Eat like a king for breakfast etc...

JoAlberts

So I'm watching The Biggest Loser atm and Bob the trainer guy just said that you should downsize your meals throughout the day.

So have a massive breakfast, normal lunch and a light dinner. Does anyone do this? I have heard something along the lines of Eat like and King at breakfast, nobleman at lunch and peasant for dinner (not the exact words obviously) It makes sense though because you will use your breakfast calories throughout the day....and when I wake up and am instantly ravenous and could eat a shire horse!!

And I am so tired from work at the end of the day I really cba to make dinner, so a sandwich or something would be ideal. The more I type the more I like the idea, however it's soooooo different to what I know. If this is correct, then why haven't people been doing this?

Opinions please?

HealthyGinny

It is actually a good method, a lot of people I know are doing it. It is very good if you can stick to it; for instance if you're ravenous in the morning and not very hungry at night, it'd be perfect for you.

Me, on the contrary, I can't really eat in the morning but I'm really hungry for dinner so I can't really apply that method. The other method is to have a small meal several times a day, which I find easier.

It all depends on your personal preferences and what you can commit to

Mokey41

I don't think it has any effect on weight loss. Your body uses calories all day and night to carry on the functions it needs to. If you wake up ravenous then eat hearty then but that may also be because you ate like a pauper last night and are very hungry. I wake up not hungry at all and can go without food until 11 am or so. I force myself to eat breakfast so the thought of a large meal at 7 am doesn't sound appealing at all to me and I usually exercise after work so having a big dinner is the time I'm hungry.

Eat what your want, when you want as long as it stays in your budget.

Vailara

I've tried it in the past, but I don't think it works well for me. I'm not hungry enough to eat a lot first thing. I could eat a big breakfast by mid to late morning, but by then I'm at work and don't have the opportunity! In the end I've found it easy to build the meal size around social and work eating. I have a small breakfast, a larger midday meal, and the biggest meal in the evening (which is when I cook for other people).

It might be different if I didn't have to cook a meal in the evening.

Acg67

So I'm watching The Biggest Loser atm and Bob the trainer guy just said that you should downsize your meals throughout the day.

So have a massive breakfast, normal lunch and a light dinner. Does anyone do this? I have heard something along the lines of Eat like and King at breakfast, nobleman at lunch and peasant for dinner (not the exact words obviously) It makes sense though because you will use your breakfast calories throughout the day....and when I wake up and am instantly ravenous and could eat a shire horse!!

And I am so tired from work at the end of the day I really cba to make dinner, so a sandwich or something would be ideal. The more I type the more I like the idea, however it's soooooo different to what I know. If this is correct, then why haven't people been doing this?

Opinions please?

Bob the trainer is also a dope, it really doesn't matter. Space out your meals and split your cals however you like, the outcome will be roughly the same assuming same protein and caloric intake

SideSteel

So I'm watching The Biggest Loser atm and Bob the trainer guy just said that you should downsize your meals throughout the day.

So have a massive breakfast, normal lunch and a light dinner. Does anyone do this? I have heard something along the lines of Eat like and King at breakfast, nobleman at lunch and peasant for dinner (not the exact words obviously) It makes sense though because you will use your breakfast calories throughout the day....and when I wake up and am instantly ravenous and could eat a shire horse!!

And I am so tired from work at the end of the day I really cba to make dinner, so a sandwich or something would be ideal. The more I type the more I like the idea, however it's soooooo different to what I know. If this is correct, then why haven't people been doing this?

Opinions please?

Bob the trainer is also a dope, it really doesn't matter. Space out your meals and split your cals however you like, the outcome will be roughly the same assuming same protein and caloric intake

^ This.

Newf77

Yes I have heard the same thing with the thought being that you get your calories in that you are going to burn throughout the day. Eat like a King for breakfast; a Prince at lunch then a Popper at dinner. This was said to me by a medical professioal so I have some faith in it. The key is that you still get your calories.

wimeezer

I sort of follow this, especially since I work out early every morning. As long as I've had enough calories during the day I'm fine with a light dinner.


Everyone is different, so if it works for you, continue with it.

Best wishes on your health journey.

