Intermittent Fasters
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I have been using intermittent fasting for almost a month now with some pretty awesome changes. First off, I have so much more energy in the morning, which I would have never thought. Also, I am more committed to exercising after I break my fast, I seem to want to eat less and lastly I am more regular. I was wondering if anyone else with success or difficulty would share their experiences or expertise. I've read up on it but I would like to know more.
Thanks for your time! (=
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Bump. I am researching this..so interested in any comments.0
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My farting has also become intermittent0
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Intermittent fasting is a great approach and works really well with a super busy life because you don't have to stress about getting your meals at 'X' time. I use it because I work full time and the food provided at work is terrible. I can also offer you some info as to why you feel so good in the morning; it's because naturally (via evolution) we have higher cortisol and adrenalin in the morning. This is associated with the times when we were hunter gatherers and we didn't have food stores so we would need energy to go and either gather or hunt for food when fasted. Eating food close to waking up often reduces cortisol and adrenalin levels which is why when you don't you will feel more energetic. This may take time to kick in though as your body will need to adjust to not being fed calories from the word 'go' every-day. There are lots of little things like this that make IF good, but I don't think it is the end all be all of approaches either.
As with any nutritional approach it is really about trial and error and finding what suits your lifestyle and body best. Feel free to message me if your interested in more detail about IF, I should be able to help
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My farting has also become intermittent
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/695972-intermittent-farting0 -
Sorry but I can´t get my head around this. Whatever works for you I s´pose but I can´t see how it´s healthy. I´m sure someone will bite my head off for saying that but it just seems nuts to me0
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Sorry but I can´t get my head around this. Whatever works for you I s´pose but I can´t see how it´s healthy. I´m sure someone will bite my head off for saying that but it just seems nuts to me
For starters, do you have any idea what Intermittent Fasting is?0 -
Intermittent fasting is a great approach and works really well with a super busy life because you don't have to stress about getting your meals at 'X' time. I use it because I work full time and the food provided at work is terrible. I can also offer you some info as to why you feel so good in the morning; it's because naturally (via evolution) we have higher cortisol and adrenalin in the morning. This is associated with the times when we were hunter gatherers and we didn't have food stores so we would need energy to go and either gather or hunt for food when fasted. Eating food close to waking up often reduces cortisol and adrenalin levels which is why when you don't you will feel more energetic. This may take time to kick in though as your body will need to adjust to not being fed calories from the word 'go' every-day. There are lots of little things like this that make IF good, but I don't think it is the end all be all of approaches either.
As with any nutritional approach it is really about trial and error and finding what suits your lifestyle and body best. Feel free to message me if your interested in more detail about IF, I should be able to help
That was all very helpful, thank you. I particularly appreciate the explanation about the feeling better in the morning. That makes a lot of sense. The sources I've read up on suggest doing is a few times a week rather than daily, but I actually feel kind of gross and bloaty on days that I don't wait until the afternoon to break my fast.
As for IF not being the end-all solution, I agree. I was actually hoping that I would have some people who it didn't work out for post in response.0 -
Sorry but I can´t get my head around this. Whatever works for you I s´pose but I can´t see how it´s healthy. I´m sure someone will bite my head off for saying that but it just seems nuts to me
It sounded crazy to me at first, also. Especially considering that I had always attributed my size in high school to the fact that I wouldn't eat all day and then would be so hungry when I got home that I over ate. I was largely inactive, though, where now I am much more active. You do eat, by the way, it is just all in a small period of your day usually organized around your workout schedule. There's more of a trick to it than that, of course, but that is the gist.0 -
Interesting... Bumping again.
By IF are you talking the 500-600 cal twice or three times a week? Or the not eating until 11 ish and eat all calories in 8 hours? I have seen both referred to as IF.0 -
Intermittent fasting is a great approach and works really well with a super busy life because you don't have to stress about getting your meals at 'X' time. I use it because I work full time and the food provided at work is terrible. I can also offer you some info as to why you feel so good in the morning; it's because naturally (via evolution) we have higher cortisol and adrenalin in the morning. This is associated with the times when we were hunter gatherers and we didn't have food stores so we would need energy to go and either gather or hunt for food when fasted. Eating food close to waking up often reduces cortisol and adrenalin levels which is why when you don't you will feel more energetic. This may take time to kick in though as your body will need to adjust to not being fed calories from the word 'go' every-day. There are lots of little things like this that make IF good, but I don't think it is the end all be all of approaches either.
