8 hours sleep and still tired.... why?

Sigh, I deliberately got 8 hours sleep last night and the night before and Im still waking up tired. I don't have any sleeping problems like snoring or what-not. I think the fact I'm in the last two weeks of uni is making me more tired. Plus, I stayed up really late on Saturday night.


I just want to wake up feeling refreshed...
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  • alpine1994
    alpine1994 Posts: 1,915 Member
    Exercise regularly! It's very important for sleep. I used to have pretty bad insomnia but getting regular exercise (not just exercising for one day and still feeling tired the next day, gotta do it regularly) changed it all. I went off sleeping pills and feel so much better. I'm not sure why it works. Maybe physically tiring yourself out makes your sleep more restful. Give it a whirl. It's worth not feeling tired all the time right?
  • Hollycat
    Hollycat Posts: 372
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
  • None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
    Hahaha sleep at 5 PM and wake up at 6 AM :happy:
  • Hollycat
    Hollycat Posts: 372
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
    Hahaha sleep at 5 PM and wake up at 6 AM :happy:

    That's what people did before electricity! Insomnia [which is being overtired] wasn't really a common occurrence, like it is in our society nowadays. I've tried to do this in summer. Even then, it's really hard to do. In winter, it's a lot easier. Not that I do it consistently...I DO have a life.

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
  • littlemegzz
    littlemegzz Posts: 292 Member
    @theBrown and Hollycat: lmao, that would be a challenge. It also wont be possible for the next two weeks while I finish up my uni degree.

    @alpine: I am exercising every morning except on sundays. This may also be a factor in me being tired, as my body is out of rhythm having to wake up early to go to the gym/group classes. Hence why I went to bed early the last two days, I am trying to get it into the routine...
  • pdworkman
    pdworkman Posts: 1,342 Member
    Not gonna work when sunset is 4:30 p.m. and sunrise is 8:00 a.m. It's almost right in the summer when sunrise is 5:30 a.m. and sunset is 10:00 p.m.

    Any time you change your routine, expect for it to take a while for your body to adjust. Also, sometimes our body is busy fighting a virus or something like that and we don't even know it. Or you could be stressed about something. Sometimes you just don't know!
  • @theBrown and Hollycat: lmao, that would be a challenge. It also wont be possible for the next two weeks while I finish up my uni degree.

    @alpine: I am exercising every morning except on sundays. This may also be a factor in me being tired, as my body is out of rhythm having to wake up early to go to the gym/group classes. Hence why I went to bed early the last two days, I am trying to get it into the routine...

    Try this site: http://sleepyti.me/

    Just put what time you have to wake up and it'll list the best times to go to sleep
  • swingsintherain
    swingsintherain Posts: 121 Member
    Not everyone needs *exactly* 8 hours- some need more, some need less. Also, having a consistent sleep schedule (going to sleep and rising at the same times, even on weekends) can help a lot.

    If it doesn't sort itself out, you might think of seeing a doctor- it could be something simple like an iron (or vitamin) deficiency.
  • littlemegzz
    littlemegzz Posts: 292 Member
    Awesome, thanks guys. I will keep sticking with it for now, and see how I go after I finish my degree too. It may well be stress from that which just makes me want to sleep.
  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    If you're not getting enough sleep on a regular basis, one night of getting enough isn't going to make much of a difference
  • MelisMusing
    MelisMusing Posts: 421 Member
    I don't know if anyone else has experienced this- but when I don't eat simple carbs (i.e bread, sugar, potatos, ect.) for dinner or in the evening, I wake up feeling well rested and energized the next day. I'm sure there is a scientific reason for this that probably has to do with blood sugars or something...

    Worth a shot-
  • crazyellybean
    crazyellybean Posts: 999 Member
    Have you had your thyroid checked?
  • drmerc
    drmerc Posts: 2,603 Member
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
    Hahaha sleep at 5 PM and wake up at 6 AM :happy:

    That's what people did before electricity! Insomnia [which is being overtired] wasn't really a common occurrence, like it is in our society nowadays. I've tried to do this in summer. Even then, it's really hard to do. In winter, it's a lot easier. Not that I do it consistently...I DO have a life.

