is skipping a meal bad or okay?
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This is not a study above.
^ This does reference research (it refers to research but unfortunately doesn't contain it as least from what I could tell), and specifically from the link you provided:
"A review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was no real weight loss advantage to eating six meals a day. Another study, in the British Journal of Nutrition, found no weight loss difference between dieters who ate their calories in three meals daily or six meals a day."0 -
It still does not prove what you are purporting to be correct in the slightest (and actually contradicts it). Why don't you read the articles that I linked that support my assertion, which cite peer reviewed studies - and enjoy.0 -
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Just NEVER skip breakfast! Otherwise... well it's like what happened if you fed the gremlins after midnight.0
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As long as you are getting your calories (and macros) in at some time during the day - when you eat them is not an issue as long as you do not have problems with energy or a medical reason why you would need to eat often. When you eat in the day has no appreciable impact on weight loss.
I disagree respectfully to a certain extent. If you are trying to lose weight, then I say it hurts you. Your body works like a furnace and you need to keep putting wood if the furnace to get it hotter and keep it burning. Your metabolism is the furnace, and what you eat is the wood. Its a simple analogy but it works! Anyone can lose SOME weight just by not eating but is not healthy!
Intra-day meal timing has no impact on your metabolism.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
http://www.leangains.com/2011/04/critique-of-issn-position-stand-on-meal.html
http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#frequency
http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
I can post links as well to support my theory, and have pics to back mine up.
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Bless your heart:flowerforyou:0 -
Didn't your mama ever tell you that breakfast is the most important meal of the day? In all seriousness, I have forced myself to eat breakfast since starting my healthy eating. It jump starts your metabolism for the rest of the day. If you are going to skip a meal, the best one to skip is dinner. I don't like to get up early enough to sit down and have a meal, so I make a smoothie every morning.
In the words of Joe Biden ...Malarky!
I have been skipping breakfast for the past seven weeks and cut 1% body fat and also have seen strength gains...
Like others said..eat when you are hungry, make sure you get your macros, and create a deficit
Starvation mode is extremely overrated..from what i have read you would have to starve yourself for at least 72 hours (not that I recommend that) to have significant negative impact ..(I believe that was the time frame quoted) check out leangains.com if you are interested in reading more..
By quoting Joe Biden, I must instantly assume that everything you are saying is the opposite of reality. That is all.0 -
You've obviously had some good success using the methods you enjoy and can stick with. Good for you. However, what you are talking about is personal preference. Eating breakfast is what you enjoy and helped you not overeat later in the day. Some people aren't hungry in the morning. There really isn't any article you can post that will convince most of us that staying at a calorie deficit, over the course of a day, week, month, year, is going to be more beneficial to the breakfast eater than to one who doesn't eat early in the morning.0 -
Just NEVER skip breakfast! Otherwise... well it's like what happened if you fed the gremlins after midnight.
I still want to know when it's NOT "after midnight"! And no one will tell me!!!0 -
It's not only about calories macros. The way our bodies work are not always connected to numbers nd percentages.
I used to skip food and later started having gallbladder issues. My doctor said one of the main reasons was skipping food and having long period of no eating time during a day.
I was eating very healthy, nonfat natural food, so neither fat, nor diet was the issue. But because of my ok I could eat only once or twice a day, and no snacks.
The gall wouldn't circulate or exit the correct way because there was no food in the stomach. The gall got stuck in the gallbladder causing stones. My stomach acids also started acting bad hurting the walls of the stomach.
I'm sorry if I'm confusing in explanation. English is not my native language and its hard o explain medical processes.0 -
There are about a million things that can cause gallbladder issues and there is absolutely no way to pinpoint what caused a specific person's problem.It's not only about calories macros. The way our bodies work are not always connected to numbers nd percentages.
I used to skip food and later started having gallbladder issues. My doctor said one of the main reasons was skipping food and having long period of no eating time during a day.
I was eating very healthy, nonfat natural food, so neither fat, nor diet was the issue. But because of my ok I could eat only once or twice a day, and no snacks.
The gall wouldn't circulate or exit the correct way because there was no food in the stomach. The gall got stuck in the gallbladder causing stones. My stomach acids also started acting bad hurting the walls of the stomach.
I'm sorry if I'm confusing in explanation. English is not my native language and its hard o explain medical processes.