As with any nutritional approach it is really about trial and error and finding what suits your lifestyle and body best. Feel free to message me if your interested in more detail about IF, I should be able to help
That was all very helpful, thank you. I particularly appreciate the explanation about the feeling better in the morning. That makes a lot of sense. The sources I've read up on suggest doing is a few times a week rather than daily, but I actually feel kind of gross and bloaty on days that I don't wait until the afternoon to break my fast.
As for IF not being the end-all solution, I agree. I was actually hoping that I would have some people who it didn't work out for post in response.
I think you might be combining two different schools of thought on IF.
Leangains (www.leangains.com): IF daily (i.e. fast from 9PM-1PM, eat 1M-9PM would be a 16-8 fast (16 hours fasted, 8 hours eating), working out prior to feeding. I IF this way (in either a 14-10 or 16-8) and I LOOOOVE it. I work out in the mornings/early afternoon before my fast is broken and I FEEL better and perform better in the gym. AND, I'm exclusively breastfeeding nmy 5 month old and have had NO issues with supply or fat content in the breastmilk. Awesome.
*ETA: (my 9PM-1PM fasting scenario is just an example.. you do what work for you)
Eatstopeat: done once or twice a week with fasts 24+ hours (with something like 500kcal intake), a day (dinner-->dinner). Yeah this is a pretty basic synopsis because I'm not versed on it and will leave it to those with more experience/knowledge to elaborate.0 -
I AM ALL FOR IT! WORKS FOR ME!, there is a group here on it, you in it???0
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Interesting... Bumping again.
By IF are you talking the 500-600 cal twice or three times a week? Or the not eating until 11 ish and eat all calories in 8 hours? I have seen both referred to as IF.
OH GOD! Eating just 500-600 cals a few times a week is not IF, that's plain starvation! IF is not a diet, it doesn't tell you what to eat or how much, All IF tells you to do is choose a period of between 16-20 Hours where you don't eat. Then during the remaining hours (4-8) you consume your normal macro goals. Basically you have a 'fasted' period and a 'fed period'. As to its origins, it's earlier forms were conceived in books like "The Warrior Diet" and a lot of it's percieved or theoretical benefit harps back to times when we did not have constant food supplies. It works to use our bodies evolutionary mechanics to our advantage by stimulating the fasted and fed states in strategic 24 hour periods. I am not claiming any of this as true fact nor overly endorsing it. I do it on and off when it suits me and it has been a positive tool for me, but I am simply saying this to clarify what it is.0 -
yeh i love starving myself then stuffing my face!0
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Intermittent fasting is a great approach and works really well with a super busy life because you don't have to stress about getting your meals at 'X' time. I use it because I work full time and the food provided at work is terrible. I can also offer you some info as to why you feel so good in the morning; it's because naturally (via evolution) we have higher cortisol and adrenalin in the morning. This is associated with the times when we were hunter gatherers and we didn't have food stores so we would need energy to go and either gather or hunt for food when fasted. Eating food close to waking up often reduces cortisol and adrenalin levels which is why when you don't you will feel more energetic. This may take time to kick in though as your body will need to adjust to not being fed calories from the word 'go' every-day. There are lots of little things like this that make IF good, but I don't think it is the end all be all of approaches either.
As with any nutritional approach it is really about trial and error and finding what suits your lifestyle and body best. Feel free to message me if your interested in more detail about IF, I should be able to help
That was all very helpful, thank you. I particularly appreciate the explanation about the feeling better in the morning. That makes a lot of sense. The sources I've read up on suggest doing is a few times a week rather than daily, but I actually feel kind of gross and bloaty on days that I don't wait until the afternoon to break my fast.
As for IF not being the end-all solution, I agree. I was actually hoping that I would have some people who it didn't work out for post in response.
I think you might be combining two different schools of thought on IF.
Leangains (www.leangains.com): IF daily (i.e. fast from 9PM-1PM, eat 1M-9PM would be a 16-8 fast (16 hours fasted, 8 hours eating), working out prior to feeding. I IF this way (in either a 14-10 or 16-8) and I LOOOOVE it. I work out in the mornings/early afternoon before my fast is broken and I FEEL better and perform better in the gym.