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:

    Not according to any history books or old journals I've read

    people frequently woke in the middle of the night in the dark and did things
  • kiraleilani
    kiraleilani Posts: 124 Member
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
    Hahaha sleep at 5 PM and wake up at 6 AM :happy:

    That's what people did before electricity! Insomnia [which is being overtired] wasn't really a common occurrence, like it is in our society nowadays. I've tried to do this in summer. Even then, it's really hard to do. In winter, it's a lot easier. Not that I do it consistently...I DO have a life.

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:

    People were also able to go to bed this early during "olden times" because of the intense physical labor they did every day. Men were out working, women worked all day long in the kitchen, back in the days where mom WAS the washing machine... you get my picture. People worked their bodies much harder back then.
  • Ivian_
    Ivian_ Posts: 276 Member
    I was wondering why getting 8 hours of sleep wasn't cutting it for me until I took a pregnancy test. :laugh: Now, I wonder no more!

    When there was vacancy in my uterus, I'd feel awesome after 7 hours of sleep.
  • kiraleilani
    kiraleilani Posts: 124 Member
    Also, have you had a sleep study? As a nurse, whenever people tell me they get enough hours of sleep but still feel tired, little alarm bells go off screaming, "SLEEP APNEA! SLEEP APNEA!"
  • jlapey
    jlapey Posts: 1,850 Member
    Perhaps you are not eating properly. What is your diet like?
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    It could be many things. One thing I have noticed is for as active as you say you are, you don't seem to eat a lot of calories. Most active women I work with are eating closer to 1800 calories daily. And considering you don't have much to lose, you can't have a large deficit. If you want, post your height, weight and workout routine and I can run the numbers.
  • DrMAvDPhD
    DrMAvDPhD Posts: 2,097 Member
    Eat more. Calculate your BMR, and NET that many calories (ie eat back your exercise calories at least up until that point, if your BMR is 1300, and exercise burns 400 calories, eat 1700). Try that for a few weeks and see if it helps. Too many people on here ignore the signs of undereating.
  • dsjohndrow
    dsjohndrow Posts: 1,820 Member
    I don't know if anyone else has experienced this- but when I don't eat simple carbs (i.e bread, sugar, potatoes, ect.) for dinner or in the evening, I wake up feeling well rested and energized the next day. I'm sure there is a scientific reason for this that probably has to do with blood sugars or something...

    Worth a shot-

    This seems to work for me too.

    Too much exercise can make it hard to sleep, and also eating processed foods that might have a "hangover."

    Getting in good aerobic exercise like running, biking or something similar, seems to really work for me in addition to not eating junk.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:
    Hahaha sleep at 5 PM and wake up at 6 AM :happy:

    Following this advice I would now be going to bed at 2:30pm and getting up at 10 am. In another month, I would just sleep 24 hours a day... I wish my employer would go for that!

    Seriously, the advice is accurate, but just not realistic for our society and for people that live nearer the poles of the earth. Inuit actually followed this advice quite closely; winter was a time to stay close with family, in igloos and tell stories and spring/summer was a time to get food and work one's butt off to be prepared for winter.

    Artificial lights do affect sleep profoundly and so does EMFs. There's lots of info out there on this subject and it's worth considering imo.

    Also, I have discovered that WHAT I EAT or don't eat affects my quality of sleep more than any other single factor.
  • MissJanet55
    MissJanet55 Posts: 457 Member
    I remember always being tired when I was in university. Some people need more than 8 hours, and I am one of them. I'm a 9 hour a night person, and so is my sister.

    That being said, I did learn I was anemic at school. If you really think there is no reason you should be tired, check your iron, B12, and thyroid.

    The other common cause of tiredness is depression.

    Hope you stay well.
  • Akimajuktuq
    Akimajuktuq Posts: 3,037 Member
    Also, have you had a sleep study? As a nurse, whenever people tell me they get enough hours of sleep but still feel tired, little alarm bells go off screaming, "SLEEP APNEA! SLEEP APNEA!"