I just had mine out three weeks ago, so I'm pretty familiar with this issue right now. And one of the things that can cause SERIOUS gallbladder problems is not eating enough fat, by the way.0 -
Life happens and things get in the way. If your habits are generally good, and you usually get normal, regular meals, then one day of a skipped meal will not hurt you. Try not to over eat at the next meal. Do the best you can to make up for it the rest of the day, and then move on to tomorrow.0
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It's not only about calories macros. The way our bodies work are not always connected to numbers nd percentages.
I used to skip food and later started having gallbladder issues. My doctor said one of the main reasons was skipping food and having long period of no eating time during a day.
I was eating very healthy, nonfat natural food, so neither fat, nor diet was the issue. But because of my ok I could eat only once or twice a day, and no snacks.
The gall wouldn't circulate or exit the correct way because there was no food in the stomach. The gall got stuck in the gallbladder causing stones. My stomach acids also started acting bad hurting the walls of the stomach.
I'm sorry if I'm confusing in explanation. English is not my native language and its hard o explain medical processes.
I think the issue was not that you went long periods of not eating but that you ate very low fat or no fat. Your meal needs to contain fat so that bile is released to break down the fat. If no fat is forthcoming the bile will sit in the gallbladder for long periods of time. Some people are just prone to gallstones. Very low calorie diets which are probably low in fat may cause gallstones.0 -
There are about a million things that can cause gallbladder issues and there is absolutely no way to pinpoint what caused a specific person's problem.It's not only about calories macros. The way our bodies work are not always connected to numbers nd percentages.
I used to skip food and later started having gallbladder issues. My doctor said one of the main reasons was skipping food and having long period of no eating time during a day.
I was eating very healthy, nonfat natural food, so neither fat, nor diet was the issue. But because of my ok I could eat only once or twice a day, and no snacks.
The gall wouldn't circulate or exit the correct way because there was no food in the stomach. The gall got stuck in the gallbladder causing stones. My stomach acids also started acting bad hurting the walls of the stomach.
I'm sorry if I'm confusing in explanation. English is not my native language and its hard o explain medical processes.
I just had mine out three weeks ago, so I'm pretty familiar with this issue right now. And one of the things that can cause SERIOUS gallbladder problems is not eating enough fat, by the way.
I'm pretty familiar with the gallbladder problems, thank you very much.My doctors said non regular eating was one of the main reasons. It took me 2 years of treatment and diet to get it all back on track. I needed to have it out but it was in such a bad condition, doctors were afraid it'd break during the surgery. So I was put on medication and restricted diet to calm it down before the surgery. But the treatment went so well, it came back to its original shape and work. It took 2 years of diet thou.
But now I have a healthy gallbladder.
Right now I'm on a diet to lose weight and my dietician put me on 4 times a day meal just because of my gallbladder experience.0 -
There are about a million things that can cause gallbladder issues and there is absolutely no way to pinpoint what caused a specific person's problem.It's not only about calories macros. The way our bodies work are not always connected to numbers nd percentages.
I used to skip food and later started having gallbladder issues. My doctor said one of the main reasons was skipping food and having long period of no eating time during a day.
I was eating very healthy, nonfat natural food, so neither fat, nor diet was the issue. But because of my ok I could eat only once or twice a day, and no snacks.
The gall wouldn't circulate or exit the correct way because there was no food in the stomach. The gall got stuck in the gallbladder causing stones. My stomach acids also started acting bad hurting the walls of the stomach.
I'm sorry if I'm confusing in explanation. English is not my native language and its hard o explain medical processes.
I just had mine out three weeks ago, so I'm pretty familiar with this issue right now. And one of the things that can cause SERIOUS gallbladder problems is not eating enough fat, by the way.
I'm pretty familiar with the gallbladder problems, thank you very much.My doctors said non regular eating was one of the main reasons. It took me 2 years of treatment and diet to get it all back on track. I needed to have it out but it was in such a bad condition, doctors were afraid it'd break during the surgery. So I was put on medication and restricted diet to calm it down before the surgery. But the treatment went so well, it came back to its original shape and work. It took 2 years of diet thou.
But now I have a healthy gallbladder.
Right now I'm on a diet to lose weight and my dietician put me on 4 times a day meal just because of my gallbladder experience.