SideSteel

Copying a reply I made in a different thread about avoiding evening calories, since it applies here:

To go into a bit of detail about this idea:


Change in fat stores is the difference between acute fat storage and acute fat oxidation. You're essentially going through periods of fat storage and fat oxidation and the difference between the two determines how much fat you gain or lose. If fat oxidation exceeds fat storage, you lose fat. If fat storage exceeds fat oxidation, you gain fat. Looking at this net difference over the course of several weeks or months is what matters. Looking at what happens overnight, or during a few hours, is very misleading and often results in people making decisions for themselves or their clients that simply isn't necessary.


As it pertains to eating during the day or night, looking at the endpoints for purposes example:


Suppose you eat all your calories during the day and lets further suppose that most of your intake is in the AM and none of it at night. In this example, you are blunting fat oxidation during the day and increasing fat storage during the day. You eat nothing before bed so fat storage goes down and fat oxidation goes up.


Suppose you eat all of your calories at night: Fat storage goes up while you sleep because you've got a gut full of food. Fat oxidation drops. However, during the day (prior to you eating all your food at night) fat oxidation goes up (you're fasted) and fat storage goes down.


The differences in fat loss or fat storage between these two scenarios will be dictated by energy balance (calories in vs calories out).


I would suggest that people choose whatever method gives them the best:


1) Dietary adherence (personal preference)

2) Gym performance


The above two factors matter a GREAT deal.


But the other stuff, like "Oh no I'm eating a carb and then not burning off, I'll get fat!" is complete nonsense and you should ignore it.

neverstray

Yes I have heard the same thing with the thought being that you get your calories in that you are going to burn throughout the day. Eat like a King for breakfast; a Prince at lunch then a Popper at dinner. This was said to me by a medical professioal so I have some faith in it. The key is that you still get your calories.

Lol.

Mguilmot

90% of my days I do it the other way around: smallish breakfast, bigger lunch, huge dinner.
Lost all the weight anyway. So does it really matter? I don't think so. As long as you eat right, it doesn't matter if you eat big at 7 am or 7 pm :-)

californiagirl2012

So I'm watching The Biggest Loser atm and Bob the trainer guy just said that you should downsize your meals throughout the day.

So have a massive breakfast, normal lunch and a light dinner. Does anyone do this? I have heard something along the lines of Eat like and King at breakfast, nobleman at lunch and peasant for dinner (not the exact words obviously) It makes sense though because you will use your breakfast calories throughout the day....and when I wake up and am instantly ravenous and could eat a shire horse!!

And I am so tired from work at the end of the day I really cba to make dinner, so a sandwich or something would be ideal. The more I type the more I like the idea, however it's soooooo different to what I know. If this is correct, then why haven't people been doing this?

Opinions please?

All that matters is calories and personal preference. You can set up your food how ever you like. When I was losing I ate all small meals and stopped anywhere from 3pm-7pm only because I'd had enough calories for the day and lost 40 lbs. I lost the last 17 lbs doing intermittent fasting, eating only one meal at lunchtime some days, and eating normal small meals the other days. Now that I'm maintaining I skip breakfast most of the time and eat all my maintenance calories sometimes all the way up to bedtime.

All that matters is calories. A calorie deficit to lose weight, and a calorie budget to maintain. The budget does not have to be the same every day, you can say have a weekly budget. You can have some high calorie days and some low calorie days, both for losing and for maintaining.

For me it's all about a calorie budget. I had less of a budget available when I was losing weight, more to spend now that I'm maintaining and all the tools I used for weight loss come into play for the rest of my life maintaining.

When you have accumulated excess fat, you have accumulated a debt. It is hard to pay off the debt (you have less calories to spend). If you are sitting next to someone your same gender and height and they are not overweight and you are, they get to eat more than you (have more calories to spend) because they are debt free. You have less calories to spend because you are paying off your debt.

JoAlberts

I'm still watching it and Jillian has also suggested eating low calorie 2 days, 'moderate' calories for 3 days and then slack off at the weekends!

I'm starting to think I should stop listening to them :P

But I think I will try the big breakfast light dinner thing. It makes some kinda sense.

SideSteel

I'm still watching it and Jillian has also suggested eating low calorie 2 days, 'moderate' calories for 3 days and then slack off at the weekends!

