Substitute for Whey Protein?
tebcolorado
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My trainer suggested I get whey protein this week but I'm on a no soy, dairy or gluten diet. Do I even need whey protein or is there an alternative? I eat a ton of protein every day as it is. Currently I'm doing weight training (to failure) twice a week (2x upper/ 2x lower alternating).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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If you're already meeting your protein goals there's no need for supplements. Though there are various soy and dairy free protein powders available, like hemp or pea.0
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You don't need whey protein or any protein supplement if you are meeting your protein goal. Protein powder is just meant to help people reach their protein intake if they aren't getting it from food. There is no further benefit.
If you do feel you need more, there are other types of protein powders. Sorry I haven't tried them.0 -
Ok that's what I thought. Every time I see him though he keeps hounding me to get some saying I absolutely need it for results. Thanks for confirming. I think I'll pass.0
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Threadjack: Why do you pay someone to train you if you aren't going to listen to him/her? And why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?0
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Meat is a good one.0
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protein, like carbs are complex energy meaning, what you will get out of whey will not be the same as out of chicken...0
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Why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?
It's upper twice a week and lower twice a week. Not whole body 4x a week.0 -
If you need the extra protein, Jay Robb puts out an egg protein. A bit high in sodium, though.0
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protein, like carbs are complex energy meaning, what you will get out of whey will not be the same as out of chicken...
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There are different types of protein powders available. I believe there's even a vegan one made from Peas.
What do you consider enough protein? Keep in mind the MFP goal is set low to start, especially if you lift weights 4x a week til failure.0 -
protein, like carbs are complex energy meaning, what you will get out of whey will not be the same as out of chicken...
What about milk?0 -
There are different types of protein powders available. I believe there's even a vegan one made from Peas.
What do you consider enough protein? Keep in mind the MFP goal is set low to start, especially if you lift weights 4x a week til failure.
Currently I'm eating around 170 a day.0 -
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A ton of protein is a lot. Just joking! Protocol suggests that you should consume 1 to 1.5 grm of protein per 1 lb of body weight. For example, if you weigh 110 lbs, you should consume 110 to 165 grms of protein per day.
As far as alternatives to Whey, there are hemp protein, brown rice protein and others for people that are vegetarian or vegan.
Look up this site.
www.veganbodybuilding.com/0 -
There are different types of protein powders available. I believe there's even a vegan one made from Peas.
What do you consider enough protein? Keep in mind the MFP goal is set low to start, especially if you lift weights 4x a week til failure.
Currently I'm eating around 170 a day.
EDITED: If you're eating 170g of protein per day you do not need whey. You may need a new trainer.0 -
There are different types of protein powders available. I believe there's even a vegan one made from Peas.
What do you consider enough protein? Keep in mind the MFP goal is set low to start, especially if you lift weights 4x a week til failure.
Currently I'm eating around 170 a day.
EDITED: If you're eating 170g of protein per day you do not need whey. You may need a new trainer.
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I'm just saying that not all protein is the same such as not all carbs are the same. I shall shut up now because I only know so much :drinker:protein, like carbs are complex energy meaning, what you will get out of whey will not be the same as out of chicken...
What about milk?0 -
I'm just saying that not all protein is the same such as not all carbs are the same. I shall shut up now because I only know so much :drinker:protein, like carbs are complex energy meaning, what you will get out of whey will not be the same as out of chicken...
What about milk?
Different types absorb faster and have different amino acid profiles, but for most of the MFP community it doesn't matter.0 -
I'm just saying that not all protein is the same such as not all carbs are the same. I shall shut up now because I only know so much :drinker:protein, like carbs are complex energy meaning, what you will get out of whey will not be the same as out of chicken...
What about milk?
Different types absorb faster and have different amino acid profiles, but for most of the MFP community it doesn't matter.
^^ yeah.. what he said.. exactly0 -
My trainer suggested I get whey protein this week but I'm on a no soy, dairy or gluten diet. Do I even need whey protein or is there an alternative? I eat a ton of protein every day as it is. Currently I'm doing weight training (to failure) twice a week (2x upper/ 2x lower alternating).