OK then. :flowerforyou:0 -
It's fine. Eat when you want as long as your calories and macros are in line for the day
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I am sorry, but the PhD researcher from MSNBC/ivillage does not know what she is talking about. There are multiple research articles about it that show late night eating is bad because the body stores them in a different manner.
Just this week there was another scientific article from UPenn about it:
"Dr Satchidananda Panda, the study’s lead author, said that at certain times of day the liver, intestines and muscles are at peak efficiency, while at other times they are ‘sleeping’. He added: ‘Every organ has a clock. Those metabolic cycles are critical.
‘When mice or people eat throughout the day and night, it can throw off those normal metabolic cycles.’
At the end of their study, the mice that ate all day and night had 70 per cent more fatty deposits than the time-restricted group."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2145853/Eating-late-night-DOES-make-fat-researchers-say.html#ixzz2CQhKWzMw
Metabolic cycles are important, that's why people who work night shifts have problem getting pregnant (there are gazillion scientific research articles about it.)
Also, the Sleep Medicine division at BWH that does the research for NASA has also shown that.
"The researchers found that when the participants’ sleep, activity, and meal patterns were out of synch with circadian rhythms for three weeks, their resting metabolic rate decreased dramatically – translating into a yearly weight gain of about 10 pounds. During this same period of sub-optimal sleeping, participants’ blood sugar spiked and remained higher for hours after meals (because of poor insulin secretion by the pancreas), a telltale sign of developing diabetes.
By keeping the participants’ diet and activity levels constant throughout the study, researchers were able to determine that insufficient sleep and sleeping at abnormal times were directly responsible for lowering metabolism and raising blood sugar levels. This suggests that when our sleep schedule is dictated by factors that conflict with our body’s natural inclinations, our health is going to suffer." http://healthhub.brighamandwomens.org/sleep-research-is-the-night-shift-bad-for-your-health
This supports the idea that it is important to eat breakfast. Do not forget that your body has been fasting let's say since midnight, that's 7 hours that it has not been receiving any outside energy.
"UC Irvine researchers have discovered that circadian rhythms – our own body clock – regulate energy levels in cells. The findings have far-reaching implications, from providing greater insights into the bond between the body's day-night patterns and metabolism to creating new ways to treat cancer, diabetes, obesity and a host of related diseases." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090312140840.htm
And another interesting research on timed meals:
"According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm0 -
It's fine. All the talk about keeping your metabolism up with frequent meals is crap. As long as your calories are correct and you get your macros at the end of the day then it's fine.
You will find so much research backing up every argument but it all comes down to what works for you. People will go on about frequent meals and show pictures showing their progress to prove it works but you can see the same kind of progress from people doing stuff like intermittant fasting. I've done frequent meals and more recently skipping breakfast (IF) just trying to find what works best for me. I'd post some research articles on fasting and less frequent meals but you've gotten enough of that on here.
Just don't stress about skipping breakfast. Most of the argument behind not doing it is that people tend to be ravenous later and overeat. As long as your watching your macros and keeping control, your fine.0 -
I always hear about how the caveman ate, how do we know they weren't a bunch of fat *kitten*. Just because they drew stick figures on the walls doesn't mean they were skinny. Just sayin':laugh:0
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I am sorry, but the PhD researcher from MSNBC/ivillage does not know what she is talking about. There are multiple research articles about it that show late night eating is bad because the body stores them in a different manner.
Just this week there was another scientific article from UPenn about it:
"Dr Satchidananda Panda, the study’s lead author, said that at certain times of day the liver, intestines and muscles are at peak efficiency, while at other times they are ‘sleeping’. He added: ‘Every organ has a clock. Those metabolic cycles are critical.
‘When mice or people eat throughout the day and night, it can throw off those normal metabolic cycles.’
At the end of their study, the mice that ate all day and night had 70 per cent more fatty deposits than the time-restricted group."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2145853/Eating-late-night-DOES-make-fat-researchers-say.html#ixzz2CQhKWzMw
Metabolic cycles are important, that's why people who work night shifts have problem getting pregnant (there are gazillion scientific research articles about it.)
Also, the Sleep Medicine division at BWH that does the research for NASA has also shown that.
