My Knee Hurts :(

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My knee is hurting. Started hurting when I was doing the 30ds squats only, now this morning it is just hurting, especially when I need to bend it. I injured this knee as a teenager. 6 months in a splint, 4 times that in physical therapy, I'm terrified of hurting it and not being able to work out. Should I just forgo the squats and do the other moves or find a different workout for now? I love 30DS, and LOVE the results I'm getting from it, I would hate to quit now. Boo :( This sucks.

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  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
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    May I add that the pain is not intolerable. But it is at that kind of warning stage, if you know what I mean.
  • Psychedelicately
    Psychedelicately Posts: 81 Member
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    I'm having the same problem, except from running. Now I feel like I can't run or exercise until it heals and I'm so disappointed about it. I'm anxious to hear more responses, but my sister said you should ice it every night and take a week off or so until it feels better. So I would recommend trying that and then taking it slow when you start back up.
  • ChristyRunStarr
    ChristyRunStarr Posts: 1,600 Member
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    I haven't done 30DS yet but have you tried icing it/heating it? Or even wear a brace for a bit during every day things to give it a bit of support? I'd say give it a couple days of rest before trying to do 30DS again just so you don't hurt it again. Maybe someone else that's done 30DS can give you more insight, sorry!
  • Cindy873
    Cindy873 Posts: 1,165
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    I would forego the squats for a bit. When you do work out, wear a knee brace for extra support.
  • Lize11e
    Lize11e Posts: 419
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    I know exactly what you mean. My doctor has told me not to do squats or really anything that puts a lot of stress on my knees. I don't know your full situation but I had an injury in high school and have had fluid on the left one ever since. Literally, EVER SINCE. I have developed arthritis in that one the worse but I have it in both. It is frustrating because that needs to be strengthened. I would suggest going to see your doctor about it. I see a rheumatologist about mine. Best of luck to you!
  • Tamisha15
    Tamisha15 Posts: 83 Member
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    I have the same problem for both my knees but recently took a week off of some of the exercises that were causing strain to my knees and after I feel great. Once I started back up I made myself aware of my knees and did a modified version of the lunges that give my knees the blues. So if your knees are hurting that bad I would rest for a couple of days or so and give your body a chance to heal. Also, wearing a brace and icing may not be such a bad idea!!!

    I pray that all goes well!!!!
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
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    Ty, and I wish I could tell you the exact situation, lol. But I'm not sure. I just know that I hurt it, there was lots of professional mumbo jumbo talk to the grown ups around me that I ignored. I just remember having to walk around on crutches for almost my entire 10th grade year and being in physical therapy till after I graduated. Something about the tendons under the knee cap, I really have no idea. I will go pick up a brace today though.
  • MinisterTom
    MinisterTom Posts: 108 Member
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    Due to a previous knee injury, I cannot run or do squats. I get a really tight, dull achy pain in my knee if I attempt to do either of those two activities. What I have done with pretty good success is limit those activities at the gym. I may still run, but not for long, more so in interval style training. I have found that walking at 3.5 with an incline of 2.5 will give me the same results (calorie based) as jogging at 4.5. So I do the inclined walk, and every 10 minutes I jog at 4.5 for 2 minutes. If I begin to feel any discomfort, I just continue the walk and omit the running. Squats is a much different thing. I can't do a single one, or even get into the squatted position without some discomfort. I can however do leg presses as long as I don't let the angle of my knee get below about 90. How to fit that into a home workout 90ds, not sure, but the best thing is to listen to your body. Dull aches are common, sharp or stinging pain is a problem.
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
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    Due to a previous knee injury, I cannot run or do squats. I get a really tight, dull achy pain in my knee if I attempt to do either of those two activities. What I have done with pretty good success is limit those activities at the gym. I may still run, but not for long, more so in interval style training. I have found that walking at 3.5 with an incline of 2.5 will give me the same results (calorie based) as jogging at 4.5. So I do the inclined walk, and every 10 minutes I jog at 4.5 for 2 minutes. If I begin to feel any discomfort, I just continue the walk and omit the running. Squats is a much different thing. I can't do a single one, or even get into the squatted position without some discomfort. I can however do leg presses as long as I don't let the angle of my knee get below about 90. How to fit that into a home workout 90ds, not sure, but the best thing is to listen to your body. Dull aches are common, sharp or stinging pain is a problem.

