watergallagher

morning star is ****in delicious! everything else is ****!

Sarauk2sf

I would eat these products very sparingly..I know they are tempting; as a non-meat eater for the past 15 years its been great to see all the new choices that have become available. However, these 'healthy' alternatives are mostly chemicals and fillers. I get my protein from seafood and beans. If I had to choose, Id eat real meat over soy fake meat any day .

What is exactly wrong with what is in them,

If you do not eat meat - then fish and well, meat, are not alternatives.

Um, yum, ingredients in a MorningStart Veggie Burger really do it for me. Pass the gluten, soy protein isolate (aka hexane washed GMO Montsanto beans) and food coloring, STAT!

But... it's LOW FAT!!! And it resembles food. And boxes are so easy to open. Must be healthy, then. Hey... as long as it fits your macros, you're golden.

Where are you getting low fat from? And I am not sure where the snark is from - you are actually usually a very reasoned poster and I usually enjoy your input on paleo discussions. There is nothing wrong with gluten or soy unless you have a sensitivity to it (and reasonable dosage applies as it should with everything). Also, what is wrong with quorn?

Sarauk2sf

There are better ways to eat vegetarian like using black beans and vegetables and potatoes to make vegetarian burgers or quinoa and things like that.

The protein ratio is much better. Again, what exactly is wrong with them?

dawningr

I prefer the Don Lee Farm Veggie Burgers (you can get at Costco). To me the Morningstar Farms have that weird aftertaste like Crystal Light.

Funsoaps

There are better ways to eat vegetarian like using black beans and vegetables and potatoes to make vegetarian burgers or quinoa and things like that.

The protein ratio is much better. Again, what exactly is wrong with them?

An estrogenic food which mimics estrogen in the body, when you mess with that, cancer can grow, you can develop a thyroid condition and other hormonal diseases which can cause symptoms of hair falling out, bloat, excessive gas, dry skin, little to huge amounts of weight gain, goiters, dry skin, aches and pains and a HUGE number of other issues caused by hormone problems. Soy is not a natural food nor in natural form, meaning heavily processed, someone mentioned hexane, GMO meaning genetically modified, laden with pesticides...I could go on. Plus I cannot support soy which they destroy the rain forests to make this stuff.

I actually have a lot of experience in these types of food, ate it for years and it did a number on m health. I blame the soy in my diet as a big portion to why I now deal with weight and my thyroid condition. I'm obviously more sensitive to it than I had thought, in fact I didn't think I was brain washed into thinking I was being healthy.

aryya

I am veggie, pretty much the only animal product i still use is small amounts of cream and feta cheese. That being said, I try to stay away from 'pre-made vegetarian food' as much as possible, although it isn't always possible, especially when you are trying to hit a protein macro.

For my protein I generally have organic, non-gmo tofu, chick peas, beans, quinoa, Vega shakes, dark green veggies (broccoli has an amazing ratio of carb to protein), seeds and nuts.

I also don't believe that soy is as horrible as people make it out to be. Anything (Well, not anything, but you catch my drift) is bad for you and will give you cancer and mess with your body's systems if you eat enough of it. Eating too much broccoli can even mess with your thyroid (i've literally only read one article that has ever mentioned this, but i'm trying to get a point across lol), and eating too much fish can give you unhealthy mercury levels. Just everything in moderation

I also tend to watch for high sodium in processed things - which unfortunately a majority of processed vegetarian food is really high in sodium.

Sarauk2sf

There are better ways to eat vegetarian like using black beans and vegetables and potatoes to make vegetarian burgers or quinoa and things like that.

The protein ratio is much better. Again, what exactly is wrong with them?

An estrogenic food which mimics estrogen in the body, when you mess with that, cancer can grow, you can develop a thyroid condition and other hormonal diseases which can cause symptoms of hair falling out, bloat, excessive gas, dry skin, little to huge amounts of weight gain, goiters, dry skin, aches and pains and a HUGE number of other issues caused by hormone problems. Soy is not a natural food nor in natural form, meaning heavily processed, someone mentioned hexane, GMO meaning genetically modified, laden with pesticides...I could go on. Plus I cannot support soy which they destroy the rain forests to make this stuff.

I actually have a lot of experience in these types of food, ate it for years and it did a number on m health. I blame the soy in my diet as a big portion to why I now deal with weight and my thyroid condition. I'm obviously more sensitive to it than I had thought, in fact I didn't think I was brain washed into thinking I was being healthy.

It is my understanding that the link between soy and thyroid issues or cancer has not been concluded, However, if you have studies that show otherwise, could you provide as it is an interesting subject.

Extract from the Amercian Cancer Society:

"Bottom line: Even though animal studies have shown mixed effects on breast cancer with soy supplements, studies in humans have not shown harm from eating soy foods. Moderate consumption of soy foods appears safe for both breast cancer survivors and the general population, and may even lower breast cancer risk. Avoid soy supplements until more research is done. So, enjoy your occasional tofu stir-fry or tofu burger - they are unlikely to increase your risk of breast cancer and, on balance, are some of the healthier foods you can eat!"

As always, dosage and context apply. Do I think using soy as your primary food intake is a good idea? No. But then again, I also believe in a balanced diet. I tend to limit my soy intake for that reason.

vanguardfitness

their nuggets gave me the runs years ago. Tasted pretty damn close to chicken though.

concordancia

their nuggets gave me the runs years ago. Tasted pretty damn close to chicken though.

Don't get me started on the corn dogs - they even come on a stick like a proper corn dog. Everything tastes better on a stick.