"The researchers found that when the participants’ sleep, activity, and meal patterns were out of synch with circadian rhythms for three weeks, their resting metabolic rate decreased dramatically – translating into a yearly weight gain of about 10 pounds. During this same period of sub-optimal sleeping, participants’ blood sugar spiked and remained higher for hours after meals (because of poor insulin secretion by the pancreas), a telltale sign of developing diabetes.
By keeping the participants’ diet and activity levels constant throughout the study, researchers were able to determine that insufficient sleep and sleeping at abnormal times were directly responsible for lowering metabolism and raising blood sugar levels. This suggests that when our sleep schedule is dictated by factors that conflict with our body’s natural inclinations, our health is going to suffer." http://healthhub.brighamandwomens.org/sleep-research-is-the-night-shift-bad-for-your-health
This supports the idea that it is important to eat breakfast. Do not forget that your body has been fasting let's say since midnight, that's 7 hours that it has not been receiving any outside energy.
"UC Irvine researchers have discovered that circadian rhythms – our own body clock – regulate energy levels in cells. The findings have far-reaching implications, from providing greater insights into the bond between the body's day-night patterns and metabolism to creating new ways to treat cancer, diabetes, obesity and a host of related diseases." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090312140840.htm
And another interesting research on timed meals:
"According to Prof. Froy, "Our research shows that the timing of food consumption takes precedence over the amount of fat in the diet, leading to improved metabolism and helping to prevent obesity. Improving metabolism through the careful scheduling of meals, without limiting the content of the daily menu, could be used as a therapeutic tool to prevent obesity in humans." http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120912084430.htm
Not sure who you are talking about when you say that he PhD researcher from MSNBC/ivillage does not know what she is talking about" but its a little ironic in any case imo.
Both of these studies mentioned are on rats.
Here are some articles (that I already posted here) that cite peer reviewed studies on humans that say otherwise:
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/meal-frequency-and-energy-balance-research-review.html
http://www.leangains.com/2011/04/critique-of-issn-position-stand-on-meal.html
http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat/#frequency
http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
Here are some actual peer reviewed studies that indicate that meal timing is either irrelevant or in fact it may be beneficial to eat most of your calories in the evening:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19943985
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17483007
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3508745
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9040548
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/214751370 -
Save these until after your work out. The condition of your body post work out finds it practically impossible to store carbohydrates as fat for 60 - 90 minutes. If you've exercises with intensity, again, most on here cannot be found guilty of this, the food will be used to repair and refuel your body so capitalise on this and avoid fat production.
What would constitute as "with intensity". Does a 12 min jogging mile for 15min count, or are we talking about fairly high HR?0 -
That depends - is it breakfast?0
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Growing up I never had breakfast.
We could probably learn something from the other animals in the world. Grazing is for bulking and fattening up. I don't see any harm in skipping a meal. It's a silly comparison, but did you ever see an overweight cheetah successful in hunting?
I second doing whatever works for YOUR body.0 -
It's only a problem if it causes you to over eat. If you can do it and not blow your calorie deficit... it's fine.0
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Powergirl123 wrote: »well when i forget or dont have time i skip breakfast sometimes but then i make up for it at lunch.
so is this bad or good??
any sugestions??
no hatin
It's good.0 -
Meal frequency and meal timing differences have no effect on weight loss when calories are kept the same. In other words, eating 3 meals, 6 meals, 2 meals, or whatever else, when the total daily calories are the same between them will result in the same weight loss.
The only way meal frequency and timing play into things is in terms of compliance to ones calorie goal. If eating frequently helps, do it. If eating less frequently help, do it. If skipping a meal doesn't cause you to go over your calories, it is not a problem.0 -
It's really overall calories that count more than anything.
Now, I swim and am RAVENOUS after my workout, so yeah, breakfast. But I figure unless it causes you to overeat otherwise, eat as many or as few meals a day as suits you.
And Zalli is right. Three meals a day is relatively new. I know medieval and early Renaissance medical tradition called for two (a large dinner around 10 or 11 am and a light supper in the evening) unless one was a laborer. Then you had bread and ale in the morning, dinner at noon and a snack before bed, if you were lucky enough to afford it, or had a good master.0 -
Eat when you're hungry. The starvation mode theory is a myth, and there is no such thing as eating breakfast to "kickstart" your metabolism.0
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