    Thank You, and it is definitely sharp. Not like the ache soreness you get in your muscles from a good workout. I knew it was going to start causing problems when It started popping every time I would do a squat. I know I'm doing them correctly as well. I'm really particular with my form. I think it's just something I'm going to have to not do for a while. Maybe there aren't as many squats in level 2?
  • BrianW69
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    As someone who had (and recovered from) knee surgery a couple of years ago, I recommend taking it easy on the knee for a day or two. Don't ignore it... your body is trying to tell you something! Drink lots of fluids and avoid caffeine and alcohol. Start taking a regular does of fish oil if you're not already. Some Advil can also help to reduce inflammation.

    When you return to (or if you continue doing) the squats, reduce the range of motion. If you don't crouch down as far you will minimize the pressure put on the knee joint. If you're using weight reduce it.

    I hope this helps. Knee pain is not fun!
  • hdjjones
    hdjjones Posts: 130 Member
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    You might consider aquatic exercise for a while. It has helped my knees a great deal. :smile:
  • maryjay52
    maryjay52 Posts: 557 Member
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    i did that last year and invested in a knee brace. you can get them at any sporting goods store. i was able to semi run in a turkey trot using the brace without pain . i dont do well with squats ever so i limit myself to them
  • libbymcbain
    libbymcbain Posts: 206 Member
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    Hello there

    Pretty much in the same boat, and I've been modifying 30 DS with good results. So I have included what I am doing here in detail in case it helps.

    I have an illiotibial band injury from over running ages back and so it has been aggravated by running lately. I have been doing 30 DS on and off for the last two months and the ITB injury has made me cautious. Basically, I have to be really careful with my hip and thigh, so that means no squats either. So, when the leg started playing up, I took a week off and did plenty of rest, ice, compress, elevate until I could feel it calming down. I also massage the affected area gently every day.

    Interesting, the week I took a break and just rested I lost 3 pounds, no problem. I had been ding 30 DS 5 days a week for 2 weeks at that point. People often comment doing 30 DS that they see the real results at the end, when their body catches up. But prior to that and since I have been losing a steady 1lb a week. So I was terrified when I thought I couldn't exercise either, but it worked out ok because I had been doing that thus far. I did do a little bit of free weights on my arm, but froma seated position that week and no more that 15 minutes time. Used weights as heavy as I could manage though.

    Now I stick to level 1 30DS and modify like this:

    Warm up- I do punches rather than jumping jacks, and am very careful with hip and knee circles. the punch combination I do is punch, cross, hook (repeat) and I don't sink down, I go pretty fast with a lot of force behind the punch and twist a lot in the upper body to use as much muscle as I can there. I was doing punch, cross, hook, elbow but found the leg twisting needed to swng my elbow round wasn't exactly helping- wasn't making it worse but was stopping my leg getting better.

    Circuit 1, strength- press ups are fine and I do a modified version of the dumbell row from circuit two as the alternate. I use a heavier dumbell, lean over from the waist (keeping my knees soft but no more bend at knee or hips than just not locking them). I find this works bes t when I brace myself against a piece of furniture (basically shove my knees up against it) so I cannot "Forget " and lean and bend forward more than I intend to.

    Circuit 1 cardio- a combination of punches and a modified jumping jack. Basically, stand on one leg and swing both arms up but only one leg out, do five times each side and then switch. I tend to only do one round of these per cardio circuit as I don't want to do anything that aggravates my leg, but it is nice to get a bit of variety from the punches. I guess you could try doing it only ever standing on your good leg.

    Circuit 1 Abs- no need to modify any abs circuit. When I first started modifying I tried using abs exercises as swaps for strength circuits, it did work well but as my leg got better I have gone back to moves from the strength section.