*ETA: (my 9PM-1PM fasting scenario is just an example.. you do what work for you)
Eatstopeat: done once or twice a week with fasts 24+ hours (with something like 500kcal intake), a day (dinner-->dinner). Yeah this is a pretty basic synopsis because I'm not versed on it and will leave it to those with more experience/knowledge to elaborate.
Oh wow, thank you. I have only heard of Leangains. I always do a 16 hour fast and low impact in the morning (yoga/pilates) and then more intense cardio and strength training in between 2 pretty big meals. I love it too. I used to really struggle with late-night snacking and now I hardly ever even think about it.0 -
Yeah I do know about IF. I actually looked into it but as I said whatever works for you and I know this wouldn´t do it for me. I´m not trying to start an argument about it, I just don´t agree. It´s taken me a long time to find what works for me, and honestly i´ve tried all sorts of diets, fads, right way, wrong way. Interesting subject and many opinions i´m sure0
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OH GOD! Eating just 500-600 cals a few times a week is not IF, that's plain starvation!
Actually, it is just another method of Intermittent Fasting. It's just not the leangains approach. Done correctly, just like leangains, it's not starvation. You're still taking in adequate nutrients and adequate total cals and macros over the course of a week.0 -
I AM ALL FOR IT! WORKS FOR ME!, there is a group here on it, you in it???
Thank you for sharing. I am not, I will get on that, thank you. (=0 -
I don't see how skipping breakfast is "unhealthy."0
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Yeah I do know about IF. I actually looked into it but as I said whatever works for you and I know this wouldn´t do it for me. I´m not trying to start an argument about it, I just don´t agree. It´s taken me a long time to find what works for me, and honestly i´ve tried all sorts of diets, fads, right way, wrong way. Interesting subject and many opinions i´m sure
Sure, I can totally get that it might not work for you, but as to your concerns about it being unhealthy, it's no different than any other meal schedule in that, specifically, you are still required to adequately nourish yourself over time, just as you would eating 4 or 6 meals per day or whatever the case may be. Intermitting Fasting is just a different eating schedule.0 -
I like it, I'm much less hungry when I don't eat than when I do.
Unfortunately, I did have hormonal side effects at first (lost period). It came back though, so I'm calling it fine.
I'm doing LG style... loosely, I pretty much just eat when I get hungry. It's almost never before 12 and sometimes not until 3 or 4, then I do late night work outs and eat after that. So I generally stop around 8-11.0 -
IF'er checking in.
The concepts are simple.
The method works.
Got questions? PM me. Maybe I can help. The trolls like to **** on anything that they don't understand or believe.
Otherwise:0 -
Interesting... Bumping again.
By IF are you talking the 500-600 cal twice or three times a week? Or the not eating until 11 ish and eat all calories in 8 hours? I have seen both referred to as IF.
OH GOD! Eating just 500-600 cals a few times a week is not IF, that's plain starvation! IF is not a diet, it doesn't tell you what to eat or how much, All IF tells you to do is choose a period of between 16-20 Hours where you don't eat. Then during the remaining hours (4-8) you consume your normal macro goals. Basically you have a 'fasted' period and a 'fed period'. As to its origins, it's earlier forms were conceived in books like "The Warrior Diet" and a lot of it's percieved or theoretical benefit harps back to times when we did not have constant food supplies. It works to use our bodies evolutionary mechanics to our advantage by stimulating the fasted and fed states in strategic 24 hour periods. I am not claiming any of this as true fact nor overly endorsing it. I do it on and off when it suits me and it has been a positive tool for me, but I am simply saying this to clarify what it is.
EatStopEAt is a different approach: It IS going 24 hours, consuming something like 500kcal, one day each week possibly two depending on the faster) then eating at maintenance for the remainder of the week, creating a caloric deficit for the WEEK, resulting in weight loss. I don't do it, I didn't study it other than quickly reading through a few articles regarding the theories, but it's out there.0 -
I've been using EatStopEat for the past two months. It's great. The first two fasts or so were a bit uncomfortable, but my body QUICKLY got used to it. Now on my fasting days I rarely feel any hunger -- I just feel "normal". I'm pretty sure the "hunger" I thought I was feeling was actually just the habit of eating and some detoxing my body was doing. (Fasting has many benefits, detox included!) My gastrointestinal issues have vanished. I'm losing some weight. I'm sick less than anyone else in my family. The body can heal itself very efficiently when it's not constantly digesting and processing food.