    I used to have chronic and severe sleep apnea (totally cured by changing my diet) and I definitely could never feel rested no matter how long I "slept". However, good luck with the sleep study; it's more annoying than useful imo. If one has/had a partner in bed then they should know whether you stop breathing in your sleep or not. If you do have sleep apnea, then you may want to consider some lifestyle changes; it's a VERY serious health problem.
  • littlemegzz
    littlemegzz Posts: 292 Member
    Thanks for all your replies guys. I will need to spend a few more days getting into a routine to really work out everything. I also cant wait for the holidays.

    @psulemon - I am 5'8", 89kg. I have a bit to lose still. Im size 18 in clothes. I started working out properly again four weeks ago.

    Monday: 6:15 - 7am Boxing
    Tuesday: lunchtime gym
    Wednesday: 7:30am PT session
    Thursday 7am Gym
    Friday: 6:15am-7am Boxing
    Saturday: 8:30am PT session.
    Sunday: off.

    PS - it does feel great to say I am only 89kg, I have lost 6 kg in the last 4 weeks (roughly).
  • iplayoutside19
    iplayoutside19 Posts: 2,304 Member
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:

    I agree that we don't get enough sleep. But this doesn't make any sense. At my latitude in June you're looking at 9h 25m of sleep. That's probably about right for my wife, and too much for me. But that's in June and I've already allotcated too much time for sleep. Getting on to Winter Soltice time and now I'm looking at 14 and half hours of sleep. Way too much for almost anyone.

    Older societies also took ciestas, as do other societies in the world. I think western culture could benefit from that.
  • Could be alot of things the weather changing, stress, over worked or your diet... Make small steps to change your normal routine and find things to keep your mind calm...

    Hope this helps a little :)
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    None of us get enough sleep. If there were no artificial light, we would go to bed with the moon and get up with the sun. The lure of electric lights keeps us up well past sundown and our daily commute on the hamster wheel of life has us up with the sun anyway. If you really want to get enough sleep, try sleeping as nature designed - sundown is bedtime; sunrise is time to get up. Now there's a challenge!

    Hollycat:flowerforyou:

    Crap - I need to be in bed right now then. It's 4:00 and I'm at work for another hour and a half, but I'm sure my boss won't mind me sleeping here from now on, or at least until it stays light long enough for me to get home.

    I am ALWAYS tired. I can get 5 hours or 11 hours - there is NEVER a point in time when I am not tired. So I've got no advice there.
  • nanainkent
    nanainkent Posts: 350 Member
    You might need more vitamin B12 and D3. They both will make you tired for no apparent reason. And with the winter here less sun to get the D3. either get your labs checked or just start the vitamins. For B12 get the under the tongue ones. For the D3 get the gel caps. I had my labs checked because I was tired with no other reasons and turns out I was very very low. My doc called me at home and told me to go get the vitamins that day. And come in the next day to start weekly injections.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    Thanks for all your replies guys. I will need to spend a few more days getting into a routine to really work out everything. I also cant wait for the holidays.

    @psulemon - I am 5'8", 89kg. I have a bit to lose still. Im size 18 in clothes. I started working out properly again four weeks ago.

    Monday: 6:15 - 7am Boxing
    Tuesday: lunchtime gym
    Wednesday: 7:30am PT session
    Thursday 7am Gym
    Friday: 6:15am-7am Boxing
    Saturday: 8:30am PT session.
    Sunday: off.

    PS - it does feel great to say I am only 89kg, I have lost 6 kg in the last 4 weeks (roughly).

    Based on your stats nd workout routine i would have you eat 1900 calories daily. This includes a deficit over the week so you would not need to eat back exercise calories. Also i generally adjust macros to 35% carbs, 40% protein and 25% fats. Try this for a few weeks. If you are still tired go to the doctor for blood work.
  • pullipgirl
    pullipgirl Posts: 767 Member
    I would get some blood work done and make sure it isn't a vitamin deficiency.