I'm starting to think I should stop listening to them :P

But I think I will try the big breakfast light dinner thing. It makes some kinda sense.

I would do the bold part above, immediately.

symkat

I'm not sure it really matters. I've heard eat every 3 to 5 hours and make your meals about the same in calories, fat, carbs and everything at each meal. supposedly that helps your body burn off most everything you eat instead of storing it as fat. obviously you can't eat a whole cake at each meal but if your eating every 3 to 5 hours you shouldn't really be that hungry anyway. this is what I do and It works great for me but everyone is different so try different things until you find what works best for you. Also I stop eating atleast 2 hours before I go to bed. I hope this helps, best of luck on your road to good health.

LuccyH

So I'm watching The Biggest Loser atm and Bob the trainer guy just said that you should downsize your meals throughout the day.

So have a massive breakfast, normal lunch and a light dinner. Does anyone do this? I have heard something along the lines of Eat like and King at breakfast, nobleman at lunch and peasant for dinner (not the exact words obviously) It makes sense though because you will use your breakfast calories throughout the day....and when I wake up and am instantly ravenous and could eat a shire horse!!

And I am so tired from work at the end of the day I really cba to make dinner, so a sandwich or something would be ideal. The more I type the more I like the idea, however it's soooooo different to what I know. If this is correct, then why haven't people been doing this?

Opinions please?

Yeah I know this, we have the same saying in my country and its so true. However I am not always following but trying my best. Breakfast is the most important, you have energy, u feel full and you don't feel so hungry later on.
Ok we are saying like this: Have a breakfast as King, share your lunch with your friend and your dinner share with your enemy.

ClementineGeorg

Me, on the contrary, I can't really eat in the morning but I'm really hungry for dinner so I can't really apply that method. The other method is to have a small meal several times a day, which I find easier.

It all depends on your personal preferences and what you can commit to

Eating in the morning is a habbit.

A couple of years ago, I was the kind of person that would be sick if I would eat in the first hour of waking up... usually I would have eaten 3-4 hours after waking up.
But I started to go more hungry to bed, incorporate bigger and earlier meals and rigth now I could eat the second I wake up.
This really changed my morning mood and energy.

YaGigi

So I'm watching The Biggest Loser atm and Bob the trainer guy just said that you should downsize your meals throughout the day.

So have a massive breakfast, normal lunch and a light dinner. Does anyone do this? I have heard something along the lines of Eat like and King at breakfast, nobleman at lunch and peasant for dinner (not the exact words obviously) It makes sense though because you will use your breakfast calories throughout the day....and when I wake up and am instantly ravenous and could eat a shire horse!!

And I am so tired from work at the end of the day I really cba to make dinner, so a sandwich or something would be ideal. The more I type the more I like the idea, however it's soooooo different to what I know. If this is correct, then why haven't people been doing this?

Opinions please?

In my country we say "eat your breakfast alone, share your lunch with a friend, give your dinner to your enemy".

That's the way people in my country believe that heavy dinner s your biggest health and weight enemy. It's hard to sleep because your stomach is working on processing the dinner. Something light like a yogurt is ok but definitely no meat or pasta or rice and etc.

Actually, the most popular diet we have here is no food after 6 pm. It's the main diet of the ballerinas, gymnasts and other professionals who need to keep their weight under control but still having exta heavy physical activities.
My mom doesn't eat after 6 pm and has been keeping the same weight since she was 16. If I follow the same routine, I tend to lose weight fast and stay fit.

coolraul07

I truly believe that YMMV applies here. In theory, it make a lot of sense. However, I'm in this for the long haul and I know for a fact that eating a large b'fast will lead me to either nausea or lethargy every single time. Personally, I do best with minimal or no breakfast to bank my calories for dinner. Also, I'm usually up for 3-5 hours after dinner so it must last to sleepy time! If I did morning workouts maybe I'd do different, but the vast majority of mine are after 6p so that where I need more cals.

niftyafterfifty

Eat when you're hungry! Everybody is different. My largest meal is dinner; sometimes as late as 10:30 p.m.; it has not adversely affected my weight loss at all.

bsuew

I agree. I eat a heavy protein breakfast every morning! I don't get hungry through out the day when I do this.