Thoughts?
I use hemp protein powder instead of whey protein. It has ALL your essential fatty acids and is one of the few plant-based protein sources that is a complete protein. The ratio of Omega-3 and Omega-6 is also the perfect ratio for human consumption.0 -
There are different types of protein powders available. I believe there's even a vegan one made from Peas.
What do you consider enough protein? Keep in mind the MFP goal is set low to start, especially if you lift weights 4x a week til failure.
Currently I'm eating around 170 a day.
EDITED: If you're eating 170g of protein per day you do not need whey. You may need a new trainer.
Why?0 -
Threadjack: Why do you pay someone to train you if you aren't going to listen to him/her? And why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?
If I were going to pay a trainer, it would be to establish a personalized exercise program, not a diet regimen. But maybe that's just me.0 -
There are different types of protein powders available. I believe there's even a vegan one made from Peas.
What do you consider enough protein? Keep in mind the MFP goal is set low to start, especially if you lift weights 4x a week til failure.
Currently I'm eating around 170 a day.
EDITED: If you're eating 170g of protein per day you do not need whey. You may need a new trainer.
Why?
Because the implication would be that 170g is not enough protein and that you need to add more. The likelihood of that being correct is very, very slim. This would indicate to me that perhaps your trainer isn't up to speed, or even close, on protein needs. Now he MAY be fine as far as training you, I have no idea really -- but if he indeed knows what your protein intake is and he's insisting on whey protein in addition, I just find that alarming.
For a reference point, 170g is sufficient protein intake for me. I'll bet the farm that you require less.0 -
Threadjack: Why do you pay someone to train you if you aren't going to listen to him/her? And why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?
If I were going to pay a trainer, it would be to establish a personalized exercise program, not a diet regimen. But maybe that's just me.
they work hand in hand.. and the fact that he is offering to also be her nutritionist... that is awesome for her... if of course.. he knows what he is talking about...0 -
If a person truly needs a gram per lb of body weight then 170 is too low. I'm trying to learn here. There is a lot of conflicting info.0
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Threadjack: Why do you pay someone to train you if you aren't going to listen to him/her? And why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?
If I were going to pay a trainer, it would be to establish a personalized exercise program, not a diet regimen. But maybe that's just me.
they work hand in hand.. and the fact that he is offering to also be her nutritionist... that is awesome for her... if of course.. he knows what he is talking about...
In many places personal trainers are not allowed to provide nutrition advice. For good reason.
The trainers at my gym do not. They provide a workout plan only. They have certification in personal training, not in nutrition.0 -
Threadjack: Why do you pay someone to train you if you aren't going to listen to him/her? And why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?
If I were going to pay a trainer, it would be to establish a personalized exercise program, not a diet regimen. But maybe that's just me.
they work hand in hand.. and the fact that he is offering to also be her nutritionist... that is awesome for her... if of course.. he knows what he is talking about...
That wouldn't work for me. If I am going to get nutrition advice, I would ask a nutritionist, not a personal trainer. I seriously doubt that most personal trainers have a degree in nutrition.0 -
If a person truly needs a gram per lb of body weight then 170 is too low. I'm trying to learn here. There is a lot of conflicting info.
It's *NOT* per pound of body weight, it's per pound of lean body mass. And I doubt that you have 170 pounds of lean body mass. Mine is around 113 pounds of LBM, so I work toward 90 grams to 117 grams.0 -
Threadjack: Why do you pay someone to train you if you aren't going to listen to him/her? And why does he/she have you training to failure 4x/week?
If I were going to pay a trainer, it would be to establish a personalized exercise program, not a diet regimen. But maybe that's just me.
they work hand in hand.. and the fact that he is offering to also be her nutritionist... that is awesome for her... if of course.. he knows what he is talking about...
In many places personal trainers are not allowed to provide nutrition advice. For good reason.
The trainers at my gym do not. They provide a workout plan only. They have certification in personal training, not in nutrition.
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I'd suggest you take in 1.5g of protein per pound of bodyweight since you are weightlifting0
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