For the vast majority of human history we did not eat every day. So why all the scare about "starvation mode"? If you miss ONE or TWO meals? It's the food and supplement industry in this country.
Guess what, NOBODY makes money when you fast. So our entire consumer society will by definition be stacked against this. But history (and personal experience) will tell a different story: Intermittent fasting is unbelievably healthy and good for your body.0 -
Yeah I do know about IF. I actually looked into it but as I said whatever works for you and I know this wouldn´t do it for me. I´m not trying to start an argument about it, I just don´t agree. It´s taken me a long time to find what works for me, and honestly i´ve tried all sorts of diets, fads, right way, wrong way. Interesting subject and many opinions i´m sure
Sure, I can totally get that it might not work for you, but as to your concerns about it being unhealthy, it's no different than any other meal schedule in that, specifically, you are still required to adequately nourish yourself over time, just as you would eating 4 or 6 meals per day or whatever the case may be. Intermitting Fasting is just a different eating schedule.
THIS. At the end of the day (or week in some cases), it's all about calories in vs caloris out (and subsequent macros).0 -
It's healthy.Sorry but I can´t get my head around this. Whatever works for you I s´pose but I can´t see how it´s healthy. I´m sure someone will bite my head off for saying that but it just seems nuts to me0 -
Interesting... Bumping again.
By IF are you talking the 500-600 cal twice or three times a week? Or the not eating until 11 ish and eat all calories in 8 hours? I have seen both referred to as IF.
OH GOD! Eating just 500-600 cals a few times a week is not IF, that's plain starvation! IF is not a diet, it doesn't tell you what to eat or how much, All IF tells you to do is choose a period of between 16-20 Hours where you don't eat. Then during the remaining hours (4-8) you consume your normal macro goals. Basically you have a 'fasted' period and a 'fed period'. As to its origins, it's earlier forms were conceived in books like "The Warrior Diet" and a lot of it's percieved or theoretical benefit harps back to times when we did not have constant food supplies. It works to use our bodies evolutionary mechanics to our advantage by stimulating the fasted and fed states in strategic 24 hour periods. I am not claiming any of this as true fact nor overly endorsing it. I do it on and off when it suits me and it has been a positive tool for me, but I am simply saying this to clarify what it is.
Got it, thank you for the clarification. The 500 cal a day two times a week is really the same amount of calories becaue you eat more on the re-feed days. Sounds weird I know, but there're several studies out about how it reduces a lot of disease. Which kind of makes sense. Ancestors probably had several periods of not being able to get anything to eat, then kill something and feast time.
I am simply curious at this point, mainly for the health benefits.
Thanks for everyone's input.0 -
OH GOD! Eating just 500-600 cals a few times a week is not IF, that's plain starvation!
Actually, it is just another method of Intermittent Fasting. It's just not the leangains approach. Done correctly, just like leangains, it's not starvation. You're still taking in adequate nutrients and adequate total cals and macros over the course of a week.
Indeed that makes sense. I was referring really to people who simply decide eating almost nothing without balancing their ****. Everyone keeps referring to leangain's, but I have never even heard of that. I guess it is where most people find out about IF, but all of my knowledge is from elsewhere. Anyway, thanks for the stimulating chat!0 -
OH GOD! Eating just 500-600 cals a few times a week is not IF, that's plain starvation!
Actually, it is just another method of Intermittent Fasting. It's just not the leangains approach. Done correctly, just like leangains, it's not starvation. You're still taking in adequate nutrients and adequate total cals and macros over the course of a week.
Ok, so you're saying that: if required maintenance calories daily are equal to 1200 (for seven days a week for a total of 8400), then you fast a couple of times a week for 24+ hours, from dinner to dinner only consuming 500-600 calories at those dinners and make up the rest of the 8400 calories on days where you are not fasting? This would essentially be a more extreme form of calorie cycling, then, right? It would still serve the same purpose of "tricking" the body by evading homeostasis, right?0 -
I wish I could do the lean gains way, but I have to lift/exercise really early in the am. I work 12 hour days shifts. If I wait till lunch to eat that would be 4-5 post work out.0
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My first meal is at 11 am then lunch at 3 pm and dinner at 6pm I don't eat anything after 7. It seems natural to me not "unhealthy"
I think it is unhealthy for me to eat every 2-3 hours I tried that method and it made me feel hungry and fat all the time0
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