    Circuit 2 Strength- same as circuit 1
    Circuit 2 Cardio- same as circuit 1
    Circuit 2 Abs- as dvd

    Circuit 3 Strength- 4 sets of chest flies, but with a heavier weight and without a break in the switches or if I want to push myself and keep heart rate up alternate that with push ups, which are the hardest exercise in the whole thing for me.
    Circuit 3 Cardio- as circuit 1
    Circuit 3 Abs- as DVD

    I've found it has really helped to be able to still work out alongside Jillian and the two girls in the DVD and although it probably isn't burning quite as much as the original routine, I'm still in a good pattern. I still do upper body weights 3 times a week as well to supplement and I am looking into lower body exercises that focus on the glutes (strengthening glutes can be one way to avoid repeating ITB injuries) that I can do on the floor from next week. I have an appointment with a physio next week, so I will run those by her before I start doing them. I also do a little bit of yoga (forward bends, down dog, modified sun salutations) to help with flexibility, maybe twice a week for 15 minutes. I have also upped my just general activity a little bit too, enough so that I can think of myself not as sedentary but lightly active. I find I can do short bursts frequently and my leg is fine, rather than long sessions all at once, which really set my leg off.

    Hope this is helpful- thought detail would be helpful, hence the long post!
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
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    Thank You Libby! That is a lot of great info!!
  • chilly1979
    chilly1979 Posts: 24 Member
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    Wow my doc told me something else.
    Squat is good, one of the best things for a knee, when done right. In rehab I did leg press until the weight was enough I could start doing air squats. I did air squats until it was safe to use the bar. Then went up from there.
    He said not going all the way down on squats is worse for your knee because you are stopping in a bad spot. All the way to parallel is best. But if you are using too much weight and don’t have the technique right it is not going to work and you could hurt yourself. And this was for a major injury not just knee soreness.

    This was years ago but I am at it again. I took a fall of about 10 feet and messed my knee up again, snapped the ACL. I different doc gave me the same recommendation. Full range was hard but it has helped me a lot. Knee pain is less now.

    I would say rest until the pain is gone then start back with much lighter weight and don’t push yourself like crazy. Build up slowly and strengthen all those muscles in your knee.
  • n2thenight24
    n2thenight24 Posts: 1,651 Member
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    Wow my doc told me something else.
    Squat is good, one of the best things for a knee, when done right. In rehab I did leg press until the weight was enough I could start doing air squats. I did air squats until it was safe to use the bar. Then went up from there.
    He said not going all the way down on squats is worse for your knee because you are stopping in a bad spot. All the way to parallel is best. But if you are using too much weight and don’t have the technique right it is not going to work and you could hurt yourself. And this was for a major injury not just knee soreness.

    This was years ago but I am at it again. I took a fall of about 10 feet and messed my knee up again, snapped the ACL. I different doc gave me the same recommendation. Full range was hard but it has helped me a lot. Knee pain is less now.

    I would say rest until the pain is gone then start back with much lighter weight and don’t push yourself like crazy. Build up slowly and strengthen all those muscles in your knee.

    Yeah, I tried the modified squats, where you don't go down as far, and it hurt that way too. So I figure it's gonna be all or nothing till I figure out what's wrong. Also, not doing the exercises at all, even if it's because I'm hurt, makes me feel like I'm copping out, or giving up. Which is not a good feeling.
  • chilly1979
    chilly1979 Posts: 24 Member
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    Wow my doc told me something else.
    Squat is good, one of the best things for a knee, when done right. In rehab I did leg press until the weight was enough I could start doing air squats. I did air squats until it was safe to use the bar. Then went up from there.
    He said not going all the way down on squats is worse for your knee because you are stopping in a bad spot. All the way to parallel is best. But if you are using too much weight and don’t have the technique right it is not going to work and you could hurt yourself. And this was for a major injury not just knee soreness.

    This was years ago but I am at it again. I took a fall of about 10 feet and messed my knee up again, snapped the ACL. I different doc gave me the same recommendation. Full range was hard but it has helped me a lot. Knee pain is less now.

    I would say rest until the pain is gone then start back with much lighter weight and don’t push yourself like crazy. Build up slowly and strengthen all those muscles in your knee.

    Yeah, I tried the modified squats, where you don't go down as far, and it hurt that way too. So I figure it's gonna be all or nothing till I figure out what's wrong. Also, not doing the exercises at all, even if it's because I'm hurt, makes me feel like I'm copping out, or giving up. Which is not a good feeling.

    Modified squats are not good for your knee unless you are barely squatting at all.
    I don’t know what this plan you are doing is but if you are going all out in a hard workout before you’re ready it could hurt you. You strengthen your knee more going all the way down. Maybe you can’t do as many reps but it is better for your knee.